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I'm on to bigger better things...
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On 9/2/2004 Ed Economy
wrote in from
United States
(4.62.nnn.nnn)
Hey,
Everybody your all right. When somebody rips off your ideas then you know you have a great product. I guess I had it coming. The bottom line is the Gravity Economy board has been on the market for a couple years now. It might not be the biggest seller, but everybody who owns one loves it. So I guess this was a good thing. As a longboard pioneer,surfer,skater,shaper, I'm way over due. My design is over 3 years old. If we are to keep with the times so do I. You Know Who can run with my idea and make it his. With my trust in God,my wife,family and friends who's cares I have what I need in life right here, everything else is just that everything else.
Most of you who know me know that I have been selling off my skateboard collection,& VWs. In the near future I buying a new house on the North Shore and starting a new vw business with one of my Hawaiian bros. My skateboard design will only get better with the Hawaiian influence. As a pro skater in the 70's I was inspired by the surf styles of Larry Bertleman, Buttons, Gerry Lopez, to name a few. Sometimes when I skated I would think I was one of my heroes on a wave. That influence has stayed with me all these years. The new Economy boards will me made with the Aloha tradition made with soul,love,and respect. I have some great ideas that I cannot wait to start on. This is my last post on this matter so I can start shaping, Thank You everybody for your support and Gravity for having me ... Adam, without this site longboarding might have been a thing of the past Thank You.
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R & D
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On 9/2/2004 Michael
wrote in from
United States
(64.156.nnn.nnn)
This is the type of R&D that goes into every shape that Gravity makes......
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Crybaby....
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On 9/2/2004 Michael
wrote in from
United States
(64.156.nnn.nnn)
It's not really about making shapes and making your own boards.. We love that, and encourage it. But this is much deeper than that. It's about going to the same manufacturer and taking the same shape that Ed did off the wall and changing the graphic.... Real creative Chris. Way to go!!!.....
-Michael
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On 9/2/2004 cfavero
wrote in from
United States
(69.3.nnn.nnn)
i have been lookin at both boards,given its the same manufacturer,i would say it hits little tto close to home.in fact,its kinda smarmy.cf
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ed e
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On 9/2/2004
cfavero
wrote in from
United States
(69.3.nnn.nnn)
hey ed,i have a few good wheel ideas,but we have to make them bluish green.cf
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Camet Board shapes
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On 9/2/2004
C-Money
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
I don't want to get into the Big Red/Economy controversy, but it brings up a question I've had for a while, hopefully one of the Comet guys has an answer. It kind of relates to the discussion here, I think.
Several years back, right before the O'Shei shape, Comet came out with what i think were their first Bambo/Graphite designs. They had a "Comet Narrow Race" and a "Comet Wide Race." The "Comet Wide Race" was only available for a very brief time, then transformed into the O'Shei shape. I'd hear it was because there was so much similarity to the Santa Cruz Graphite shape that Comet quit making it. My 2 questions are:
1. Is this true about why the "Comet Wide Race" went away so quickly?
2. How many "Comet Wide Races" were distributed? I got one (stiff model) and love it), and wonder how rare it is.
Thanks,
Carl Kincaid
Knucklehead Racing
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Rip-offs
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On 9/2/2004 Ian Comishin
wrote in from
Canada
(67.68.nnn.nnn)
Maybe those changes make his board better than yours.
I have never figured out why people get so defensive about other people marketing similar products. Can't you just take it as a compliment? I've been in the skateboard industry for twelve years now and my board designs are a combination of ever board I've ridden on.
Making a skateboard isn't like writing software, the variations albeit are limitless, they still border on the "trivial" side when it comes to differences. (in terms of manufacturing and performance)
The only way Chris can be accused of ripping someone off, is if he uses their brand name instead of his own. Should he be paying royalties to Sims for his gumballs design, I don't think so.
If his marketing savy or distribution network gets more people across the planet skating boards the way you like them, you should be proud.
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ed economy UK
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On 9/2/2004
jez
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(81.135.nnn.nnn)
Having been a mega ed economy fan for several years and owning a surf/skate shop in the UK... there`s always lots of different brand longboard come and go, but one that still stands out the most and sells the best and my personal favourite board has to be an ED ECONOMY! similar shapes.... different grip designs... lots of new ideas... but the reason behind the success... the name....
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Strike a Pose
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On 9/1/2004
Stevie
wrote in from
United States
(68.4.nnn.nnn)
Ed, you did it before and you can do it again. Hang in there, buddy.
Joe, we're comin to gitcha now.
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Ed E and Ritchie C.
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On 9/1/2004
Joe Iacovelli
wrote in from
United States
(24.2.nnn.nnn)
Richy,
When Cherry Hill opened I was riding a 36 inch Taper Kick. Ed Economy was my hero. I've read Cult of the Longboard like a thousand times. I built my first real longboard after reading Ed's whos hot. I was excited to meet Ed at Morro a couple years ago and so happy when he came home early from Hawaii to start LaCosta this year. It would not be the same without him.
Thanks for being such a nice guy Ed. I know you did a lot to get this slalom scene reved back up. I'm having the time of my life.
Richy - I'm looking at that Hobie ad now. It says you are riding your "Wide Load" and that strikes me funny. You used to be a good looking guy. Must have had a hard life. Sorry.
Joe
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Longboards
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On 9/1/2004 Richy C
wrote in from
United States
(198.81.nnn.nnn)
Comparing a longboard of the 70s to a longboard of now is two things, I actually was one of the first riders of the largest lazer trucks that were featured in a hobie add in 79', before that there were no trucks large enough to warrant the size board Ed has out now! So if someone could have had a longboard in that era it was skinny,like the one I used to see Ed riding at different ditches and skateparks throughout and during the 70s, skaters should have more respect for Ed,Who is one of the first longboarders leading the way for decades later!
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Ed Economy
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On 9/1/2004
Hamm
wrote in from
United States
(199.41.nnn.nnn)
Rooney, what do Turners & slalom have to do with the issue at hand?
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If it was you...
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On 9/1/2004 Ed Economy
wrote in from
United States
(4.62.nnn.nnn)
This has nothing to do with who's board looks like who's. I designed my board my way I shaped it by trial an error. I paid the manufacture to make the template. You know who,went to the manufacture of my board and they just changed a few things, then they were ready to go. If you know who would have made a little effort to try and make it look a little different than mine that would be a different story.
With the help of Brad Strandlund who "designed" the Dreggs super tanker. We tried not to barge on that design. The Dreggs has a flat board and rounded tail and is a great board with its own kind of ride. The economy has a square tail and a kick tail more of a narrow board and its own kind of ride. When I called my manufacture today and said did you make you know who's board (yes) I said it looks just like mine. The reply oh no we changed a few things.
There is no need to take personal jabs and remarks. This is a discussion board about Decks. If it happened to you, I think you would be mad too. Over the last 3 years I gave you know who 3 of my longboards for free. I know the more I post the more (the ones of you who won't put there real names) can talk the talk.
My Idea was to make a perfect longboard that anybody could ride. My ideas have always been about longboarding and keeping people skating & having fun. Anybody can copy someone idea but have a little fun and do a little work making it yours. I guess I will head back to the drawing board to see what I can come with next.
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rip off
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On 9/1/2004 RR
wrote in from
United States
(198.81.nnn.nnn)
Ed youre "longboard" 2001 is almost identical to my Regalado land ski from 7th grade for me.including kick and varnish with sand ,those slalom doods dont buy too many barges do they,I give CC permission to copy MY board did you run out of turners?
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no rip offs pal
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On 9/1/2004 hochi
wrote in from
United States
(66.95.nnn.nnn) (cloaked ip!)
stop whining ya big baby
i made a shape like that once all on my own. lots of people have. shapes like that are all over the place. i never saw yor shape before. if i go cruisin down the street on my tanker you gooing to come out and cry to me that i ripoped you off?
do a better job than the other guy, thats all you can do
and dont be such a friggin crybaby
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rip offs
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On 9/1/2004 more
wrote in from
United States
(198.39.nnn.nnn)
lots of pintails out there, lots of concave pintails out there, plenty of popsicle sticks out there, plenty of nearly identical slalom shapes out there, lots of double action 5" trucks...
LOTS of original designs and designers getting ripped off I guess. Where will it all end?
(get a patent if you are so original)
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Big Red Ripoff
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On 9/1/2004 Lynn
wrote in from
United States
(67.120.nnn.nnn)
Ed,
It is a shame when anyone rips off your ideas. Unfortunately, there is no patent on the shape of a skateboard, and the only repurcussion you can take against Abec 11 is to do what you are doing, to let people know that The Ed Economy deck is the original, every bit as good, and better cause you are the man (ever go to the skateshop lately? Every board looks the same!).
You may, however, be able to take action against the manufacturer. If you paid a tooling charge to have that mold made, then any board pressed in that mold should be yours, or you should be eligible for royalties. I have 7 years of experience in the manufacturing field, and we NEVER used a customer's mold to make another deck, as long as they were still our customer.
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rip-off
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On 9/1/2004 hmmmm
wrote in from
United States
(68.222.nnn.nnn)
guess everyone is ripping off the whoever first started to laminate ply's together too. and double kick-tail boards, and urathane wheels, and standard trucks, and angled risers, and and and and......
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Ed Economy Deck Has Been Ripped Off
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On 9/1/2004 Ed Economy
wrote in from
United States
(4.62.nnn.nnn)
Some people never learn. I have been building and shaping longboard skateboards for over 30 years. With the help of Brad Strandlund and Dale Smith, together we created the perfect longboard. 57" long with a Perfect kick tail. The 1st true longboard with a kick that we created out of cardboard and wedges to get it right. I started in 2000 and finished the ready project in 2001.
Not only did Chris copy my design! He went to the manufacture where my boards are made and had his made.... TAKE OFF AN INCH HERE, ADD AN INCH HERE, CHANGE THIS A LITTLE, THERE WE GO THE PERFECT LONGBOARD. People like this make me sick. Everything I have worked for and have tried to do for skating gone down the drain. A lot of Ed Economy boards are bought by my friends. I hope you have a lot of friends. I was the one who gave you one of my Gravity Boards I guess its my fault.... Who's Next!
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Big Red Ripoff
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On 9/1/2004 Michael
wrote in from
United States
(64.156.nnn.nnn)
OK, OK.... so you remove my posts. All I did was speak the truth... but seriously, don't take my word for it, see for yourself. If you don't think Chris Chaput is ripping of Ed Economy, then I'd love to hear your ideas.... after all, this is a forum for that, right?
Michael
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Big Red Ripoff
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On 9/1/2004
Rob Kakareka
wrote in from
United States
(65.222.nnn.nnn)
Hey Dude Lighten Up!
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Henry's Project[s]
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On 8/31/2004 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(24.53.nnn.nnn)
Henry,e-mail me on Vacumn Bag ideas,or at least check into Roarakit boards.No Press needed,and then those fancy 'shaping tools' can be used for making molds,and adding finishing touches,etc. Oh,and while you're looking at Wood,check out both Walnut and Hickory.You'll find out why these were used in early Skis if you check out their physical properties. (btw,shouldn't this all be under Homemade Boards?)
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ok
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On 8/31/2004 Henry J
wrote in from
United States
(128.237.nnn.nnn)
yeah, i found a place to get vertlam bamboo just like in the comets but i wouldnt want them splitting along the middle cuz i have no way to glass them up with carbon or whatever.
http://www.plyboo.com/plywood.html check that page out
Henry
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Foo Man Chu
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On 8/31/2004 Dave G
wrote in from
United States
(207.69.nnn.nnn)
V Lam is the ONLY way to make it wurk!!!! Bamboo is lovely, but has properties privy to non else!Comet has it dialed in!!! Carbon and glass= class!!!!
Bara, call me!! I got the afternoon off!!!!!!!!!(for a change)
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big slabs of bamboo ?
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On 8/31/2004 Duane
wrote in from
United States
(68.15.nnn.nnn)
Henry, you have to get big slabs of bamboo from big bamboo trees :P No, really, bamboo is always laminated together to make bigger sheets, since it is a tubular grass and a flat piece can be no more than a few inches wide, if that. The bambo cores are laminated together to make up the width, and really need a top and bottom layer of glass or similar or they will split along the length. They ain't got no horti-culture classes at that there fancy school, do they ?
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