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On 1/10/2000
brian
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speaking of practicing slides..me and my friend thought it would be easier to get the gist of it by riding after it rained. it works pretty good and doesn't tear up the wheels. i can pull crouching 180 slides, but when i try to do a coleman i can't seem to lean back enough or support myself with my hand at all. maybe i have to go faster (we hit tops 20) any help is appreciated.
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On 1/10/2000 Bug
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You know, a really easy way to practice your sliding is to ride a hill with a *little* loose sand on it. Or, (especially where I live) very rough roads give such poor contact even with , like 78 wheels, that they can be slid on. That's if you don't mind the teeth rattling shakes so much. Oh, and always wear pads.
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On 1/10/2000
Pélou
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To see tricks like in surf as snap or cut back, visit www.multimania.com/peloucarve and go in the video section...
Smooth carve and long carve...
Have someone have ever seen a board which ride like a surfboard??
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On 1/10/2000 Herbn
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Cut up tailskids,make slider-gloves
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On 1/10/2000 Herbn
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when sliding to get around a hairpin or to get out of the road(into a driveway) a set of gloves with plastic (uhmw polyethelene) attached to at least the palm ,is highly recommended. carve a tight turn,knowing your wheels are gonna slide you put your hand down on the pavement first,then lean over some more,transfering the weight to the glove,this will make the wheels slide easier, now the practice is balencing the traction of the wheels with the non-traction of the glove ,to slide an arc,getting up is a matter of transfering enough weight back on to the wheels and standing up, how fast your going when you do this is up to your skills and necessities of the terrain it is not a good idea to slide to a stop (kills wheels), Tail drag boy is either a joker and/or has d.o.g.
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On 1/9/2000
hc
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nice to hear all these discussion about sliding techniques. when watching the gravity games, i was very impressed by how some riders were using the foot drag technique where they crouch down to grab the nose of their board with both hand and drag one foot on the ground. this seems even easier and safer compare to sliding but not as quick.
Also i remember that some riders seem to use the crouch for the whole ride down! I remember the commentator saying that Lee Dansie was complaining that this technique should be banned because it's not "stand up".
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On 1/7/2000
Speedy
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I have a 48' Think Joel Tudor with Kryptonics. What's the easyest way to slide that sort of thing? I ride front truck tight. And, can you slide at relatively low speeds? There'e few hills in my area (ok, there's none). And, does anybody know any longboarders in the Fresno area? Any input apreciated,
Speedy
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On 1/7/2000
Cliff Coleman
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Attention Mr. Jay Barr:
You have everyone talking regarding stopping techniques. Since Manu lives in France and may or may not be in the San Francisco area this year. I would like to help straighten out this matter once and for all. That is, is it better to slide, or to skid on the tail of a skateboard to stop.
You say that you can do both and that you have twenty years + of skating experience. You also say that you are an expert. I think that with your experience and mine, about fourty years and counting, that the least that will happen is we will have a great time skating if we can arrange to get together. I'm not sure, but it seems that you are from the San Francisco area? If you can make it to the Berkeley area where the hills are better and less crowded than San Francisco, then please e-mail me to arrange a date to meet. Let's solve this once and for all.
Cliff Coleman
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On 1/7/2000
Zac
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TO Mr. Jay Barr:
Please do not so blatently lie to the members of this page. It's insulting to those of us who know what is going on and is dangerous to the beginers who are trying to learn these techniques. Here is why I do not beleive a word you say:
1. You say that you can stop faster and in more control with your tail sliding technique. Think about this when plastic slides on concrete it is not stable at all. Not to say that urethane skate wheel slides are super stable but they "stick" and slow you much faster than any plastic tail protecter. This will be even more true in wet and sandy conditions. Go out with a skate wheel and a tail protector and slide them on the concrete which slides more easily?
2. Standing straight up at 40mph like Mr Barr claims he does to be in position to "tail slide" puts your center of gravity very high and sets you up for major speed wobbles. While power sliding your center of gravity is very low and stable.
3. During this "tail slide" manuever your base is very small. Only the length from the wheels to the end of the tail. While powersliding your base doesn't change its still as long as it is when your riding. A wider base means more stablility.
4. This is actually a reason why powersliding is safer than your technique. When a powerslide goes bad especially when learnign you are already about as low as you can get so you only have a foot or so to fall. If you caught a rock etc during your technique it is going to pitch you from and almost completely upright position forward onto your face.
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On 1/7/2000
Jamison
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I Put A 1& 3/4"s of risers on my new Sector9 Nose walker and loosend the front truks alot & know I can slide out alot & I can do tiny circles & I only weigh 87 lb's & I am 5'3.Oh yea I need a girl friend.
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On 1/6/2000 A New Guy
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Yes, Mr. Jay Barr. Show us a video, or at least attempt to explain yourself HERE. If you really want to share your wisdom, then share your wisdom!
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On 1/6/2000 Herbn
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cracks,rough,sure no problem,to a point,even in wet conditions I see no real problem, but who cares about skating in the rain? or dirt for that matter.20 years of extreme tail skiding ;wow, who did you ride for, powerpivot,then 360 dome,I feel dorky for beleiving this post enough to ask once again,show me the video!
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On 1/5/2000
jay barr
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Re: Downhill braking.Att: MANU AND RICH,
Thanks the several emails reconfirming my earlier post.
Again, I am only here to contribute my wisdow and 20+ years extreme years of skateboarding.
Those of you that claim to be able to stop at 40 mph are again not getting into detail.
Can you stop on any type of road surface, BUMPY, NOT SMOOTH, WITH EVEN SLIGHT CRACKS?
Will it work on damp to even flooded surfaces?
Of course not! IF so my challenge awaits those serious. Not posers.
MANU, I DON't doubt your ability to stop using a powerslide.
but even pros like myself are reluctant to utlilze it.
Again refer to my questions above.
Again I am an expert in the powerslide and every form of it since the different variation were derived. I rarely use it.
I cant emphasize that it only works WELL AND SAFELY IN CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND SURFACES
TO Rich, I have personally met with ER physicians and have talked with amatuers that have suffered serious injury trying to powerslide at high speeds. You see changing momentum at high speeds EVEN IF DONE BY A PRO can be hazerdous, even if done in optimal conditions. So for you to take an ignorant and cheap shot at me you obviously are a poser.
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On 1/5/2000
juno
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Can anyone tell me how to slide a 48" pintail please to aid the slowing down process. I'm looking for someway of running a huge hill which ends in a busy main road, dig?
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On 1/5/2000 Blah Blah
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Where's Mr. Jay Barr and his "amazing technique" for braking. Take me to another world Mr. Barr! I want to go beyond fun! Explain your skidding technique.
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On 1/4/2000 Gunnar Southswell
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Jens,
That technique is generally referred to as Suicide.
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On 1/4/2000
jens
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What is the technique when you ride your board lying on you chest, with the head first?
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On 1/4/2000 sasa
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Is sliding to slide down with the four wheels?
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On 1/3/2000 DT
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My foot didn't completly come off, i slipped and caught my ankle. so my leg was still connected but the bottom of my foot wasn't touching anything. and when you do a coleman slide your back foot is kind of on its side cause you roll it. so i ended up having neither foot touching, and i would have fallen if i didnt catch my knee or if i didnt have on kneepads. i hope this helps clarify. i'll try and get a photo since a picture is worth a thousand words.
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On 1/3/2000 Herbn
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whew! that one took a couple readings to visualize, you didn't mention ,I still don't know if I got it right.When did you put the foot back on, were you still moving? I've had a few one off spontaneous variations happen to me, the boardless rockgarden colemann comes to mind at the moment.
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On 1/3/2000
DT
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hey tell me if anyone has done this, or knows of other people doing it. it happened on accident, but everyone who saw it was yelling and they said it looked really cool. i was riding down "staples" in carlsbad near the steep part at the end, and my friends were walking back up, so i decided to do a coleman slide. i am regular stance and i the road was starting to bend to the left. i was going about 30 to 35 mph. i started it off normal but accidently slipped my front (left) leg off, but caught my knee on the ground (i was wearing kneepads w/ slide disc), my left arm (which is on the ground) was now behind my head straightened out and my right arm was also straight out up in the air at the same angle as my other arm so they were one long plane. i then regained my balance and got back up. they said it looked like a baseball runner sliding in to 2nd base feet first. it was cool cause i turned an accident-sure wipe out into possibly something new. i'm going to try it again with someone taking a photo, then i'll post it. please tell me if you or others have succesfully completed this slide.
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On 1/1/2000
Brian
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whats an ollie? how do i stop fast and go down steep hills?
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On 1/1/2000
Brian
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how do i stop and go down steep hills?
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On 1/1/2000
Manu
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Hey,
Mr JAY BARR, i don't want to talk proudly about the way we ride and slide in europe (thanks to mr Coleman !)but i can prove you i can
totaly control a powerslide until 40 mph, i'm able to show it to you on a narrow road of 4 m large max.Email me and i 'll tell you when i'll be in Frisco.
All the pros who knows me can confirm i did it many times, and it's also one of the best ways to slowdown in alpine downhill
when you arrive full speed on a hairpin, the difference is you don't stop but stay on your board and just control your slide
to keep enough speed and pass the hairpin.
There exist many ways to slide and control your board, i definitely think it's much better and more efficient than your tail skid plate !
In europe when i did my firsts downhill contests some guys were stopping like you... they were loosing at least 4 second at each corner !
But maybe you're right sir, i'm nothing in sk8boarding to teach anything, while you are (as you said) an expert downhill extreme mega surfer...
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On 1/1/2000
Rich
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DROP KNEE
Came across a rather bizzare explanation of a drop knee carve below. A drop knee carve (in the most common use of the phrase)is not putting your knee on the road for stability etc. It is a term borrowed from longboard surfing to describe the act of dropping the rear knee towards the board and twisting the body in the direction of the carving turn. This effectively puts weight over one rail and thus you turn without having to put your center of balance off the boards centerline. It is also a STYLE thing. My website has a better explanation and pictures of drop knees on a bank as wel as the infamous reverse drop knee variation.
SKIDS
Using your tail skid plate to stop at 40mph is an absolute farce ... as is calling yourself an expert downhill skater. Do you want to kill people getting them to try this way of stopping mate ?
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