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Flyaway
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On 8/16/2001
Theboz65
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Longboardkook and kevin,
Thanks guys for the line on the Flyaway. It's on it's way to the left coast as we speak. My melon should be stylin' by this time next week.
Tom Bosworth
Knucklehead Racing Team (gravity is good)
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Flyaway
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On 8/15/2001
kevin
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I bought one of the last 2 at longboard house in FL, they had one black extra-large left as of 8/13/01. Thanks to the guy who posted and let me know about the helmet.
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Helmets
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On 8/14/2001
Theboz65
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I've got an XL Pro-Tec Aero(?) hemet. The cjhin strap is too short to reach around my Leno-seque chin. Not getting any response from Pro-Tec on fixes. Is there a helmet out there with longer chinstraps?
Thanks.
Tom Bosworth
Knucklehead Racing Team (member since '01)
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flyaways
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On 8/13/2001 longboardkook
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Damn, I hate this TV Internet thing. I tried to say, tell them that the Surfrider Foundation gu from DC (that's me), saw the flyaways at the Longboard House.
DR
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flyaway helmet
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On 8/13/2001 longboardkook
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SimFucious,
There were some NOS flyaways at The Longboard House in Melboourne, FL (cetnral Florida). Try checking out there web page www.longboardhouse.com for a phone number. If you call out there, you might get one of the clueless sales reps or might get one of the experts. Tell them that they are over with the skateboards and you had better be real descriptive of the diff between a flyaway and a protec.
Maybe they still have them.
DR
PS, Tell the Surfrider Foundation guy from Washington DC saw the flyaways there a few months ago.
BTW, are you going to be at the race in Gaithersberg on the 8th os September?
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Flyaway Helmet
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On 8/13/2001
SimFucious
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Anyone know where I can pick up a flyaway helmet? Website or Store?
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safety gear
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On 8/12/2001 martial
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OK with leo's expt 6): $$$$ . I'd add a chest armor: light, effective, not too much $$$
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safety list
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On 8/8/2001
davi
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i would to add common sense. ovously, some accidents are unavodable, and safety gear should always be worn but simply using your brains and not riding above your riding level can make a big difference. i do believe thats kept be from many accidents.
skate hard
david
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Safty equipment
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On 8/6/2001
eric
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I'm in agreement with Leo, but I'd also like to throw in pants or shorts that won't get in the way of good movement or get stuck in yer wheels (rec luge/coffin) and a shirt. I've seen little spills lead to road rash when even a little ol' undershirt would have saved the ribs.
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safety list
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On 8/5/2001
Leo
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Cliff this are mine:
1-helmet
2-slide gloves
3-knee pads
4-elbow pads
5-high ankled shoes
6-leather for the speedboarders
7-forearms protectors
8-good driver behind you when going downhill fast
and thats it
Leo
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Safety equipment
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On 8/4/2001
Cliff Coleman
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Please list your choices for the most important safety equipment. List them in order of importance, as many as you want to list.
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make your own gloves
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On 8/4/2001
boardrider
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Although Eloura makes specialized LongSkate gloves, I strongly advise you to make your own pair. Go to any gas station or tool shop and get a good pair of leather gloves. Then stop on a road and grab those signal cones they use on construction sites. Cut pieces for the palm and the fingers and glue them using cyanolite or neoprene glue. Those are the best gloves you can get as you can renew them as long as you have some plastic left. You can also use pieces of lexan, or teflon or plexiglas, but My preferences goes to the plastic used for those signal cones...
email me if you wish to know more...
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manu makes those sliding gloves
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On 7/28/2001 mikez
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manu was giving out these gloves that made you look like a ninja turtle. but had these cool sliding peices and you could move your hand well
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anyone know of any good gloves or where to find them?
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On 7/28/2001
josh
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does anyone know of a company that makes fairly good gloves.. maybe some with some plastic on them? im not talking about the shitty rollerblade ones,, but some that resemble moto gloves, but with more protection agaist huge slides and so forth... thanks
Josh
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Leathers / helmet
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On 7/27/2001 Duane
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I found that Vigor Azonic helmet for 99 bucks with search on Yahoo. I'm not sure I'd want the projecting chin on that helmet, seems like it could twist your head in a bad fall. And no visor , unless I missed something. A little dirt in the face at 45mph would be a bit uncomfortable. A road or a car in the face would be even less comfortable.
Leathers: many types of leathers have options for hard and / or soft protection that slip into pockets in the vulnerable areas (under the leather). The new euro specs for motorcycle leathers call for this, called dual density sometimes. It means a hard plastic or composite shell with padding, often a kevlar blend for added skid protection. Essentially a slip-in skate pad. My leathers have hard shell padding in the knees, shoulders,and elbows / forearms. Often the difference between so-so and nice leathers is not so much the leather, but the quantity, quality and fit (and thus comfort)of this extra protection.
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Pads on leathers
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On 7/27/2001 roger
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Leo,
You bet! Leathers provide little or no protection from impacts. Good for preventing road rash, but bruises are very common. I wear pads in the high impact areas (both knees and leading arm/shoulder) and highly recommend it for practicing.
Placing pads on the outside helps extend the life of leathers. Easier to replace a kneepad than repair leathers. Wearing a pad on the inside can actually cause leathers to wear a hole faster because abbrasion is focused on the pads hard shell. It is also much easier to put pads on over leathers, use only the staps and sometimes some duct tape. I have a couple of pad just duct taped in place, slip on the leathers and they are on ;) Disadvantage of wearing pads on the outside is greater air resistance (less aerodynamic).
Currently my favorite knee pad for speedboarding is an older model made by, believe it or not, Rollerblade. It has good flexibility and good side coverage.
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Protection equipment % leathers
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On 7/26/2001
leo
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When you guys use leathers, do you use knee and elbow pads too?above or under the leathers
than
leo
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Helmets
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On 7/16/2001 Dave G
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Anyone looking for a great helmet!!! Try shred ready or grateful heads!!! They are what we use in the whitewater world. But they are tremendously togh and compfy!!
i get mine locally but try their sites...Shredready.com and Gratefulheads.com
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looking 4 leathers and Bieffe Helmets
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On 7/12/2001 RichardB
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I'm looking to buy some leathers pretty soon - just saving up some cash. I would like to know if anyone out there could tell me what i should look for in a good 1 piece suit which will be used mainly for racing.
I am also trying to find a Bieffe helmet dealer in the uk so if anyone could give me some info i'd be grateful.
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helmet?
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On 7/11/2001 Skikki
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Can anyone suggest a good helmet that I could use for skating and for skiing in the winter?
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Supaflex sliders
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On 7/9/2001 PCB
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You can see them at the Supaflex site. I think it's www.supaflexbyug.com and on the news section they have a nifty webpage setup that allows you to view the glove from all angles on the horizontal plane. It looks pretty good for those cold days, where one would want to have the mitten effect. Perhaps they'll also have ones with traditional four finger styling.
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supaflex sliders
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On 7/9/2001 R.
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hey, if you check the vendor's forum, apparently the dude from street machine will send you pictures of the gloves over email.
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Equipment Design
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On 7/5/2001
MarkR
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Hi Folks,
I am an equipment product designer with over ten years professional experience in protective equipment such as football, ice & street hockey, baseball, skateboard, martial arts, polo, alpine downhill, lacrosse, footwear shock absorption, medical, and military. Most of this has been applied in impact related sports and injury.
I am glad to happen across the forum. It is a great place to acquire first hand information for defining perimeters for design.
Most of what I have found is that ultimately the users are willing to subject themselves to greater chance of injury, wearing less protective equipment, to get away with wearing less bulky or less restrictive protective equipment.
This is across all sports. This is usually in highly aerobic sports as mentioned above. While I'm sure you could work up a good sweat in most of the extreme sports, the duration of the sport in competition might eliminate the resistance to the minimal amount of additional protection inleu of saving skin and bone.
The other issue has always been Market Share (number of buyers)-Vs- Manufacturing Cost Acceptability (cost/profit to get to market).
It is always been possible to improve on existing product technology, but when the user sees what the technology costs they usually choke. The user seldom considers what it takes and costs to design, prototype, test, manufacture, and distribute an item. It's the nature of business. "One-Off's" or custom pieces will always be very expensive since it is for a single buyer.
There are incredible material resources available today for fit, form, breathe ability, hydrophobic characteristics (moisture resistance/dispersion), abrasion resistance, slide, etc., etc. but at a cost that the general public has not been willing to spend. Part of it is also education.
When designing protective equipment for pro football and hockey players early on, they would choke at the cost of the new technology compared to buying something off the shelf based on twenty year old accepted products. You have to askk yourelf... why is it the norm...why is it accepted?
Ususally pricepoint and market share. It has nothing to do with the needs of the protection or the individual.
When we asked, "What does it cost for a visit to the hospital? What does it cost to miss a season? What does your doctor charge for visits? What is your pain and recovery worth? ...... the answers are different.
Aslo, ask yourself this .... can you participate in your sport while recovering from an injury with your existing equipment? See what I mean. Check your answers.
love to hear from you or read your feedback.
MarkR
Minimum quantities of the raw materials for prototyping or custom manufacturing are usually quite high also.
Size of the market, or willingness for individuals to spend the money for custom equipment usually dictates the outcome.
Can someone tell me what the size of this limited extreme performance market is for things like street luge or downhill skateboard, or others? Who are the organizations.
Where are the meets?
By the way, a "good" well fitted neck roll (longhorn) for things like street luge or competition downhill skateboard is a lot better than a wheel chair. When they say, "These daredevil skateboarders race downhill at breakneck speed in an effort to break the tape," they mean it. Get one.
I would appreciate your information.
MarkR
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StreetMachine sliding gloves
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On 7/4/2001 PCB
wrote in from
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I doubt they would, as they only have slow street stuff listed on their website (unless I'm missing something).
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downhill gloves
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On 7/2/2001
david
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is streetmachine going to put some pics of these gloves on their site. i professionaly made sliding glove would be really nice
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