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On 1/19/2003 jonnyx
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oh yeah and will someone tell mr goad that there is in fact a world out there
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On 1/19/2003 jonnyx
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hey longy seems you had a far sighted granfather too
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On 1/19/2003
jonnyx
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cliff and law, i was beginning to think that dubya the below average intelligence president did indeed represent his people, if you know what i mean. thanks for proving me wrong. for the others, it is the eve of the war and i cant beleive that ANY communty of any kind does not need to discuss what is happening. if you cannot see that there was in fact a coup d'etat in florida then you are not looking. jeb had promised dubya the state. here is jeb's quote; "its a done deal". dubya has been recorded and documented in the past using the terms "raghead" and "towelhead" to describe arabic people. he is clearly a racist.
groff, we have not voted for war and the public are overwhemingly opposed. witness the riots around USAF Northwood in London today. oh no, i dont suppose theyll put that on CNN , will they?
brady, perhaps you would like to search the net for colloquial Cornish terms meaning "pedantic" and "twat"
wesley, meaningless???? really, come on. would you call the protests on the streets of venezuela this last 2 months meaningless? or the public protests that brought the fall of the other fascist milosevic? or the protests that brought the vote for women? how about when my grandfather was jailed for protesting against(ie beating up) fascists in 1935? the elected government in britain didnt want him doing that so he went to spain, and killed his first fascist in april 1936, ohh thats over 6 years before the US got involved. was that meaningless?
rob foreman, if you really care for the people of other nations why havnt you suggested war on Burma? could it be becuse they sell oil to the US at preferential rates in return for arms and the impunity to carry out genocide against the Karen? the US supports many corrupt regimes throughout the world and has done for years. Chile, for instance, of where Henry Kissinger himself said "this election is far too important to let the people decide"
john airey, i would suggest that war is acceptable in the modern age only when there is CONCENSUS and that means the UN
here is a final thought for you
the USA has never won a war without help from other nations
britain has not lost a major conflict in nearly 950 years
we even fought a hundred year war with the french. we won that in 2 years, but were enjoying winning it so much we dragged it out a bit
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On 1/19/2003
john airey
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cliff, I have a question for you.
personally I am undecided in this iraq thing.
perhaps you can help me make my decision.
my general question to you is:
when is war acceptable?
for instance, when japan attacked pearl harbor, was the
resultant war on japan justified? it seems like the
common answer here is yes, but I'd like your take on it.
I ask because no situation is exactly like another and
I haven't decided where this one falls in the spectrum.
you have drawn parallels between vietnam and iraq in
attempt to argue against war in this situation.
but there are enough differences in this situation for
me to be unconvinced by the analogy. no draft for instance.
If somebody drew parallels between japan and the U.S.,
in 1941 in support of a war,
I would also be unconvinced by the analogy.
The current situation involves a volunteer
military force. There is no draft. The people fighting
'want' to fight. I don't know that I should stop them
is my main predicament. They were reasonable people
yesterday. I assume they are largely reasonable today.
maybe they have good reasons for wanting to whup up
on saddam.
I am also unconvinced by the general accusation that the
us government kills innocents. they admit to killing
some, the argument is over how many. This will continue,
war or no war. seems like a bit of non sequitur.
so that doesn't help me make up my mind either.
I'd be interested in hearing from you when you feel war
is justified and why this particular case does not meet
those criteria.
thanks.
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On 1/19/2003
Rob Foreman
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LAW
Why is Gore not President?
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On 1/19/2003
Rob Foreman
wrote in from
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I have never posted on this forum except to ask for info on trucks, I happen to enjoy a good conversation about history and politics, so here is my 2 cents.
Canada
You are an ally to the US and those that fight for freedom, bombs are always targeted at you, the free world gets to protest because they are.........FREE, explain that to the 100's of thousands that have died at the hands Saddam's dictatorship, I'm sure alot of Iraqis will die because of him.
Cliff Coleman
Nixon did not start the Vietnam war, but he got the US out of it, as far as protesting and dictatorships goes, I refer you to the above statement to Canada. Bush is not a Moron, Bill Clinton was the Moron for not taking Bin Laden when someone offered him to the US.
To my esteemed British friends that share the freedom to preach here, Might I just say God Bless the USA for saving your asses in WWI & II. You ungrateful people are starting to sound like the French.
Dont know what the email has to do with the current topic, but it seems apropriate.
RF
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On 1/19/2003 Canadian Contingent
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Cliff, im with you. There is no need for war. This war in Iraq is not about weapons of mass destruction, if it were, the americans shoud be more concerened with N. Korea. Im not saying they are dangerous but they do have a nuclear program...Iraq sure doesnt. Thanks to America, Iraq cant afford much of anything. Im scared to think of what will happen when America proves that no one else matters and ignores what the UN has to say. The UN should be the bottom line, the decision should be based on the opinions of all of the free world, and looking at all of the anti war demonstrations that just happened all over the world and all over the US, there is not alot of support. I wonder if CNN was objective if there might be more people with their own idea`s and not a earfull of pro war propaganda. Ok, thats enough of a rant. Im sure glad I dont live in the US. No one`s gonna attack me.
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On 1/19/2003
Cliff Coleman
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Wesley,
I disagree with you that the only relevant and meaningful protest is with the vote. Our Constitution allows us the right to protest because it is relevant and important to do so from time to time. Without the right to protest, we would be living under a dictatorship and that is very frightening. To me and many others, this is one of those times. It is time to mobilize and voice our disgust with this state of affairs.. If there were no protesters, we might still be fighting the war in Viet Nam. The voice of the people can and should be heard at all times, not just on election day. The voice of the people changes also. We were not going to war when Bush the moron was elected. Time will tell if he is re-elected or not.
After re-reading my post I do realize that it may have seemed directed only at you. I'm sorry that it seemed so. My message remains the same, but it is directed at all readers of this site.
Skater against war,
Cliff Coleman
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On 1/19/2003
Wesley Tucker
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Cliff,
This is the part of the conversation where you get to go back and re-read my post and explain where I expressed an opinion for or against war with Iraq?
I never said any such thing. My post indicated the futility of well-publicized yet meaningless war protest marches. Maybe NBC thinks they're relevant, but fortunately the Administration doesn't.
But I would like for you to explain why I have to educate myself on an issue I expressed no preference. Just because I'm practical does not make me a martinet. I don't believe I said, "the Republicans won the election and that's a good thing because it means we'll go to war with Iraq."
I said Election Day is the only rally of any sort that has any merit. Maybe as soon as you educate yourself to that pertinent fact of American life you can avoid any tendency for ulcers.
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On 1/19/2003
Michael, Octane Sport
wrote in from
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It saddens me to have to do this, but someone known to most of you for posting on these forums has taken it upon himself to accuse me of being someone else, who has expressed strong politcal views on various NCDSA forums. This person happens to have the same IP numbers coming up as mine: 195.92.xxx.xxx
Most of you realise that these numbers indictae only the first line of an address as it were and as such are not unique to any poster. I happen to subscribe to Freeserve, which is the UK's largest internet provider, so it is understandable why the number is duplicated on other's posts.
The accusation centres around strong political views, which I believe are best kept to other places, not NCDSA. But as this other persons views appear to be Anti-American I have no choice but to make it clear that I did not and would not post any Anti-American rhetoric here. I make a living by importing goods from the US, and as some if not most of the companies I deal with read these forums I would not want any of them thinking that I am posting anything politacal on NCDSA forums. My own political views are my own business and I keep it that way.
I hope you ALL understand. Sincerely, Michael Stride www.octanesport.com
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On 1/19/2003
Cliff Coleman
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I feel like I MUST do my part by speaking out against the war in Iraq. Skateboarders have opinions about this horrible situation and I want everyone to know that Cliff Coleman is against the war! During the Viet Nam era people voted for Nixon as President. He violated the law and eventually had to quit his office as the President. Wesley, the snowball is building momentum and will make a difference, hopefully in the next election. The U.S. government and its new patriot act is sick and I believe it will be overturned. I feel more of a citizen of the planet than a follower of the madness of the U.S. government. I'm with those around the globe that oppose war. If you don't think that the U.S. is killing hundreds of thousands of inocent people around the world, then start reading and educate yourselves.
Sincerely,
Cliff Coleman, Skateboarder against war.
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On 1/19/2003 LAW
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On 1/19/2003 Wesley Tucker wrote in from 152.163.xxx.xxx:
In other words, the majority of the VOTING American people support President Bush and his stance on Iraq. And that's really the only constituency that matters.
WRONG!!!!
The majority of the VOTING American people voted for Gore.
Democratic candidate Al Gore had 50.16 million votes. Republican candidate George W. Bush had 49.82 million votes.
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On 1/19/2003 Michael
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Please SOMEONE explain to Arab that IP addresses arnt unique and that the fact that someone has the same number coming up as me proves nothing. I know...its all been said before...
some people never learn.
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On 1/19/2003
Brady
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Did we get this right?
I mean, all the back stabbing, prodding, and poking is actually happening on the Bulletin Board forum and NOT the slalom forum?
Would it be too much to ask if all the BS posts from all other forums cease to exsist or move over here? Well, probably, but it is a nice thought.
Again, back to you regular scheduled program... ;-)
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On 1/19/2003 Michael
wrote in from
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Arab. I'll accept an apology from you. Then we can get back to how things were. Cheers.
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On 1/19/2003 Michael
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Gosh I'm mad!!!!
What does this mean Arab:
You wrote: ...How many Brits did Hitler Kill anyways? I heard of whole towns male populations from 16 to 33 getting wiped out...
I am truly at a loss to underststand that statement, and as my family was interred in the Second World war in Germany I think I know a tad more than you about this subject. I don't want anyone believing your accustations about me or my opinions. You don't have any idea about my political views so dont even try to guess them.
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On 1/19/2003 longy
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bless you snowie, soon soon......oh and i had salmon sandwiches, Pontefract cake and a nice cup of tea :)
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On 1/19/2003 Michael
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And as many people know in the Uk, I don't actually get on with Johnnyx very well. So confusing us both is really funny. At least I found it funny. I havnt shared your e-mail with ANYONE, but so we can clear hings up, YOU e-mailed me this:..
So it was you that emailed Henry and whined and cried til he stopped the
fund, You f#cking baby! cried about a good thing for a cool kid and cried
because somebody donated money in your name, have some balls Michael, maybe
you can get your mommy to wipe away your tears but I will not. Nothing
worse then a crybaby! I have respect for people that can hang, on the
course or on the forum you cant even do either.
F##k Y##
Arab
I have added the #'s. And I replied that I didnt know what on earth you were talking about.
There you go. Cheers. And I had Scones for tea thankyou very much.
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On 1/19/2003
Michael
wrote in from
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Arab. What on earth are you talking about? Please don't insult me again.
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On 1/19/2003
snoball
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longey wouldn't throw any words around like some simple minded bigot as his lovely Black soul is further beautified by much enlightenment and only a fool who don't know him would think otherwise. ( btw buddah, where's my damned deck?!! ;-)
I'd rather take your word for it my british cuz since I don't have time to run searches on peoples words. Life and all....
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On 1/19/2003 longy
wrote in from
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bless :)
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On 1/19/2003 Brady
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Now THAT`s MORE LIKE IT!! Thankyou ;-)
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On 1/19/2003 longy
wrote in from
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alright then you're boddles and a barmpots as well as a load of yarnyeds with poachpokes fer eggsacks
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On 1/19/2003
Brady
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longy,
Your colloquial usage of that word does not negate it`s more commonly used context. It is a word that SHOULD NOT be used. I did an online search and could not find any referrance to the meaning you portrayed. Even searching for black country parlance words or phrases. And even if it did mean a pot with a hole in it, it means more of the derogative nature to most of us. Please have respect for others and DO NOT use it again.
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On 1/19/2003 longy
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jonnyx is a speed downhiller, stridey is a wiggler...how do you get both mixed up?
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