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Todd...Tiger Maple
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On 2/24/2006
Ted
wrote in from
Canada
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Hey! if you can get tiger maple locally start building! The maple is probably kiln dried as your friend sells it to furniture builders. He probably has a whooping big bandsaw that could re-saw it to 1/8" or less. 1/8 or 1/6 Canadian hard maple makes great decks. Baltic birch is also works for building good decks. Because Baltic Birch is already a laminate it will not take bends like 1/16 maple veneer. If your only choice is baltic Birch find the 1/8 stuff. The more layers of veneer that you actually bend and glue together will result in a stronger deck.
Most deckbuilders I know buy baltic because it is accessable and cheap. It will make a great deck but if you have a backyard of a natural resource and the will to go out and cut it off a log, my pick would be the maple.
Ted at Roarockit
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Already got the homebuilt bug
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On 2/20/2006
TODD
wrote in from
Canada
(199.60.nnn.nnn)
Thanks for the info guys.
I've already got the homebuilt bug! It started with custom graphics, moving 180 trucks to the kick ends of a short board, and creating a mounting plate for a video camera on the nose. After I make this superlong, I'm going to make a 22 x 5.5" (with rollerskate trucks of course). It's all been done before, while some of you are playing with aluminum, laying glass 'n fibre, but I'm having fun.
Keep building guys, it's inspiring!
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my newest board
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On 2/20/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
rolls under my older boards,it's that low. I got the wrong locknuts for the hardware, so i've pinned it together checked the flex,perhaps a bit springy for tip top speeds. But i can't steer it (trucks are not bolted down) i see if it drags tommorrow.
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TODD
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On 2/20/2006
jaybyrd
wrote in from
Mexico
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If you are looking to make a sound but simple longboard that will mimic her's you can use a sheet of 15 ply Baltic Birch. It sometimes comes in 5'x 5' sheets around 35 to 50 dollars at wood working shops, not "Home Depot" style stores. It will sustain your weight and if you want to get fancy you can stain it or paint it to match her's. Just make sure to seal it with polyurethane or something simaliar.
Don't worry about making it perfect, just make it and enjoy it. After all it's your first one, there is always time to get it right after that one. Because once you start it's going to be hard to stop, after all you still have enough to make at least 5 more if you bought the whole 5'x 5' sheet.
Oh by the way, Tiger maple (sometimes refered to as Fidle back) is a very beautifull wood but unless you are looking for some highly figured wood and no stability I would stay away from it.
Whatever you decide to do just remimber to have fun and enjoy yourself, because thats what skating is all about.
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custom decks!
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On 2/20/2006
cxaddy
wrote in from
United States
(71.107.nnn.nnn)
any pics?
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solid birch
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On 2/20/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
might be interesting, it should be stiffer than the equal thickness of birch ply. Birch solid has no crossplys so it can split but also all the grain runs lengthwise so it should be stronger that way,it may snap cause it doesn't have as much sag.Solid wood is very individual the grain may run lengthwise but strength can vary depending on run out,how long the grain stays in the piece before it "runs out". Fiberglass skins can be used to prevent splits,beveling the edges is cool for reducing a bit of weight both in plys and solid. Fiberglassing on a beveled board makes things a bit more complicated. One of the misconceptions is that "homemade boards" is/are about cheap and simple, when many of the posts here ,and my motivation,is to build unique and high tech, with not to much concern about cost. Many newbie questions just want to know how to convert a pice of wood they find in the garbage into a fine quality skateboard.
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"POP
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On 2/19/2006 Kanoa
wrote in from
United States
(130.13.nnn.nnn)
Sorry, so there is no confusion, when I said "POP" I meant spring in the board for better ollie. Yes, I still ride long boards.
Ok, I've talked enough, shut up now.
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Glue
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On 2/19/2006 Kanoa
wrote in from
United States
(130.13.nnn.nnn)
Ok, I looked in the archives and it looks like "Gorilla Glue and Tite Bond III" Are these the best; will they help or hurt "POP"? Are there others?
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Most "POP"
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On 2/19/2006 Kanoa
wrote in from
United States
(130.13.nnn.nnn)
Any Ideas, materials or results or combonation for a board with the most "pop"
I love this site. I have to say out of the whole world, believe it or not, I think some of the most powerful and creative skateboard ideas come from here. You guys are the true pioneers of skateboarding.
Good Karma Always Kanoa.
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Glue
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On 2/19/2006
Kanoa
wrote in from
United States
(130.13.nnn.nnn)
Kanoa: Does anyone know what type of glue is used in layering short and lond boards today. I have done alot of reseach on patents and I am going to put two through in less then 2 months. Sorry I havn't been around in a while. Been in the short stick world. Good to see Herbn is still in the game. For anyone that doesn't know, he is a definate "Guru"
Always sportin Big Wood
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Solid Birch vs. Solid Maple
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On 2/19/2006
TODD
wrote in from
Canada
(199.60.nnn.nnn)
I searched through a bunch of posts on the HomeMade forum, but I didn't quite find the answer I was lookin' for. Can someone answer a newbie question, please?
My girlfriend bought a Kahuna 57" mahogany/maple "solid" deck. The plys are sideways (for lack of a proper term) and it's beautiful. Unlike my race deck, it surfs down the street! Now I wanna make a simple version of it, using solid baltic birch or maple. I don't yet know about wood density, tensile strength, etc, so which would be better for weight/strength at 5 feet? (I'm 185lbs)
I've read that hard-rock Canadian maple is the way to go (for ply decks), expensive, but what about that maple (I think it's refered to as tiger)? Usually used as a top ply for decoration but I've found a guy that lives in the bush who cuts it for funiture. What are it's characteristics with grain like that (for a solid deck)? Heavy?
Thanks for any info!!!
TODD
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my latest
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On 2/18/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
long time in the making,the trucks have been done ,except for maybe the ti kingpins i've been considering. the board that goes with these trucks, they quite literally are made to fit with each other and no others,a totally monogamous skateboard. The hole pattern for the trucks(and board) is 1.5x 2.25. The board is based on .375 birch multiply(7ply)with oak stingers,the oak stingers are inlaid but are also beamers,they are 2.0 apart so the truck bases fit between them perfectly,they stick out of the board perhaps a tiny bit more than a 1/4 inch in the middle(lengthwise)of the board and are sanded done flush with the board at the ends,sort of a tapered flex pattern.I have a layer of carbon cloth wedged in under the beams and visable between the beams. I shaped the ful wheel cutouts after outlining the rails, they have a nice smooth sine wave like curve to them slightly wider behind the front trucks than infront of the rear truck. This board is light, not like a foam/balsa carbon creation, but as a birch based dampening core ,3 lbs is pretty light ,and it's pretty damn strong as well, not a wallowy unstable comfy low speed board. with 320 gram trucks that have a 31 mm ride height with no pivot play and a nonmetalic cushioned ride,with 40 degree steering, this 37 inch board should be a high speed carving animal.
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New Company
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On 2/16/2006
Kurtis
wrote in from
Canada
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I live in Calgary, AB. Longboarding is increasing sport in my area. I'm just wondering is there are any longboarders, that want to help me in building and selling my own boards and clothing.
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good wood
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On 2/15/2006 tyler
wrote in from
United States
(209.158.nnn.nnn)
Birch is a nice wood to make a board with. If you can find yourself so nice birch multiply you are in business. Don't bother with that home depot or lowes garbarge, it has to many voids in it. Look for like a local store and hopefully they will have some. Hoped that help.
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Skateboards
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On 2/14/2006
Jay Navarette
wrote in from
United States
(70.179.nnn.nnn)
What wood is best for making home made skateboards?
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dp truck systems
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On 2/14/2006 Al Williams
wrote in from
Dominican Republic
(66.98.nnn.nnn)
HerbN,
To put things simply, there are a great number of combinations available with the 2 pivot systems. Yes, some have the Randal geometry and are hybrid sorts, others Independent geometry. The geometries try to lend themselves to the different styles of riding desired. However, all are pretty stable, as posted earlier. Yes, there will be a little weight gain, and they aren't really 'olli' type trucks. But they carve and pump exceptionally well, which is what they are basically designed for!
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factors
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On 2/13/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
there are lots of factors,what geometry do the extra bushings/pivot steer at? if the first set steer like a randal dh and the second set act like a 10 or 15 degree wedge, then the overall handling may not be to bad. The overall ride height should never ever be higher than a randal r2 and then could they be dropped through? the extra weight? i'm working on light as venture 5.0low, dh trucks,barely over 300 grams,randal r2's are like 425 grams dh's are heavier.
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DP trucks
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On 2/13/2006 Al Williams
wrote in from
Dominican Republic
(66.98.nnn.nnn)
Herbn,
Double Pivot trucks are killer carving trucks, and at pretty high speeds too! Having 2 kingpins you need only to crank one or both of them down when wanting to ride at higher speeds. Really, they're not 'squirrely' at all. Some world class riders have been on these, one of which came in 2nd in the Gravity Games Downhill event a couple years back, Eli Smouth. He also placed in The Morro Bay Slalom events of the same year. Anyway, he was one of the first test riders who tested them at high speeds. His impression was very positive, saying after haveing the boards a few weeks.."They're surprisingly stable! I took them to about 30mph.." another time he said he was .."power sliding on them all day". Right now I am looking at the Noskoolz wheels he was riding..and can still notice some of the asphalt still on the wheels from those days. It took me more than a few minutes to clean all the grime off of them when he returned the boards!
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its just another gimmick
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On 2/13/2006 ty guy
wrote in from
United States
(209.158.nnn.nnn)
Those trucks are just another gimmick, imho. Just like those urethane uptrucks and any others. If people want a surfy feeling, just get your self some regular old trackers and some blue bones hardcores, that will do the trick. High trucks aren't fun to ride, especially if they get squirrely.
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double the bushings
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On 2/12/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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well it's not a 58 supercruiser,it looks like you could skate it around in the library, or in a warehouse or something like that. Super tight turning radius is sort of like a temporary obsession(it should be)it's kind of cool but then you realize it's not really all that useful,unless you spend a lot of time at under 5 mph carving in and out of rows of bookshelves or something like that.
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sidewinders?
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On 2/12/2006
Munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(86.132.nnn.nnn)
From what i've read, they tend to be sold as a 'Truck for old school setups', was this the idea, or was it more like the carver type way of going, like Herbn mentioned?
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sidewinders?
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On 2/12/2006
Munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(86.132.nnn.nnn)
Hey Al,
have you got a good picture of them, this is the only one i can find?
cheers.
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two pivots and two sets of bushings(?)
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On 2/11/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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the questionmark is not because i didn't get it,i don't get why. A truck on a truck, huh? kind of like that carver thing that you only run one up front and don't go fast on it.Probabely another attempt at a "surfy" ride, yuck. I consider "surfy" to be a derrogatory remark,when talking about a skateboard. I expect a skateboard to go exactly where i want it to,at any speed. All that loose back truck/tight front, so it carves like off a fin,b.s. yuck yuck yuck!With all the airs and stuff in surfing i imagine that surfboard builders are trying to make their boards as "skatey" as possible a nice precise carve and holding a perfect line for as much pump/launch as possible.
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Sidewinder info on Silverfish LB site
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On 2/10/2006 Al Williams
wrote in from
Dominican Republic
(66.98.nnn.nnn)
Herb, I forgot that this was the NCDSA....the Sidewinder thread is on Silverfish Longboarding at: http://www_silverfishlongboarding_com
They have most of the info. on the Sidewinders, DP truck systems etc...
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DP trucks
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On 2/10/2006 Al Williams
wrote in from
Dominican Republic
(66.98.nnn.nnn)
HerbN,
If you haven't checked out the new S9 Sidewinder truck thread you should. They have posted some good close-ups of the Sidewinder, which is a double pivot type truck. That is, it utilizes 2 pivots/kingpins and twice as many bushings as regular trucks do. The 2 pivots give the trucks excellent traction and the ability to make very sharpturns, and I'd be surprised to find a truck with a tighter turning radius,ie..less than 3 ft. on a 31" deck. Anyway, there are more than one configuration with the DP type trucks. It has twice as many truck components to play with and tweek! So, the R and D will probably be endless with this one! To complicate things even more you can add another insert to the truck to make a 3 pivot configuration. All in all they are extremely fun trucks to ride!
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