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Safety Equipment (1172 Posts)
Product Review
Giro Switchblade
On 8/23/2002 psYch0Lloyd wrote in from (198.160.nnn.nnn)

I picked up one of these helmets (Thanks Judi!) and I'll have to say that there's nothing else out there that fits like this. I can tell already that the vents are going to keep the racers' cool headed on the course. Definately a worthwhile investment...

Alan Sidlo
Knucklehead Racing Team

 
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Giro Sport Design
On 8/23/2002 Judi wrote in from (216.142.nnn.nnn)

Helmets.
Right now the 2 helmets I orders for are the Switchblade full face and then the Semi. The Switchblade is worn by Gary Holl during the La Costa giant slalom race on the Fox Show. They are pricey but protect well. I should know since I've had a few rocks in the chin and have a good scar to show prior to going for the full face. It doesn't get in the way and is super light weight and has lots of vents. It's a free ride heavy hit Mountain bike helmet that is popular in the BC Canada area of the world.

 
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Spat's list
On 8/23/2002 WesE wrote in from (216.164.nnn.nnn)

That was a good list, Spat. However, I have opinions that would alter it somewhat. Harbinger has 2 models of knee pad. Both of them are designed well in terms of how they fit and how they stay where they're supposed to. They have a cheaper pair that have these quallities but only have 1" thick padding. I have these and definately rate them as you have (Cat 2-). But Harbinger also has a "premium" pair of knee pads that do seem to nearly compare to ProDesigned in the padding dept. As for Boneless pads, they have a wierd design that looks either uncomfortable or unsecure (or both). If they're as unsecure as they look, I would rate them as a Cat1.

 
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Re: Pain Cheaters
On 8/23/2002 Spat wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

www.paincheaters.com

 
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Paincheater
On 8/22/2002 Kenny wrote in from (216.17.nnn.nnn)

Any word on where to get Paincheaters online?

 
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My .02 on Pads
On 8/22/2002 Spat wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

Seems to be a lot of questions on pads so I thought I'd chime in with my .02 on what is available out there. To keep things somewhat simple I'll put the various pads in 1 of 3 categories; CAT1, CAT2, and CAT3 with CAT1 offering the least amount of protection. Obviously some pads are are in the upper or lower segment of each of the 3 categories.
CAT1: These are the pads I feel are very lacking in protection and therefore consider them almost useless for aggressive park and vert applications. ProTec, TSG, Rector, and any pad you might find in your local discount store. Quite possibly the Rector Fat Boys might be on the fringe of CAT 1 and 2 but if you intend to skate big transition, spend the extra money.
CAT2: These pads would all be acceptable for aggressive skating. I'll place Harbinger, Boneless, Smith, and 187 into this category with 187 being on the upper end of the spectrum and Harbinger towards the bottom.
CAT3: There are only 2 pads I'd put into this category and that is Pro Designed and Pain Cheaters. None of the other pads compare. Pain Cheaters only make knee pads yet these are bar none the finest available and offer supreme protection. Both of the companies offer custom fitting and Pro Designed makes a pad to fit virtually any skating application.

 
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Pro Designed Knee's
On 8/22/2002 K-LEE wrote in from (68.35.nnn.nnn)

I've got the "recreational" Pro Designed knee pads, which have the least amount of padding. I initially got them for slalom use, but found them so comfortable next to my extra bulky Harbinger knee pads that I use them for all my skating now. They fit snugly with not much chance of sliding off, and even the "recreational" version has plenty of comfy padding. I was wearing a Large in the Harbingers, but got a Med in the Pro Designed, and still had to mod them with extra velcro. Could've probably fit into a Small. So, they run big but they feel great. And they come in 3 or 4 levels of padding. I used them the other day, and they slide well too. Two thumbs up.

 
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Pro Designed pads
On 8/22/2002 Dan Hughes wrote in from (162.78.nnn.nnn)

I have the elbow pads, and wrist guards. I can highly recomend the elbow pads, very nice, and thick pads. The Wrist guards. Well, I purchased two sets (one for my 16 year old also), and they don't hold up well. The seams have been coming apart. So, what's happened is that I have used both sets, because my son didn't want to use them (wind in the hair deal). But, both sets have come apart the same way. But, I've had no problem with the elbow pads.
dan

 
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Pro-Designed
On 8/22/2002 r. wrote in from (156.40.nnn.nnn)

Lee- Do a Search of the Archives.

 
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Off Topic For GRAHAM SIMS
On 8/21/2002 Wesley Tucker wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

Graham,

You don't have an e-mail attached to your post to Chuck. Do you slalom? If so, e-mail me. I'm in Summerville. So far, there's THREE of us around here riding cones: me, Jimmy Burnham down in Hollywood and Tasos on James Island. Let us know if you want to know about the next cone session at the Bus Terminal.

(Sorry about this off-topic stuff. I have no way of knowing if Graham reads the Slalom or other forums I follow.)

 
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pro designed pads
On 8/21/2002 Lee wrote in from (209.112.nnn.nnn)

anyone tell me their experience with pro designed pads.

Thanks,
Lee

 
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187's
On 8/21/2002 Andy wrote in from (206.210.nnn.nnn)

I got my from the 187 dude directly and my buddy gave me his number. But I can't find it now. He is in St. Augustine Florida I think. Do a web search and you should be able to find it.

I like the elbows and knees I have.

 
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Suggestions: Need Helmet and Pads
On 8/20/2002 Glenn S. wrote in from (68.5.nnn.nnn)

I've looked back in the older posts about helmets and pads but get confused as to what is best for slalom.

I'm not worried about money. I figure it be better than payin a big medical bill. But I want pad that will last and a helmet that will take more than one crash.

Any suggestion on where to look or what to get?

 
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187 pads
On 8/18/2002 Graham Sims wrote in from (66.20.nnn.nnn)

just drop him an email... not sure of his number, I HAD it somewhere but NOOOO my dad cleaned my desk... doh!

 
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Looking for 187 Knee & Elbow Pads
On 8/16/2002 lbk wrote in from (166.90.nnn.nnn)

Lost my pads the other day (might have been stolen). I was using 7 year old ProTec Fatboys but all ProTec sells now is worthless to anyone that knee slides at all. I like the feel of my brother's 187 Knee Pads but I can't seem to locate any to buy. Any ideas for the DC Area? I'm willing to buy them via mail order. Too bad the 187 web page is not up to date. Anybody got Vinny's (owner of 187) number?

 
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Big Noggin Helmets
On 8/15/2002 R. wrote in from (156.40.nnn.nnn)

At a corpo bike store in 7 corners (VA), they had some skate style bike helmets that looked okay and fit my large head. The brand name was Armor or Armour, out of somewhere in San Diego county, Oceanside, maybe. Foam not that thick, but looks good. Also, there are some skate-style bike helmets with the ring (O-ring?) that fits under the occiput. They tend to accomodate quite large heads.

 
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wrist guards
On 8/15/2002 loneskater wrote in from (159.87.nnn.nnn)

Triple 8 wrist guards. all leather half finger gloves work well. bombproof. i didn't even feel my last two falls on my wrists, one in a park and one on a T/S. my problem now is the skin between my elbow pad and wrist guard. inevitably my slide turns a little and my forearms get the rash bad. any ideas? thanks George.

 
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leathers
On 8/15/2002 edward wrote in from (170.215.nnn.nnn)

where can I find leathers in new york?

 
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TSG
On 8/12/2002 Kevin wrote in from (209.179.nnn.nnn)


Steve,I knew they would be cool. I should have just bought
them . Any ideas on where to get a 7 5/8 or 8 sized helmet?



 
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TSG
On 8/12/2002 Kevin wrote in from (209.179.nnn.nnn)

Wes, thanks for the scoop on the tsg pinhead helmet.
saved me a " Can I talk to your manager" call. But I am
definately gonna scare me up some of those wrist guards
Steve is talking about. The pro -tecs are ok , but,
they wouldn't return a simple e-mail and TSGs'look
like the call. Thanks again bro.

WES, any Idea on where to get a 7-5/8 - 8 size
helmet? I guess I should at least get one for parks
so I don't get head lice from a rental helmet.

 
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Pro-Designed Wristguards
On 8/10/2002 stevep wrote in from (66.92.nnn.nnn)

i just got a set of the Pro-Designed wristguards to replace my kinda skimpy rollerblade ones. hell yeah! big and beefy, a semi-slidy guard going on with the bottom brace. nicely adjustable with 2 lower straps and the upper strap is double locking and easily adjustable.

highly recommended - i have a bad wrist and really couldn't be more anal about wrist protection. i picked them up at eastcoastskates.com for $35 or so.

cheers!
steve

 
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TSG helmet
On 8/10/2002 WesE wrote in from (216.164.nnn.nnn)

Kevin, TSG helmets are NOT sized for ANYONE, except people that wear size-S. TSG uses a small sized plastic shell and then "adjusts" the helmet size by varying the amount of padding they put in.

 
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TSG wrist and helmet
On 8/10/2002 Kevin wrote in from (209.179.nnn.nnn)

I have seen but have not used TSG wrist guards .
they look real beefy compared to pro -tecs.I play guitar
all the time so I always wear some kind of wrist guard to skate.Any body know about TSG wrist guards and are their
helmets big enough for adults?

 
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Giro
On 8/9/2002 Tom M. wrote in from (164.227.nnn.nnn)

Gary,

Thanks for the info. So far, I've been able to find a picture of a couple of Giro helmets (on the web), but have not yet found a source. I'm (obviously) either not looking in the right places, or not looking hard enough. I will continue...

 
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TRACKER KNEEPADS
On 8/8/2002 Leo wrote in from (199.82.nnn.nnn)

Have you seen sergio yuppie´s knee pads?
got o gravytoboard.com and take a look, i think they are better than regular pads

leo

 
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