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call made
On 2/15/2005 Duane wrote in from United States  (68.15.nnn.nnn)

consider it done, John.

 
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Yo Duane D.(R.I.)
On 2/15/2005 John Dillon, Team Fun wrote in from United States  (151.200.nnn.nnn)

Yo Duane! I hope u c this today...tell your bro to call me before tonight's mtg on my cell #443-610-8488........my e-mails to him won't go thru...and we talked just the other day...tell him mtg is at 1104 W36th St, nr Cafe Hon...6 or 6:30pm start..I've heard both times mentioned. Thanks Duane!

Hey Psycholloyd! What's up?? Can u make me one of your cast-iron boards ? That deck was bomproof & Taxi-proof!! Sick!!!!!!!

 
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what he said...
On 2/14/2005 psYch0Lloyd wrote in from United States  (198.160.nnn.nnn)

...scott's cool.

 
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scott
On 2/13/2005 cfavero wrote in from United States  (24.13.nnn.nnn)

chris,that is so cool you hooked up with scott.he is a rad dude and is a very genuine cool person.he rips the bowls.in fact,one day about three four years ago,he gave my youngest (nate)some water at the park,since then,scott is nates fave skater.seriously.the kid adores him.tell him we say hi and cant wait to race.when he told me last summer he was moving back to kill city,i was bummed,but now know he is with the right crew.too cool.cf

 
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puppies
On 2/13/2005 jenna brooks wrote in from Philippines  (210.213.nnn.nnn)

articles and resources about puppies

 
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names calling
On 2/11/2005 ...and yet again wrote in from United States  (198.160.nnn.nnn)

funny story: i out behind the parked cars riding a brand new design which was kept shrouded except while it was under my feet at the first la costa. hackett was hanging around his ride when he came up and asked me to let him check out the deck. he took a run on it and before i could tell him what i called the thing he handed it back to me sayin'...

...now that's wicked.

 
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sorry...
On 2/11/2005 ...me again wrote in from United States  (198.160.nnn.nnn)

you'll need to add a "/" (without the quotes) to get the mantaray link below to work...

...or you can click on the one above.

 
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friggin' amazing
On 2/11/2005 psYch0Lloyd wrote in from United States  (198.160.nnn.nnn)

wow!!! got a call from a friend moments ago and they said that they had some terrible news. they told me to go to the deathbox website and check out their products page. then i was told me to scroll down to the last few decks on the list and click on the one called the... mantaray. i clicked on the picture and lo and behold there it was in front of me. a deck that had a similar nose treatment to mine and their choice in names was utterly amazingly. that anxiety dispelled momentarily though all in all i was quite relieved because i know that this is were the resemblance ended. i look at the release date and realized that the shape must have been floating strong out there in mindstream because we had ours shaped some time in the middle of december... they must have had theirs in the works even before then given their intro date of 1.18.05. gotalovit though things like this can only assure one of the validity of a design. shape wise there are some distinct differences in the deck outlines but the similarities or the name alone had some people wondering if there was a possibility of a hidden camera in our midst. maybe its just a general yet unmentioned concensus naming such a shape as a fish tail, stinger, or a hammer head can denote.

 
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working in wood
On 2/10/2005 psYch0Lloyd wrote in from United States  (198.160.nnn.nnn)

have to admit that this forum has always had a lot of information about deck construction and fabrication techniques, it's always great to see the fruits of somebody elses labor. even though we may sometimes find it hard to agree with someones elses ideas its always nice to keep an open mind and attempt to understand where they are coming from. some may be new to a process or just new to skating for that matter. then there are others might be so far ahead of their time...

...all i can say is that its great to be able to affect and be affected by so many differing points of views.

as a kid i had the opportunity to own a couple of turners, and a few skitch hitchkock decks both of the "surfboard" construction and all were quite unique. both deck designs were convex, though the turner was cambred, and the skitch was rockered with a beam down the center that was notched out for the trucks (dropped but not through and through). the skitch also had slightly turned down rails... i had a total of four of these decks the first having been my favorite. luckily richie carrasco had one at the first moro bay that was a pleasure to behold.

earlier this year i shaped a wood version similar to the skitch but found it too tempting to alter the contour of the deck. riding that thing brought back some memories and reminded me that it demanded a different riding style altogether: a convex rocker deck requires one to "sway" the belly of the deck on a hard turn as the edges do not offer enough resistance to angle the deck on by application of pressure alone. i still have that deck of my own fabrication, while all the original skitches have long faded into the myst of time. i'll remeber them fondly and my wooden one will sit next to an unridable version of a turner cutaway study in wood.

 
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PsyChoLloyD's PhylOsoFFy
On 2/10/2005 Dave G wrote in from United States  (207.69.nnn.nnn)

Alan's insight to ergonomics is wild ass on line/spot on/tits!!! I happen to be a fortunate owner of one of the first Wickeds, that was formed to the footz, like no other deck I have ridden! I still ride it more than any other, regardless of it's lack of secretive material make-up, It hauls ass and for my mere 145 lbs ,flex's purrfect!! I've spoken several times re: his newest design and have had the privelidge of viewing some "spy photos"
I can't wait to realize what Sidlo's sensation has transformed to under my own 2 feets!!! Alan, if you need my fed ex # just call, and I'll have them stop by Monday!!
P.S If you don't mind...DO-NOT pre drill it for me!! I got sum dull dividers!!

 
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Slightly off topic
On 2/9/2005 Chris B wrote in from United States  (68.60.nnn.nnn)

Hey Sidlo...we've got a new guy in the crew up here...a natural, ran our big hill on the first day and couldnt get the smile off his face.... says he knows you and chef from his days at a skateshop in Chitown.
Long hair, rad tribal tattoo over his left arm, various unique others .
Named Scott....
straight up guy.

 
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frank'nbetty!!!
On 2/9/2005 psYch0Lloyd wrote in from United States  (24.148.nnn.nnn)

yer right 'bout me diggin' in gurl. lost control of my email (spamela etc.) i should have that fixed in a jiffy. i'm getting close to a production model now. still in the one-off homemade mode but we're figuring out a way to replicate the shape and some of oltod's input are makin' it in the core of the design (thanks tod). nice to have a tech minded rider to break things down.

been spending a whole lot of time rethinking skateboard deck design and realized that one can't be prejudiced just because something doesn't look or feel quite right. it's really all in the approach. first one must understand that flats, rockers, cambres, in convexes or concaves and combinations thereof provide for different flex scenarios, then one must try to forget all that mumbo jumbo... and realize that it all amounts to nothing. that's why the manta concept equates all these relationships to zero (when board and rider are static). the toughest thing about all this is that it really is too simple.

 
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MantaLloyd
On 2/9/2005 Tod wrote in from United States  (12.148.nnn.nnn)

I've the privilege of possessing psYch0Lloyd's handy work...

"Ergonomic artwork" seems to sum it up best, this equates to stellar board feel...

 
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psycholloyd
On 2/9/2005 betty wrote in from United States  (64.247.nnn.nnn)

Hey man, where have you been? Deep underground like a mad scientist with board configurations and strangely concocted materials bubblin' out of wheel molds?

 
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cc rider
On 2/9/2005 psYch0Lloyd wrote in from United States  (198.160.nnn.nnn)

...damn you're good.

 
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methinks
On 2/9/2005 duane wrote in from United States  (68.15.nnn.nnn)

carbon-carbon composite ?



 
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...per square foot
On 2/9/2005 psYch0Lloyd wrote in from United States  (198.160.nnn.nnn)

what i can tell you about the new medium is that it was first created in 1998 and only became available to the public in 2003. i first came accross the stuff when it was being tested as a component in a ballistic weapon design. i still can't believe that the material really exists.

don't get me wrong, the price is still $1k per sq. ft. to the public, i've been given the mark down price though they don't seem to mide sending me billets for free.

compressive strengths are optional, in the range of 10,000 to 15,000 psi.
heat resistant to combustion when exposed to a 1625°C flame.
both thermal and electrical conductivity are variable so that it can be either conductive or made to act as an insulator.

having the stuff is great, knowing what to do with it is a whole other matter.

 
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psf
On 2/8/2005 herbn wrote in from United States  (152.163.nnn.nnn)

???poly-sulfide-fiber,,,just a guess.

 
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whoever invented the hole knew nothing
On 2/8/2005 psYch0Lloyd wrote in from United States  (198.160.nnn.nnn)

sorry no $600 psf material presently in the proto type composite deck...
...btw, the board rides great now despite bamboo "pilings". i'm in meetings w/the manufacturer of the newly developed material (codename: mysterium). though my initial intention was'nt to use this in decks, i hope to be able to try mysterium on a layup in the near future.

so true fitz, this is the third evolution of the manta shape. each variant commands a different approach to structure. only after skinning the thing did we realize that the wide tail demanded structural consideration (damn thing almost broke off on me too!).

at the present time the assembly process does not allow drilling first. it's funny but i always reference the center line which is totally obscured during the final layup process. too bad that the current set of jigs will not work with the finished product. we've printed out some hole pattern templates but that only made it easier to set up a perfectly straight series of holes on an otherwise crooked center line!!!

that's uncanny, duane. since the manta is a wide deck, i looked at the wicked template and asked myself that very same question recently.

 
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holes
On 2/8/2005 Duane wrote in from United States  (68.15.nnn.nnn)

I drill first through a template, then use those holes to mount my cut pattern. The pattern is slightly over half width, and I simply flip it to cut the other half exactly symmetric. Countersunk holes allow the pattern to be bolted through the truck holes without getting in the way of the router.

Having old patterns around is nice, you can draw off of them much later, or look back and say "what was I thinking ??"

I think psycholloyd goes to the sushi joint around the corner to get said chopsticks, and its the excellent sushi that makes him feel better, not the repair.

 
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drill first
On 2/8/2005 herbn wrote in from United States  (152.163.nnn.nnn)

cut later.

 
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all work and no ride, makes jonny a broke board builder
On 2/8/2005 fitz wrote in from Australia  (203.164.nnn.nnn)

well lloyd, thats just the way it goes. spending long tedious hours dressing up a board thats destined to be ruined.
mind you i spent 3 months riding a board i pressed that was only a roughly cut profile, no grip tape and just 1 coat of interior grade waterbased estapol. after much testing and vigourous jumping on it i was happy. routered the edges, spent many hrs sanding it. 3 coats of sanded back epoxy laquer. dynamite griptape job, and within 2 days of puting on the trucks back on the finished item, i snapped the tail off it!
one thing I make sure i always get right though is the bolt pattern. If you regularly drilling holes, make yourself a jig (guide) to clamp over your new deck. drill follows holes everytime for a perfect pattern.

 
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bamboo chopsticks
On 2/7/2005 herbn wrote in from United States  (205.188.nnn.nnn)

600 a square foot and bamboo chop sticks fill misdrilled holes undetectably?

 
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puffed one...
On 2/7/2005 psYch0Lloyd wrote in from United States  (198.160.nnn.nnn)

...before setting the center line for drilling the latest deck which i've been busy shaping for the last week and a half.

screamed out in horror as the last hole was drilled. noticed right away that the hole set of wholes wandered off to one side. a wrenching scream of terror went out into the distance. throwing the deck to the floor I stomped on it but refrained from stabbing it with the set of deviders after realizing that i neglected to verify the front demark. went to the kitchen and grabbed a set of bamboo chopsticks and filled all 14 holes (hey it's a prototype) so that they were almost totally undetectable and redrilled (only 8 holes this time). prrrrrrrrrrfect.

that mistake cost me over 5 hours of the best riding weather we had all year!

time to roll...

 
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crazy psYch0Lloyd
On 2/7/2005 frank wrote in from United States  (24.170.nnn.nnn)

You better bring me one to luna this year!

 
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