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Helmet test
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On 11/8/2000 Herbn
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I'm not sure how those overlords of safety test helmets, but people landing on their heads at 55 mph and walking/living ,is not "testing". It a bit,ok a lot of luck,some flexibility,not weighing over 200lbs helps to ,ect.A helmet manufacturer would never promise that kind of results.
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Dr Go Fast
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On 11/7/2000
DT
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These helmets have been tested and they are safe. I've seen people land head first at over 55mph and get up without even a concussion. I've seen other crashes that should have broke the riders neck, but the helmet distributes the impact load onto the shoulder. These helmets are the best you can find, but carry a fat price tag. They are fast, safe, have the best visuals, and have the highest construction standards. Just because some government agency hasnt tested them doesnt mean they dont excel expectations.
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helmets
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On 11/7/2000
Jon
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If you want real protection the only thing to do is get a certified motorcycle helmet. Anything else is compromising safety for aerodyamics or weight.
I use a Shoei TRX, it has a very narrow profile compared tp most moto lids Until someone comes up with a SAFE aero helmet, I know where I'm sticking my noggin
Cheers then
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good helmet
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On 11/5/2000
david
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what would be a good helmet, preferably full face, thats not to exspensive and not to bulky?
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Wedge helmets
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On 11/4/2000
Keith Fellmy (Mr. Safety)
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Yes wedge helmets are for luge and CAN be used for stand up but it's not easy. Plus your chin sticks out the bottom of the helmet. I've had some chin scrape-age in my time. I am thinking about getting one of those mega dollar carbon fiber things that the Gravity Games guys wear. I'm gonna get it in black with a dark sun visor and look like Darth Vader coming down the hill. Hey Gary Hardwick already looks like a Stormtrooper with his white helmet and leathers.
Stay safe
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wedge
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On 11/3/2000
hugh r
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Thanks for the info... you have helped on this! HR
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Wedge helmets
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On 11/2/2000
DT
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Wedge helmets are the helmet of choice for street luge and buttboarding, they are cut lower and allow better vision when looking down, THESE ARE NOT GOOD FOR SPEEDBOARDING , because you need to be able to look up and forward.
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snorider wedge helmets
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On 10/31/2000
hugh r
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Any thoughts on these helmets? Thanks, HR
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bellistic helmet
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On 10/30/2000
hugh r
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Ondrej,
Thanks for the heads up on the bell helmet...
I have been in contact with Bell Corp and they walked me through the inspection on the helmet. Apparently the one that I have received had already been to the factory to have the faulty chin strap peice replaced. If the date sticker has a red dot on it, then the re-work has already been done.
Thanks again, HR
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hip protection
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On 10/29/2000 mikez
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Is there any cheapish form of hip protection
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Pro-Tec
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On 10/29/2000 DOOBIE
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I've always had good experiences with these... why don't they make a downhill helmet?
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bellistic helmet
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On 10/27/2000
ondrej
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The 1999 Bell Bellistic helmet had a recall because it is defective. Go to the following site for more info. http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml99/99104.html
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Bellistic helmet
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On 10/24/2000
hugh r
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Pricepoint.com has the 1999 version of this helmet for less than $60.00 I couldn't pass it up (I have had great experience with Bell moto helmets)
Do any of you have a review on this helmet? Thanks, HR
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Slider gloves
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On 10/9/2000 Herbn
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I get REALLY low during slides sometimes usually dragging nothing but the glove and the wheels,if you look at the pics of my gloves on Hugh's site you'll see that my gloves even have a slider piece on the cuff,that was not on my earlier gloves but added later when i found and felt that part of the glove dragging on the street.
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sliders
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On 10/7/2000 scott
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hey chris, i really like those gloves you have. they look professional. just out of curiousity, do you ever scrape the fingers on the ground during slides? when i slide the fingers make the first contact with the pavement (i use gloves with two cutting board pieces, one for the palm and one for the fingers).
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KEVLAR LEATHER
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On 10/2/2000
RICHARD LANDINGHAM
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KEVLAR LEATHERS LIGHT WEIGHT VERY STRONG AND ABRASION RESISTANCE CUSTOM FITTED LAPEXT2@LYCOS.COM OR WWW.LAPSURF.COM
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Menace
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On 9/28/2000 Nick
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Got a good deal on some menace pads in a second hand shop. Helped the guy out with on the value of some boards he had and he threw in some wrist guards. Anyone familar with this brand "Menace"
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herbn's sliders
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On 9/25/2000
hugh r
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Herbn,
Congratulations and welcome to the world of attachments!!
Now that the man has joined the ranks of the computer savey... I have started a "herbn's skate stuff" page on my site... so far there are a couple pictures of his lace up sliders... off of the NCDSA links page... HR
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homestyle sliders
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On 9/24/2000
waxfoot
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Allrighty then, just went to that Wally store and picked up some industrial velcro and a cutting board (DOH! forgot the needle and thread!) and then to Ace for some gloves. Didn't find necessarily the gloves that I was looking for, but I should be able to sew through them.... Gotta go back and get the needle and thread and draw the hand shapes on the cutting board for the next time I have access to the shop, but at least I have materials. Hey thanks Chris and Herbn for the rounding of edges/router advice. Maybe they'll let me use the one at work. Want to start putting them together right now but I have an entomology test tomorrow (anyone speak bug? ;) ) and of course I forgot the needle and thread. By the by, I was talking to Roger the other day and he was mentioning coming across some kevlar w/ steel fiber gloves at McMaster. I think they're $20/glove, making them $40 a pair, but if they're tough, they might be potential sliders without UHMW???? I'm eagerly awaiting his review.
waxfoot
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Uhmw
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On 9/24/2000 Herbn
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Uhmw and router bits are the best of friends,you dont even need the ones that have bearings on them cause UHMW is so abrasion resistant,it cuts very smooth though,carbide is better though.
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sliding gloves
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On 9/24/2000
kaspian
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In behalf of those of us who are not DIY-ers, I think there would be a ready market (albeit maybe a modest one) for these gloves, in case any of you feel inclined to offer a batch for sale.
The subject just came up (again) in alt.skate-board in the past few days, and 2 or 3 oldschoolers immediately posted responses to the effect of, "Where can I buy a set of these things?"
Maybe Chris could add these to his burgeoning line of Roughcut™ products!
peace
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Slide gloves
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On 9/23/2000
Chris Chaput
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Thanks for the kind words. Hugh is an inspiration to me and really motivates me to give what I can, when I can. The whole "how-to" concept is very rewarding to me.
What wasn't mentioned before about the slide glove plastic pieces is the that the edges of the side that contacts the asphalt should be rounded off so that they won't catch an edge when sliding. I'm not sure what UHMW would do a quarter round router bit, but filing down the edges seems just as effective. With all the downward force on the pad, the "industrial strength" 2 inch wide velcro strips from Home Depot seems to hold just fine. If you need need to order some plastic from an online company (or call them), http://www.McMaster.com has the UHMW sheets in a number of thicknesses and sizes.
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sliding gloves
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On 9/23/2000
waxfoot
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Herbn - Appreciate the info on the different types of velcro - you learn something every day if you look for it. As I think about it, I have seen both varieties of velcro, and know that the tough stuff is harder to pull apart. A definite strong point (no pun intended).
Hope you weren't digging too hard on those of us that like to skate to work on our surf skills too. It's not that I don't have time, money, or the skills to make downhill gloves. I just figured why not ask the guys who have made and tested several different types of gloves to see the best way to go about it. It's all about using your resources. Sure, I can whack together some junky slider gloves that might hold up for a sesh or two, but why not do some research into it, ask the guys like you, Chris C. and Hugh for suggestions on making something that's going to be safe and hold together under pressure. The exchange of information is why we're all here anyway, right?
I may not be the most bitchin' downhiller on the big island and I probably won't ever be, but I'm learning, and safety is a big part of learning. This is, after all the safety equipment forum, and I feel that if I am to protect myself while learning to slide, I should have the correct equipment. Safety comes in other forms than equipment as well. Skills are also a big part of safety. And I know full well that if I am to pursue downhilling as I want to, I need to know how to do the several different types of slides. Thus why I have been asking Chris C. and others for information. And sliding gloves are an important tool in learning how to slide properly. There's enough people in the water that seem to have forgotten that they had to start from the beginning just like everyone else. I hear them yelling at some poor soul who is trying their best to learn. I think it's important to remember where I came from and that I was just learning how once. If I see somebody struggling, I'll ask them if they need help. One of the things that stoked me out about this site is the fact that all of you guys out there are willing to share the info and knowledge that you have with those of us who need some work with the skills and equipment. I appreciate that more than some because you guys are sort of the lifeline to the sport for me. 99.9% of the time I end up skating by myself and have nobody to work on skills with. Not for lack of trying, but just lack of people who are willing to hit the hills with me. I've only found two people who are up for it, and only one of them actually has a board. As always, I appreciate any info that I get from you guys (mahalo Chris C. for all the videos and pictures recently) and maybe one of these days I'll make it over to check you guys out at the Dump Road you call home....
waxfoot
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Slide Gloves
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On 9/21/2000
Chris Chaput
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I think a good cheap leather glove works well (the IronClad are free to me). You can make many different shapes and different size slides to attach to the velcro glove. Check out some pictures at: http://www.chrischaput.com/gloves for some pictures of what I'll be experimenting with.
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herbns pics
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On 9/21/2000
hugh r
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Re Herbn's pictures: I must say that the poor guy did try to send me some pictures of his gloves. It seems as if poor herb is quite "attachment" challenged...
I keep hoping he tries it again.
On a side note: I do have an entry on my "to do" list to make up a couple of new gloves. One set will be designed for sliders who want to be able to grab their boards. The other will be designed as safety sliders for speedboarding... HR
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