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need new trucks
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On 12/25/2005 JAMES
wrote in from
United States
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hey i just bout a 57in deck...its 9/9.5in wide i wanted some trucks besides large gllwings or independs, anyone know any unique or more longboard style trucks that i can use well on a large deck..i saw an "origanal super 10" i was a lil suspicious as to the spring and it says recommended clearance be 8in width?? need hlp thanks-
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suspension
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On 12/23/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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i tok a look at that video ,very cool. I don't ssee the suspension though,it's a randle dh , and it steers pretty much up and down, that wouldn't really look any different with a bearing in the pivot, or even one between the the bushings.
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Paul's Randals
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On 12/23/2005
Steve in AZ
wrote in from
United States
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Hey, Paul. Here on the list now.
1. Run big bushings on the bottom. The black rubber Randal DH bushings have less return-to-center than urethane, but they'll be a bit more stable at speed with less wobbles.
2. Flip your kinpins so that the heads of the bolt are secured within the baseplate. Run Grade 8's and a little longer if you want.
3. Flip the hangers for a bit more stability, and
4. You can easily de-wedge that 50* baseplate down to a 40* with a simple 10* wedge. Granted, it's not the same as running 35*, 30* or 28* bases, but it'll do the trick for higher speeds.
Just a couple of simple hints until you can get the 35* bases.
Oh, and DH trucks come with 160mm hangers, not the 180's you probably have now.
-=S=-
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Thanks!
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On 12/23/2005
Paul Steuri
wrote in from
United States
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thanks Derik that helps alot! I'm going to try it now! Do you think it will be a good temporary setup until i get DH trucks?
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cushions not bearings for me
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On 12/23/2005 duane
wrote in from
United States
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if you want to see why I like to have a big, fat squishy bushing on the bottom of my trucks, and don't like the concept of a bearing on the hanger for speed, take a look at the link to the video of Rizzo (speedboard forum), the shot with the camera mounted under the deck shows the amount of suspension granted by the cushion, much of which would be lost with a bearing mount. It would also stress the kingpin a lot. if you wonder where broken kingpins come from, just imagine a hard mount there.
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Pauls flipped hanger
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On 12/23/2005
Derik
wrote in from
Germany
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Hi Paul,
check this: http://www.chrischaput.com/randal/
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Flipped hanger
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On 12/22/2005
Paul Steuri
wrote in from
United States
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What is the adventage of having a flipped hanger on Randall R II Trucks?
PLEASE write back!
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washers for sure
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On 12/21/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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at any thing but a 90 degree angle the distance between the king pin and the bottom of the pivot cup becomes longer,less pressure or a sloppier fit results, there is nothing to pull the hanger into the pivot. Less turning angle should mean stability but i think increased sloppyness in the pivot point will make up for that. Less steering and less stability, at least if the bushing were longer than stock you would get more steering but perhaps the play in the pivot would reduce the amount of steering also. Washers, keep things square.
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smaller Bushing for Randals
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On 12/21/2005
Derik
wrote in from
Germany
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I tried a few different bushings on my RII's. All the new bushing are a little shorter than Randal bushings. (Mostly the bottom bushing between the hangar and the baseplate.) So the the hangar is not exactly centered in the pivot when seen fron the side. That makes the 50 Degree Truck, lets say a 48. Do you have experiance if that will stress the truck? Do you put some washers under it to equalize the size?
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Freshly Faced Hangers
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On 12/17/2005
Mile High Mark
wrote in from
United States
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[b]Before:[/b]
[b]After:[/b]
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Radikal Trucks Do You Copy
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On 12/15/2005
Eddy
wrote in from
United States
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Eddy Martinez,3925 Los Arroyos Ct, Harlingen, Tx, 78550 ;)
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Radikal - Slalom and DH Trucks
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On 12/14/2005
Jack
wrote in from
United States
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Hello Everyone,
The first two waves of Radikal product has arrived at our California office. Shipping to customers has begun.
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Jack...If your Reading this....
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On 12/14/2005
North Carolina Longboarder-Downhillbillies
wrote in from
United States
(166.82.nnn.nnn)
....if you can please send me a 45 and 35....Thanks!
Marion Karr
Sk8sville, North Carolina
DHB WORLD HEADQUARTERS
"2006 The Year of the DHB STOKE TRAIN!"
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truck angles
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On 12/14/2005 duane
wrote in from
United States
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I run a 45 front and 35 rear on my everyday "speed" board, i use this around town as often as anything else. the 45 is done with a randal II 50 degree plate with some metal sanded off to lower the angle. Big soft bushings and full wheel cut-outs set loose makes it turn very well.
For big speed I often sub in a 28 degree randal rear plate. That's a nice plate for boards without drop-throughs, its pretty low.
35 in the front is troublesome unless you ride it all the time, its hard to adjust while pushing, and I've slammed on push-off a couple times with slow front trucks, very embarrassing
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45 degrees
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On 12/13/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
i like this angle, i feel like it's an optimal angle, steering equals liening. 35 may be more stable but you lose alot of steering,i've only ridden a randal with this turning angle and low speed stability can be a problem,perhaps if you get really used to them this goes away. What hapened to me was i would over steer,lein to far and get off balence,board would go mostly straight i'd step off to the side. I precisely turning truck may do better, i am working on a 40 degree truck after a few sets of 45 degree trucks that i feel have worked very well,you could dewedge a 45 in the back or both ends, i've used those thin wedges,i think those are 5 degrees ,i'm not sure.Mid 40's mph that is that's my neighborhood, i think i've cracked 50,just barely,i will do it for sure,next year cause i'm gonna start using a nice black full face helmet and black leathers,aero-dynamics.
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Thanks Civ and Miko
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On 12/13/2005
North Carolina Longboarder- Downhillbillies
wrote in from
United States
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Thanks Civ and Miko as well for the advice. Civ you know my riding stle so that is some good info. I think the mix degrees sound promising as well. (I read Marks post and responded without scrolling down first....oops).
Marion Karr
Sk8sville, North Carolina
DHB WORLD HEADQUARTERS
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Thanks Mark/ Talon Suggestions
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On 12/13/2005
North Carolina Longboarder- Downhillbillies
wrote in from
United States
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Thanks Mark. The board is a Big Red X currently set up with Randal DH's. I run either of the flywheels sizes depending on the hill but prefer 83mm. I need a board that can stick turns but is stable in straight bombing runs. I am not hitting the speeds of the big guns in DH but consistenly am in the mid 40's. I am going to switch out the trucks with the Talons.
What do you think? Sounds like the 45 degree is the best compromise but what are others running.
Marion Karr
Sk8sville, North Carolina
DHB WORLD HEADQUARTERS
"2006> DHB stoke fuel train is ready to leave the station!"
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DBH ANSWER
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On 12/13/2005
MARK MCCREE
wrote in from
United States
(69.69.nnn.nnn)
Marion,
The base plate angles now are 35, 45, and 55. The faster you want to go, the lower the angle should be. Also, the longer the board, the higher the angle CAN be before it gets too squirly. Hey, list your board specs and what you want to do with it and I'm sure you will get alot of suggestions.
Mark
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angles
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On 12/13/2005 Smutt boy
wrote in from
United States
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Speaking of truck angles...
I'm not sure of the angles but I have DH baseplates and 180 hangers.
Rear hanger is flipped, front hanger is normal.
Any Idea what the angles of this might be?
Feels pretty good to me.
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DH Truck Angles
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On 12/13/2005
Miko
wrote in from
United States
(69.85.nnn.nnn)
Marion, Civ...
I've long wished for the 35deg rear - 45deg front setup. I have my conventional mount Comet speedboard wedged up front so my 35deg Randal DH is about 41deg for a *tad* more steering. 55deg seems like too much.
I'm starting to think running a Crail front and Randall DH rear is an ideal setup. Anyone already doing this?
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angles
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On 12/13/2005
Civ
wrote in from
Canada
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marion, if you want a purpose built DH board go with 35 degree plates, the steeper angles are just going to turn more. If you want them to feel like the randal dhs 35* is the way to go. If you want a little more turn up front for some carving then a 55 up front might work well. Id say go 35/35.
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Radikal Talon Info Needed
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On 12/13/2005
North Carolina Longboarder-Downhillbillies.
wrote in from
United States
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Mark,
I have been riding Randal DH's and am excited about the Talons coming my way. I am a little confused on the two angle options. How do I determine which of the angled baseplates I need, the 35 degree or 55 degree?
[B]Marion Karr
Sk8sville, North Carolina
DHB WORLD HEADQUARTERS[/B]
"The DHB Stoke Train Coming to your town in 2006!"
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ti
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On 12/13/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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the way i figure it, that weight restriction is on a straight over unmodified part,my axles are gonna be 3/8 stock machined down to 8 mm( i kind of wish i had bought 1/2 inch all those years ago)any way i qualify on that waif factor.My ti Keo's(pedals) have no such warning, i rode an old square spindle ti(listed as 6/4.5) syncros bb for a bunch of years,with 180 cranks, that was pre drop off days but i'm no easy going mountain roady. I'm still gonna go easy on my new axles for a bit.
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Titanium
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On 12/13/2005
msk
wrote in from
United States
(68.190.nnn.nnn)
"6/4 is strong enough for crank spindles and pedal shafts?"
Only if you don't weigh that much. I've seen a far higher percentage of Ti BBs and pedal spindles break, compared to their steel counterparts. Most BBs and pedals that use Ti have rider weight limits, usually 160-180 lbs...
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CHUCK IS CORRECT
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On 12/12/2005
MARK MCCRE
wrote in from
United States
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Chuck is right. Sparky's proprietary (ory--whatever) TI formula is used for the axles as several other products he mfr's requires the same "high strength" material mix. I don't even know the formula-I wouldn't even understand it if I was told. What I DO know is that NO RADIKAL TI AXLE has EVER FAILED. That's a fact.
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