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Thinner maybe
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On 9/30/2004
Paipo Jim
wrote in from
United States
(67.164.nnn.nnn)
On 9/30/2004 Hamm wrote:
>DUDE, you must have BIG ASS FEET.......................<
You betcha. Size 13 E. I need to get some thinner sided skate shoes. Even Chucks are too thick. Something along the lines of Keds or PJ Flyers maybe. For you ignorant morons that think skateboarding was invented in southern California, those are the shoes that Vans ripped off their original designs from.
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Old Longboards from water skis
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On 9/30/2004 Ed E
wrote in from
United States
(4.42.nnn.nnn)
Chuck,
Yes that board was cut out of a very thick water ski. In my collection I have 3 water skis boards. Two with clay wheels and one with 1st generation roller sport wheels all with loose ball bearings. In the early days water skis were the best $2.00- $5.00 at the goodwill store. Sometimes in pairs. You made a couple of cuts,mounted trucks & wheels and you were off..
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TeamRider
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On 9/30/2004 EBasil
wrote in from
United States
(63.206.nnn.nnn)
I'll echo the TeamRider as a super-versatile board, and it's a very cool thing to see that board reissued (even if it is a teeny little 30").
I still occasionally ride my last original TeamRider, currently set up as it went into stasis/college duty with GullWing Pro wides with Variflex "Clouds" bushings on Tracker risers and clear blue C-65's.
It's true, they're not very "flex"...although I can flex the board now, it didn't flex much under me until this century. Instead of drilling this one for tail tappers and a nose guard, I used the Canoga Park technique: epoxy tape mixed into a green goo, then formed along the nose and tail to protect it and give a skid surface on the back. It's light and durable --the '78 era nose epoxy is still on my board.
To be honest, I prefer my FibreFlex 44 pintail these days.
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2 Things...
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On 9/30/2004 Chuck
wrote in from
United States
(4.234.nnn.nnn)
1) Ed E...was that longboard made from a waterski? It almost looks v-lam. I made my first laongboard from a solid wood ski, but it broke in a week.
2) I'll second (third, fourth, whatever) recommendations for the FibreFlex Team Rider. Fun board, reminds me of when we use to ride SKATEboards, not pool boards, slalom boards, park boards, ramp boards, ditch boards, sliding boards, etc. Mine is et up with RT-X's and old Turner La Costa's. I think it is a testament to the deck's versatility that it should work with whatever combo you want to set it up with to suit your style.
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longer is better
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On 9/30/2004 Hamm
wrote in from
United States
(199.41.nnn.nnn)
Ed, that board rocks!!!!!!! 1971?!?! that rocks!
On 9/30/2004 Paipo Jim wrote in from 67.164.xxx.xxx: (United States)
"BTW, his longboards all need thin, nicely curved "fenders" over those front cutouts so you don't get sneaker-bite on a tight frontside turn."
DUDE, you must have BIG ASS FEET.......................
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FibreFlex Re-issue
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On 9/30/2004 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(24.53.nnn.nnn)
Chris,I saw your query,and Hugh's answer. I couldn't really think of any cambered kicktail boards that size that didn't have narrow tails,except the Loaded Fish. I darn near tossed the Fibreflex up as an alternative,even with no camber. I was one of those who begged,pleaded with Deb at G+S to bring back these great,versatile,fun,fast boards. Luckily G+S did,unluckily,I had no money when then first re-appeared (and man,I Still want an ACES!). However,I finally got one for myself. Nelson has had one for awhile,and it's been fun watching him figure out just where that board will work. Most Anywhere is where,doing most any speed or style of skating you wish to do. It'll pump thru 6 ft. spaced cones,go bomb hills at 35+,is a challenge but Fun in halfpipes and pools (It's flat,no concave,so edgers are a bit gnarlier to pull off),and is quite able (buy nose/tail guards 1st)as a freestyler,too. The flex is stiff overall,yet you can pump it through turns. The ride is damp on rough tar,which is a bonus if don't have perfect streets. Best set-up,IMHO,is with Tracker RTS 106mm trucks,3/8" [+-] of riser,and Flashbacks (although Dubs,and Shogos get honorable mention). A fun other set-up has been 120mm Seismics (45*F,30*R) and Cambrias or the old Krypto CSi. This deck is an all-time classic,and it's one of the funnest boards. So,put it on the 'short list'.
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Re: Original Longboard
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On 9/30/2004
Paipo Jim
wrote in from
United States
(67.164.nnn.nnn)
I guess I've been skating since about 1958 when the T-bar on my homebuilt "scooter" broke off and I didn't bother to put it back on. So Ed was a proponent of longboarding in the 1970's. So what? He didn't pave my way. As I recall it was Tom Sims who was the big influence back then. I don't care if longboarding was obscure or not, and I don't see where he gets off claiming to somehow "own" design features he didn't invent. Ed should get satisfaction from people buying his boards not by claiming others stole his ideas. BTW, his longboards all need thin, nicely curved "fenders" over those front cutouts so you don't get sneaker-bite on a tight frontside turn.
Abec11 wheels on the other hand, are an innovation to celebrate. So Chris gets my whole-hearted respect and gratitude for that.
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When riding a longboard was fun.
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On 9/30/2004 Ed E
wrote in from
United States
(4.42.nnn.nnn)
Herbn,
Thanks for your support on longboarding. Chris and I let this subject go away. It was about one board. Not the history of longboarding. Not that it matters to most of you, but I was making longboards in the 60's and early 70's. When it was fun. What came 1st the wheel well or the wheel bite? I made this board in 1971 it was 4ft long and 5" wide. It had Sure grip trucks and rubber/clay type roller-skate wheels.
In 1973 I added Roller Sport Stokers so a wheel well was needed to help the wheel bite. In 1975 I added Sims wheels and tracker trucks and the wheel well got bigger, sorta crude but worked. For those of you who support longboarding ride on.
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Original Longboard
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On 9/30/2004
Joe I
wrote in from
United States
(63.87.nnn.nnn)
Jim,
I don't know how long you've been skating, but as a longboard skater from the 70's I would attribute a huge amount of credit to Ed Economy as the foremost proponent of longboarding at that time. Chris Chaput has to be up there too. Both of them were making their own decks at a time when longboarding was totally outside the mainstream.
Regardless of who invented it and who's copying who, these men desrve our respect for paving the way for the thousands of us that roll down the street to a 40"-60" board.
Joe
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Teamrider
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On 9/30/2004 Eric S.
wrote in from
United States
(162.136.nnn.nnn)
Chris, if that reissue FibreFlex board is anything like my 70's Bowlrider (predecessor I believe to the original Teamrider), don't expect much if any flex, despite the name. I do however love my Bowlrider. It is flat with a bent kicktail. Similar in feel to me, and much cheaper, is the Madrid Retro Mini sold as a complete by Gear-Guys for $64.95 delivered. It's a real fun board, always in my trunk.
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Ed Economy copied. (that's who)
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On 9/30/2004
Paipo Jim
wrote in from
United States
(67.164.nnn.nnn)
[QUOTE] herbn wrote: some folks seem to think rgardless of all that if you make a wide board with a tail cut for wheel clearence you copied ed e [/QUOTE]
Yeah, let's see:
Economy didn't invent the longboard.
Economy didn't invent wheel cut-outs (front or rear).
Economy didn't invent wide boards.
Economy didn't invent the surfboard style plan shape.
Laminated boards with wheel-wells were around in the sixties, fer chissakes!
Makes you wonder where the hell he gets off trashing others for ideas he "borrowed" in the first place.
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Help?!?
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On 9/30/2004 chris
wrote in from
United States
(68.98.nnn.nnn)
thanks hugh for the post but i think i may have found a perfect deck the Fibreflex Team Rider i just cant tell if it has any camber but i still think it looks good even if it dosent
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layback
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On 9/30/2004 jake
wrote in from
United States
(152.3.nnn.nnn)
does anyone know anything about Layback Longboards? I am looking for a solid longboard and Laybacks are pretty inexpensive. Any feedback would be great thanks.
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who copied
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On 9/30/2004 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
a while ago there was a bit of colorful banter about wide boards cut for wheel clearence. Most of the defences were about dimensions and materials(constructions) some folks seem to think rgardless of all that if you make a wide board with a tail cut for wheel clearence you copied ed e,well there was a board in 1975 or so ,by a company called aerosmith, the model was "grandprix", and you all "copied" it.
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Brad Edwards Board
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On 9/29/2004
Jack
wrote in from
United States
(24.205.nnn.nnn)
I have a Brad Edwards with Track Six Tracks and Abec 11 No Schoolz. It is a really cool all around board. It is long, so you can do some cool cruising, carving or sliding on it. In addition, it is super responsive even in a pool. I skate it at parks in the pools and the vert bowls all of the time.
I show it on my site:
http://www.solidskate.com/decks8.html
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40" Brad Edwards
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On 9/29/2004 James
wrote in from
United States
(158.136.nnn.nnn)
Im looking into this board from Gravity, mainly to use it for sliding and cruising. Any comments or words of advice for a better board for cruising and lots of sliding?
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flex w/tail
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On 9/29/2004 hugh r
wrote in from
United States
(68.232.nnn.nnn)
chris... the loaded fish deck fits that description... the tail is a glue on wedge (funky looking to my eyeballs, but functional) HR
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Help?!?
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On 9/29/2004 chris
wrote in from
United States
(68.98.nnn.nnn)
anybody know of a super flexy, short (32" or less) deck with alot of camber and a big kicktail? i need something for places i cant take my longboard i was thinking maybe a cosmic 1 but would like something shorter
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longboards
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On 9/29/2004
rory allen
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(193.164.nnn.nnn)
I would just like to point out lushlongboards.com to yall
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nosewalker
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On 9/28/2004 bean-a-reano
wrote in from
United States
(216.89.nnn.nnn)
i have my risers setup with the fat ends towards the middle of the board. This is only for cruising, and i run my trucks super loose with the blue doh dohs (only bushings at local skate shop). I turn the risers and switch bushings for bombing.
65mm noskools. oh and rims save bearings!
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bride
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On 9/28/2004 Rory
wrote in from
United States
(152.42.nnn.nnn)
bean-o:
specifically to you, i was amazed at this guy's turning radius... the weight does suck, but if anything, i think it might add to it's rediculous capabilities of turning on a dime.
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B-Ride
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On 9/28/2004 Rory
wrote in from
United States
(152.42.nnn.nnn)
Hey, thanks guys for the responses, i went over to a buddy of mine's and tried his out. No s#@! the size is huge, and the ride was completely different than the other boards i had been riding, but i liked it enough for a compulsive purchase- hope i won't regret it. But after one day one day of riding, i think i chose correctly... for the time being anyway.
The one thing that i noticed more than on the Castle, Gravity, Sector 9, and a few custom boards i have ridden was the way the back wheels slid out (as if snowboarding) while trucking down a very narrow brick pathway. I then subsequently rode down a nice, steep hill with every expectations that I was going to absolutely eat s#@!, but as it turns out, i was not only fine, i had one of the fastest and most 'fluid' rides i have ever had. - just for reference, it came with 70mm Freeride wheels and RII 180 50 trucks. As i am a greenhorn to this sport, i'm not even sure what it means... but i love it!
thanks again y'all and i feel strongly enough to say that i am enjoying this board... noseriding is sure to follow many diggers, but occupational hazard right?
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Help?
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On 9/28/2004 Adam
wrote in from
Canada
(64.231.nnn.nnn)
Hey guys ,dont hate me for this, but I know nothing about long boarding, and it looks pretty cool so I thought id get into it. I dont know anything about it as I said before so I was wondering what kind of quality im gona get for around $200 Canadian?
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No ka oi
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On 9/28/2004 hugh r
wrote in from
United States
(68.232.nnn.nnn)
ucsbguy,
the no ka oi is THE board that got me back into longboarding... it's an ok ride and performs well enough as a down the street board, however, it's not up to par with other boards that are out there.
The shape is pleasing to the eye and the graphics look nice, but the truck placement seems off to me and the ride/flex/response is pretty uninspiring compared other boards readily available...
... but if you can pick it up cheap, it's worth having... HR
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DH race
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On 9/28/2004 rustyburrito55
wrote in from
United States
(24.194.nnn.nnn)
ive got a RIV with 80mm krypto race cores and randal RIIs. i havent riden it a lot yet because it pouring out but i have a feeling its gonna be awesome. i think im going to wedge it so the trucks are level andnot angled
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