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organic foam
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On 9/15/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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if past posts repeat if you can get the shifty one to post in earthspeak ,it may turn out to be some sort of dehydrated stall bread or something truely bizarre like that.
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Confusified
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On 9/15/2005
Yan0
wrote in from
United States
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Shapeshifter,
I am as ignorant as they come as to what (and how) you are doing, so I hope this dosen't come off as snobby (because truth be known, it sounds fascinating), but what exactly are you trying to achieve? is this new core a search for an organic "earth friendly" foam? or is there some special characteristic that you find foam and wood don't have that you want to culture/combine? Or is it the appeal of a board that is viably alive? It sounds incredible, and I would love to hear as much as you are willing to divulge... I'm at school now so my board progress has slowed to ... well nothing. Its living vicariously for the next few months I suppose....
yan0
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BAST-ion of skate goodness
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On 9/14/2005
gregolsen
wrote in from
Canada
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What a strange coincidence that 'bast' is the general term for the connective tissue in organic materials, like cellulose in wood for instance and applies directly to the organic core research you are doing now. What an alignment of the planets that must have occurred!
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haaaaaay waitaaaminit!!
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On 9/14/2005 shapeshifter
wrote in from
United States
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you put those two words together and you get snake-in-the-grass! watcha trying to say???
austin sorry for calling you anthony in a couple posts down but that's just who you remind me of (don't ask, it doesn't make sense to me either).
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oops...
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On 9/14/2005 shapeshifter
wrote in from
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bom
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bom... bast, yep that's me!
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On 9/14/2005 shapeshifter
wrote in from
United States
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hey now greg, not to worry everyone needs people to provide those checks and balance even us hermits with grandiose schemes of world domination. wow, honeycomb... and aluminum at that. i wouldn't know where to start. that could sideline all my other projects for months. but alas i will have to beg out of this one. though the thought of freezing it in water and then carving out the shape does have an appeal especially now that winter is around the corner.
if not for my current exploration into the bast i would take you up on the offer. please let me know if i can assist in any way though.
anthony, there is very little difference between making a longboard and a pool deck. wood is wood whichever way you wanna chuck it. as greg indicated you should apply yourself to mastering the hand tools to make your the pressing jigs which in turn are used to make the boards. as he said ingenuity is the key if you don't have access to one thing improvise with another. sketch out your ideas on paper then model it in clay or mud (whatever). nothing is set in stone. when you move up to power tools practice shop safety. if you can't make a blank yourself order one from those who do make them or have someone make one for you (it's almost as easy to make two as it is to make one). if you're new to this be sure to test out as many decks as you can so you can find out what you prefer. but what ever you do you need to skate, you'll need to ride a lot.
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Making Boards and not beating up on kids
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On 9/14/2005
Greg Olsen
wrote in from
Canada
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Austin,
Silverfish longboards has a bord building forum. You can see, if you search back in their records, pictures of presses and the molds and the clamping systems needed to hold a deck in compression while the glue dries. Hey if this was easy everyone would do it. It takes tools and ingenuity and most of the people making boards of any technical complexity are adults with money to spend on a hobby thst you as a kid would be unlikely to have. If your parents have a woodshop you are in luck. If you have a lot of ingenuity and gumption you will read as much as you can and figure it out. But you are unlikely to get a primer on building a deck like that from this forum. I think you need to do a lot more searching on the web and build a few basic flat boards out of 1/2" Baltic birch or some other solid hardwoods just to get the feel of woodworking equipment. It doesn't sound like you have any experience with basic handtools or you wouldn't be asking such a broad question. But in the short run, if all you want is a new shortboard deck, you are better off just saving for it and buying it when you can muster up the coin. The tools to build decks will cost you much more than one deck.
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Bombast ain't a mean word....this time:)
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On 9/14/2005
Greg Olsen
wrote in from
Canada
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I too am entertained. Bombast is probably a compliment to a bombast. No doubt the decks are bombalicious as well. Shape, I though you wanted some of that honeycomb?
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Mantas
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On 9/13/2005
T.O.
wrote in from
United States
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I like seafood.....
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how to
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On 9/13/2005
Munchh
wrote in from
European Union
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Click here for link
Austin, click the link, it could be a good place to start?
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how to
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On 9/13/2005 austin
wrote in from
United States
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ok i need help im trying to make a board how do you make it what wood and how do you make the concave like a new style board all i can find is how to make coustom longboards. plz help me how do i make it plz give step by step instructions and if possiable pictures plzz help!!!!!!!!!
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free-toes
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On 9/13/2005
cfav
wrote in from
United States
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greg,i am just one of the lucky few who get to ride shapeshifters boards.this guy is 2% talk,98% action.i have seen these boards win races.we are now getting to do a production run based on one of his shapes.he is fearless in walking away from a great idea when he feels he has a better one.his next design will blow people away.i was merely jesting with my good friend.the cool part is when he finishes one of these creations,he gives the deck away.i think shape would love to tell whats really up,but he is afraid that the idea will get stolen or people wont get it.cf
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bombpops and cheetos
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On 9/13/2005 shapeshifter
wrote in from
United States
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after re-reading my post i think you do have a point there greg, it sounds too much like the writing of a pompous recluse. as if he were someone holed up somewhere conjuring up new techniques in some sort of self imposed seclusion. devoid of care as to what others might think as they try to filter out what is hidden in the text. grand are the words jumping off the page yet there is nobody there to grasp their true meaning (well maybe one or two). sure sounds like the mumblings of a madman when no one is there to talk to but himself yet he is troubled by even his lack of understanding. so the argument goes back and forth as the ideas ebb and flow along with the tide of creativity as it wanes into the ocean of ideas (or it could be just a mild case of schizophrenia). guess i did sound quite bombastic, might have been all caught up in the excitement of finding yet another solution (though i've since found a simpler one), there's just no excuse for that.
hey now tod, aint nothing like three simple ingredients to please the palate. there's two decks sitting on the shelf right now, each just a few steps away from being served. of course they've been there since may. if we're lucky they might get worked on over the winter... unless another stupid idea crops up of course.
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Cheetos.....
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On 9/12/2005
T.O.
wrote in from
United States
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Carbon, and a side of bamboo make for some tasty fare...bon appe'tit
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bombast
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On 9/12/2005
Greg Olsen
wrote in from
Canada
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Some skaters are bombers, some like Shapeshifter are bombasts.
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Hakeemalo, trucks n stuff!
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On 9/12/2005
Munchh
wrote in from
European Union
(86.132.nnn.nnn)
Hey, check out this guy, i'm in the u.k. and i've had randals and kryptonics off of him, cause its cheaper than over here even with the shipping?? Bloody europe!
Anyway, he has an e-bay shop, but is in the states somewhere, he's pretty helpful and i think he does wholesale?
Click here for link
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free toes
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On 9/12/2005 shapeshifter
wrote in from
United States
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margarita mix?
i'll have to disagree with you there kemo sabe... you put de lime in de coconut and mix it all up.
and it's too bad i don't have the extensive resources of of lay's or that of a proctor and gamble chris, otherwise i would be creating some munchable concoctions of my own. i still have pails of the poisonous maidenhair - all you have to do is cook out the cyanide and you have a tasty treat that opens the capilaries.
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shapeshifter
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On 9/12/2005
cfav
wrote in from
United States
(24.13.nnn.nnn)
...i'm talking about breaking things down to its basic molecular components and then reassembling the materials layer by layer from there. i attacked this challenge by engaging myself with the study of both ancient and modern methodologies then attempting to bridge the gap in between. it took a while and several attempts to successfully create a viable product which could sufficiently replace the foam component of the modern deck. what i came up with was a core that seemed as light as polyurethane foam (unverified) but had a grain structure more consistent than wood. compound fermentation provided bacterial interaction which prepped the matrix and later added enhanced proteins for better adhesion. the bacteria's soy based diet created less foam than with hemoglobin (animal blood) but no animals were harmed in this experiment.
just when i thought i was done i encountered a difficult impasse where the core which i had made, though very stiff, was very porous and would soak up liquids (including resins) like a sponge. this could have detrimental effects on the final weight of the product. my proposed solution is to intermingle bioplastic fibers within the outer strata of the core component so that i can later introduce a solvent (that's only effective to these fibers). i am hoping it would act as a liquefy agent infusing the bioplastic material within the strata, then quickly dissipating as the newly formed biocomposite creates a hermetic seal around the inner core. i am counting on the solvent to dissipate quickly limiting the absorption into the core and shortening the drying time for this process.
WHATS HE IS SAYING IS THAT WE ARE NOW RIDING BOARDS THAT ADHERE TO THE SAME HIGH TECH PROCESS'THAT THEY USE TO MAKE PRINGLES AND CHEETOS.CF
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Biocomposites
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On 9/12/2005 Chief Red Beef
wrote in from
United States
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Yea, I tried that too.
Did you try adding Margarita mix?
That's what I did.
Came out nice.
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biocomposites 101
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On 9/12/2005 shapeshifter
wrote in from
United States
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with the success of last year's goal of creating and testing a hollow-core deck structure i recently decided to attempt making a cored deck totally from scratch...
...i'm talking about breaking things down to its basic molecular components and then reassembling the materials layer by layer from there. i attacked this challenge by engaging myself with the study of both ancient and modern methodologies then attempting to bridge the gap in between. it took a while and several attempts to successfully create a viable product which could sufficiently replace the foam component of the modern deck. what i came up with was a core that seemed as light as polyurethane foam (unverified) but had a grain structure more consistent than wood. compound fermentation provided bacterial interaction which prepped the matrix and later added enhanced proteins for better adhesion. the bacteria's soy based diet created less foam than with hemoglobin (animal blood) but no animals were harmed in this experiment.
just when i thought i was done i encountered a difficult impasse where the core which i had made, though very stiff, was very porous and would soak up liquids (including resins) like a sponge. this could have detrimental effects on the final weight of the product. my proposed solution is to intermingle bioplastic fibers within the outer strata of the core component so that i can later introduce a solvent (that's only effective to these fibers). i am hoping it would act as a liquefy agent infusing the bioplastic material within the strata, then quickly dissipating as the newly formed biocomposite creates a hermetic seal around the inner core. i am counting on the solvent to dissipate quickly limiting the absorption into the core and shortening the drying time for this process.
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Wholesale Trucks Wheels and Hardware
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On 9/12/2005 Hakeemalo
wrote in from
United States
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Would anyone know anything about purchasing wholesale carving wheels and trucks?
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roarockit review
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On 9/11/2005 shapeshifter
wrote in from
United States
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hugh regalado has a pretty good revue on the roarockit longboard kit.
here's another one of hugh's review, this time on the roarockit short board kit.
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Looks like Ted is the man.
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On 9/11/2005
Munchh
wrote in from
European Union
(86.132.nnn.nnn)
Yeah thanks I found it, I have e-mailed Ted.
But it would be nice to hear from people who have used the system, other than the guy who sells it and if its a U.K. distributor you need, lets talk shop? Cheers, Munchh.
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Ted you need a Euro Distributor
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On 9/11/2005
Greg Olsen
wrote in from
Canada
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Looks like your empire could expand to to the EU Ted. Go for it.
Munchh, the fellow who makes it, Ted, posts here regularly. One of his posts is just down tha page a bit and is titled:
New Veneer shipment in
Email him
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Roarockit thin air vacuum press kit!
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On 9/11/2005
Munchh
wrote in from
European Union
(86.132.nnn.nnn)
Has anybody out there used this product and if so was it any good? There are no suppliers in the U.K. so it makes it quite expensive, withiut knowing how good it really is? Any thoughts. Munchh.
Click here for link
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