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Wake Board Protec Helmets, that is if you are wakeboarding
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On 5/19/2003 lbk
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G7en account of buying a wakeboard Protec as a skateboard helmet is exactly what I am talking about. I don't falt the guy for buying a helmet that fits and feels right; however, a helmet that is ok for wakeboarding or even slow ass kickflip style of skateboarding or low intense park skating dose not provide enough protection for the speeds slalom skateboarding reaches. But what pisses me off the most is that if anybody gets hurt using a Protec water helmet, Protec will claim no responsibility because if you look close inside the helmet it has a sticker that says for water use only.
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Protec/Gyro
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On 5/19/2003
PaulW
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Even as a kid, I needed the largest Protec and would still have problems clamping it onto my head, comfortably.
I got a Semi (for cycling/skating) last year and that fits well, though. Constructionwise, I'm not sure what the difference is between the Gyro and the Protec. They look the same to my untrained eye.
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safety equipment in general
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On 5/19/2003
FisH the DisH
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pads are a must im a firm beliver in that but they are so expensive i cant afford them and stupid stuff like oh i dont know food does anyone know where i can get dirt cheap pads that get the job done not dirt cheap as in shatters if the wind blows the wrong way used is an option
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Pro-tec helmets
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On 5/19/2003
G7enn
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My head is too big to fit in any of the pro-tec skateboard helmets. I was complaining about this to another guy at the local skatepark a few weeks ago and he said 'try this'. His L/XL pro-tec fitted perfectly. The reason?, it's a wakeboard helmet. It's obviously the exact same shell with different padding, no polystyrene and foam, just some kind of waterproof soft rubber. I've bought one myself. I apreciate, it's probably even less save than the made-for-skateboarding variety but it must be a hell of a lot better than the nothing I usually wear on my head.
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Pro-bunk
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On 5/19/2003
WesE
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The main problem with Pro-tec is that the sizes that are large enough for most adult men to wear have very little padding in them. If you put a size-XL Protec right next to a size-S Protec, they will look exactly the same in size. Considering this, it shouldn’t be too hard to figure out what Protec does to adjust the helmet to fit a certain size head.
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Protec "dual density" foam Helmets are "BUNK"
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On 5/18/2003 lbk
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kmg is not stupid but Protec must think we are because they still to this date sell their soft liner helmets (aka “dual density”) to us skateboarders when they are not safety rated for street use. I have no respect for a company that sells BUNK to the masses. Remember Free Former skateboards?
Any way I was duped into buying a sub par Protec helmet and I am in need of one that meets this decade’s standards and not 30-year-old technology. Then again as I was reminded by kmg, who is one of the most technologically bright persons I ride with, that no matter how your safety equipment is rated it does you no good when you don’t use it.
By the way, this is no new argument of mine. I’m just rehashing it because of Steve from AZ’s head injury today. Anybody out there from Protec want to respond?
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sliders
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On 5/14/2003 WesE
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UHMW can be cut with many different tools. Coping saw, jigsaw, dremel, router, pet piranha, etc, etc, etc,,,,
Draw the outline of the slide plate on the UHMW with a ballpoint pen and then cut around outside the line with the tool. The best tool is probably a router, but anything that cuts with an aggressive serrated blade should work as normal.
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slide gloves
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On 5/12/2003 Eoin
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Can anyone give me advice with the best way to cut the UHMW cutting board material up to make slide gloves?
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Giro/Bell
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On 5/4/2003
Tom M.
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Thanks, Judi.
Sounds like it may be worth a try. Doesn't sound like too many skaters have any input on the subject. I'll follow-up via email to save bandwidth.
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Giro/Bell
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On 5/3/2003
Judi
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Tom,
The thick pads are like wearing a big sponge on your head. Lots of skaters that have made the switch aren't having to ring out there helmet anymore. The new helmet technology calls for lighter and bigger vents.
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Gloves
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On 5/2/2003
Eric D.
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I hope these great ideas for gloves that everyone have offered will come to pass. Good stuff, all ideas that come from experience.
I hope that it inspires not only more think on the improvement of safety equipment of all kinds, but helps to nudge people in the direction of wearing all pads etc. every time we skate.
I once heard a pilot say " any landing we walk away from is a good landing"
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skateboard gloves
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On 5/1/2003
gavin
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in my humble opinion... i'm in the process of making my second set of slide gloves and what i've learned from the first pair are that i need some knuckle protection (to prevent skinned knuckles) and leather pads on the finger tips that cover more of the side of my fingers esp on the fist finger of my sliding hand (reg coleman slide) as thats the last digit to drag as i push myself up. i also angle (45deg) the leading edge of the slide pad.
beyond all that, the thing i'd really like from a factory made item is a good replaceable slide pad system. if you look at knee sliders in motorcycling you can get all manner of style/compound/shape/design sliders (not too mention ones impreganted with titanium rods to produce a shower of sparks) so it would be good to be able to pick and choose (but then they'll be more expensive that a budget plastic chopping board so maybe not a good idea).
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Bell/Giro
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On 4/30/2003
Tom M.
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Thanks Judi.
I'm eyeballing the Kinghead Pro Half...
Even though my head measures only 24 with the tape, after my experience with the Gyro, I'm thinking to "go long".
This brings me to my next question. It has been about 30 years since I've worn a MC helmet (an open-face by Bell definition). I don't remember any problem with sweating or overheating (at high MPH, the wind did wonders, IIRC).
However, when skating with my Protec "shell", sometimes I can literally POUR sweat out of it. It has many venelation holes & very little soft padding. The Bell Pro Half says it has Forehead/rear Slide Ventilation, but I'm wondering whether --- with the soft interior padding -- I'll be skating with my head in a fish bowl. <g>
Anyone have any experiences to tell about using MC helmets while skating? Any additional input on this from Judi?
TIA.
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On 4/29/2003
hc
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recently, i start using my homemade slider glove for park, (basically, take a pair of old school crochet cycling gloves with slider puck velcroed on),
works 'way' better than wristguard. (i believe in bending of the wrist when falling), would like more padding for the palm, though.
solomon have a very similar 'palm-guard' for rollerblading.
mia, just saw a girl demo, one girl had custom prodesigned pads.
skeletools makes hip pads for mountain boarding, beefier than crash pads.
cheapie method, i use Bike slider tights (for baseball), $20, double layer lycra at the hips, make a slit in the top layer, insert foam pads. (i just pad one hip)
i have list of safety equiptment manufacturers on my park page. check it out.
hc
geocities.com/sk8sanjose/park.h tml
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Mia - Pads
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On 4/29/2003
Rob
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Mia:
You might want to contact Claude Regnier (c.regnier@rogers.com)- he is based in Ottawa. I was talking to him about pads and he had a number of smaller pairs - brand new. I think they are Harbingers.
Worth the contact and maybe he can hook you up with something that will fit.
Hope it helps
Rob
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Knee pads
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On 4/28/2003
Mia
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Hey i'm mia...
When i ride i wear men's knee pads and i'm pretty tiny, about 5'1, and was wondering if someone knew a site that had women's knee pads. I'm in montreal and i cant seem to find any that fit me.
thanks
Mia
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Bell/Giro
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On 4/28/2003
Judi
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Tom M.
The Kinghead runs 63-66 cm (24 7/10"-25 9/10") the Giro Atlas is 57-64 cm (22.25-25").
The Semi runs 59-63 cm 23.25 "-24.75" That's as large as we go. By the way our sales manager is an old schooler size 14 plus shoes and he's six foot seven.
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Helmets (again)...
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On 4/26/2003
Tom M.
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I'm (still) in the market for a skateboard helmet that fits me.
I currently own a Protec that covers my head the way I'd like a helmet to -- low in back and to the top of my ears in ear cut-outs on sides, etc.
However, the Protec (which I believe is a L/XL) isn't long enough for my head (end up with a squeeze in center of forehead).
After hitting many dead-ends on line, I ordered a Gyro MX Semi from the local bike shop in a Large (supposed to be 23 1/4 - 24 3/4) and -- with the slimmest padding in -- it was
still pretty snug. Plus, it didn't fit as low as the Protec -- on the sides it was about 1 1/2 inches from the top of my ears and in the back if felt "high" as well (similar to a bike helmet fit, IMHO).
Both of the above helmets have roughly the same outside dimensions. The Gyro was a much thicker helmet, thus the higher/tighter fit (I'm assuming).
I've sent an email off to Bell (re: King Head) but I'm hoping there is someone "out there" who has had a similar problem and found a solution. I'm not too crazy about playing "send-back-the-helmet" from now until the end of the summer. Would *love* to walk into a shop and get one that fits right.
I guess I should be used to this. I wear size 15-16 shoes... But even with this deformaty, I can usually find something that fits well someplace.
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Skateboard Gloves
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On 4/26/2003
Tom M.
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As WesE said, the idea of a breathable glove is good.
I like a durable-fingered glove that allows me to wear wrist guards and (of course) slide pads. I've seen (Bozi) the gloves with the built-on sliders, but I'm not sure these will accomodate wrist guards. Occasionally, I'll wear wrist guards/slider pads only, but this is the exception (just too much trash on the roads).
I guess my fantasy glove would be one that breathes fairly well, has thick leather (or kevlar) finger tips (preferably down to the second joint), built-in slider pads that can be refreshed (if needed), leather (or kevlar) protection for the knife-edge of the hand (rarely have I rolled to the inside), and either built-in wrist guards or the ability to allow for wrist guards to be worn with it.
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Sk8 Gloves wish list
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On 4/26/2003 PSR
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Hugh,I'd like to see something along the lines of the Harbinger wrist-wrap,but with urethane fingertip protection like the old Sims gloves had.Maybe a velcro-on palm pad instead? Other stuff that'd be cool,would be a terrycloth sweat wipe on the back of the wrist area of the glove.Ventilation on the glove's backside should be tear/abrasion resistent,and not too open a mesh,as I hate sand in the glove.Yeah,by then the pup's will cost a fortune,but I'll have skin still on my hands.
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Spine Protection
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On 4/26/2003
Eric D.
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Thanks to WesE, Tom M, and Shredder for the suggestions on the spine protection.
I wanted to thank you privately, but you guys left dead end email addresses, so I had to use NCDSA space. Sorry for the inconveinience.
I will check all of those suggestions out, thanks again to those who are a positive influence on this site.
Summer is near, time to skate!
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Skateboard gloves
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On 4/25/2003
WesE
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HughR,
For protection when skating, I always wear wrist guards and usually no gloves. If I had to wear gloves (slidegloves? etc), in addition to the usual features, I would want them to not allow my hands to get hot. Make them a light color, such as baige. No black what-so-ever. Have the back of them be crochet, just like these cycling gloves, to allow plenty of ventilation. I would base any type of skateboard glove on this design. A good fabric for the lining on the palm-side is called Coolmax Alta. It wicks moisture and also dries quicker than almost any other material.
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oops
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On 4/25/2003 glenn s
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Crash-Pads
Messed up on the address there, this one should work.
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Crash Pads
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On 4/25/2003
glenn s
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Brady,
I beleive that those are the $40 model anywhere you buy them. I've seen those lower than that even. Crash-Pads has two other models that get better in quality and cost more in price than the one you posted, which is their low-end model. I think that it goes; $40 "underware", $60 "indoor/outdoor", and $80 "pro-pant". Each getting better in quality.
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skateboard gloves
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On 4/25/2003 hugh r
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Question for you all:
If you could design your own skate gloves, what would they be like? What features would you want in the ultimate skateboarding glove?
Would one glove do everything? Or would you want different features on different models for various situations (a sliding glove may be different than your park gloves which are different than your speedboard gloves)
The reason that I am asking is that I have been contacted by a glove company who is showing an interest in our sport... HR
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