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KHIROS in DH
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On 3/7/2006 WAX
wrote in from
United States
(67.176.nnn.nnn)
Do it man...mine work fine..Khiros are the best bushings comercially produced at this time...and Bob is a heck of a great guy...
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DH bushings
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On 3/7/2006
Paul Steuri
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
khiro bushings for randal DH trucks? Anyone?
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215mm INDYS
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On 3/6/2006 pumped t obe stoked
wrote in from
United States
(128.138.nnn.nnn)
Been riding some indy 169s on one of sector9's original flexdecks for some time bombing hills in Boulder, CO. The R2s are an alright truck but when I decided to upgrade I bought some indy 215mm, I lost some speed compared to the 169s, which were rigged to make down the steeps without too much wobble, but the 215s feel amazing carving out huge turns doing 40ish
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stoked on strokers
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On 3/4/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
from a fairly reliable source,the guys at indy are going to make them again. I like them,they may be to complicated but i think that's what's cool about them. Also if they do it right, they could be massively ajustable,if you could attach the links at different points and vary the leverages different turning geometrys can be had, you've got to be a fairly competant tinkerer though, should be very interesting,i hope they make them lean further this time.One nagging doubt,i've heard they stopped making the 109 cause something went wrong with the mold,perhaps the originals broke,and they may let the 215 go the same way,like they're being real tight with development money on products that arn't best sellers,so with that attitude it seems unlikely that they would venture into something as complex and expensive as an updated stroker ,building on to modern standards is way more tech than even the originals were.
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Randal 1 DH Speed Truck
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On 3/4/2006
Thomas Groover
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
The Randal 1 DH truck is a well designed, simple and dependable high-speed truck. As I have experienced, it is very forgiving - especially for someone who is not used to the speed and just freezes-up halfway down the hill. These trucks will make sure you roll to the bottom of the hill in one piece, no matter what speed you may be going. It is no question that after about 30-35 m.p.h., these trucks suddenly "come to life". This is when the effeciency of the design can be felt. Whether bombing or power-carving a massive slope, Randal DH take the Holy $#@T! out of high-speed cruising. I bought my pair for $40.00 from Slacktime.com. Randal said it himself: If you want to loose skin, that's your decision. But, if you want to go high-speed with control, I strongly recommend these trucks.
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DH bushings
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On 3/3/2006
Paul Steuri
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Has anyone tried khiro bushings for randall dh trucks? They seem to be of similar shape as the stock bushings, but then again I have never seen khiro bushing in real life.
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i heard
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On 3/3/2006 herb
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
i started like that because i think the idea is questionable and probabely sort of dumb. It may work,with a very light oil your bearings may be faster and you may win on that aspect,also having a slightly better tuck or....no one said you would still win on the axle bearings it's just a safety factor. If a bearing even starts to jam up a little the axle bearing will rev up so it avoids that hypothetical full on welded bearing seize, that crumbles the retainer and pops balls(followed shortly by your body) out onto the street. If i made trucks with rolling axles, they'd need to be split axles and i'd use micro bearings and the axles would have machined in spacers, that's a huge IF and it would just be a novel thing to do.
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revenge
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On 3/3/2006 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(129.82.nnn.nnn)
who's ridden revenge trucks? what do you think? pumping?
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Bearing Failure
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On 3/2/2006
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
If the idea is run your bearings so close to being dry that they could seize, there's a better chance that this will cause you to lose than there is for you to go any faster. I probably couldn't couldn't tell the difference between a board with normal lube levels and minimal lube levels just by riding it. If you seize a bearing in a wheel, there is no chance for you to continue at a comparable speed using the bearings in the hangers to spin the axle. The axles warp under a load and don't spin freely. Imagine if all of the bearings in your wheels were seized and welded to the axle. The wheel on the inside of the turn and the wheel on the outside of the turn would be forced to spin at the same rate because they'd be connected by the axle!
You'd be just as well off by lubing your axles and letting the inner race of the bearing spin around the axle.
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dry bearings
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On 3/2/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
I've heard, that with rolling axles,you put a set of reliable well lubed bearings in the trucks. Then you have either dry or very minimally lubed "speed" bearings, raceday bearings, with a minimal ultra thin fast lube. The fast bearings actually have a chance of running dry and seizing,and your truck/axle bearings are there to save the day.
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Floaters
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On 3/2/2006
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
Once upon a time, people did fear that a bearing failure would result in a bad crash, and many of the early guys were using horrible bearings and had cause for concern. If you use decent bearings, you could go a lifetime without having a bearing seize on you. I've never seized a bearing. Lube anyone?
The theory behind floating trucks is a bit bewildering to me. The "solution" to "the problem" doesn't make sense to me. It assumes that 608 bearings produce a certain amount of rolling resistance, and that you want to reduce this resistance. Why would you take more of the exact same type of bearing (and their rolling resistance) and expect them to counter the original resistance? In other words, if our bearings are slow, why add more slow bearings? The extra bearings just add more slop and imprecision.
I think that 608 style bearings properly positioned on strong straight axles provide a great, low cost system for what it is that we do.
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Floating Axles
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On 3/2/2006 Mr Zogs
wrote in from
United States
(167.206.nnn.nnn)
Well, if the axle is not spinning when you spin your wheel, how would they actually help at all? If your bearing is spinning along and all the sudden it seizes, the floating axles are supposed to prevent your wheel from locking up and you going flying. If the bearing seized, I would think, that the wheel would stop spinning for a second or so or just slow down a considerable amount until the axle began to spin at that exact speed that you were going. Wouldn't you still get pitched probably? Or would it just help in that you wouldn't get pitched as hard and theres more chance of not getting hurt if something like that would occur...
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Bennett Casey
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On 3/2/2006
ethan lau
wrote in from
United States
(66.91.nnn.nnn)
I have a pair of the randall luge trucks and if you look at the floating axel when your wheels are spinning, the axel doesnt move,but I gotta say they glide and suck though the corner like you wouldnt belive,also if you want to spend allittle extra $ get the JimZ speed hangers or the Magun trucks depends what you want, turning or stiffness.
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Floaters
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On 2/28/2006
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
I don't like floating axle trucks. They are probably going to be slower for you than a fixed axle truck because you will be obsessed with trying to get your axles to float, and they won't, especially when there is a load on them and/or when you tighten the locknuts which will pinch (and bind) the bearings in the hanger. So you'll leave them loose, which will induce vibration and slop which is slow, and it will diminish the amount of traction and control in the turns which is slower still. They tend to be drilled crooked. It is a pain in the ass to change wheels. They are expensive too.
On the plus side, the axles are stronger and straighter and fatigue less over time. The hanger width is nice for downhill. If money is no object, get a set and plug the hanger ends with plastic inserts with holes that are perfectly centered, and too tight to let the axles spin.
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re: comp2's
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On 2/28/2006 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
unless your on luge, the randal dh's or something similar will serve you perfectly
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Randal R2 vs. Comp 2
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On 2/28/2006
Bennett Casey
wrote in from
United States
(66.57.nnn.nnn)
anyways still no one has answered my question... is the extra cost for the Comp 2's worth it or should i go with a set of R2's. OH and does the floating axel actually make the board faster (kinda of a n00b question).
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On 2/28/2006 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
sry i guess my post belongs in the wheel string but i wanted 2 make sure bennetcasey saw it.
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97'so)
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On 2/28/2006 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
i just ordered some 90mm flys from landy (they're doin a custom jobby on my old evo too) and it'll be my first time racing on anything but krypto 85's- i can't wait to join the bandwagon! my buddy also just got 97mm flys off ebay and let me tell you these things are massive- to offer my two cents, i think you'd be better served with 90mm or smaller. 97's seem a little more like a novelty than a good all around race choice. he's riding a hellcat too- can't wait to see him step on his wheel again and again hehe
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Ooops...
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On 2/27/2006
BennettC
wrote in from
United States
(66.57.nnn.nnn)
Ooops... i ment to say 97mm flywheels
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:)
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On 2/27/2006 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
good luck findng 97mm flashbacks too
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Randal Comp 2
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On 2/27/2006
Bennett Casey
wrote in from
United States
(66.57.nnn.nnn)
as a matter of fact i can't even find a place online that even sales the Randal Comp 2's and there deff. arent any skate shops worth a damn that will cary them in North Carolina
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Randal Comp 2 or R2
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On 2/27/2006
Bennett Casey
wrote in from
United States
(66.57.nnn.nnn)
i allready have a set of randal r2's but i was wondering if buying a set of comp 2's would be worth the extra cash. i plan on doing some serious boming and plan on running abec 11 97mm flashbacks. thanks for the imput. peace
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jimz order!
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On 2/27/2006
snake
wrote in from
Sweden
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hey jamie! yeah ive heard there is expensive to ship them with landyachtz to sweden and the landyactz guy in sweden doesnt seem keen to take them in to me and my friend. i tried jimz (at) kebbek . com but i havnt got a reply. keep searching and please email me if you get any closer to a pair or 2!
erik
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Not Stimulators, but...
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On 2/27/2006 GC
wrote in from
Canada
(70.67.nnn.nnn)
...a step in the right direction? Click here for link
Haven't tried 'em so I don't know what they ride like.
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Radikal Achsen
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On 2/25/2006
sc
wrote in from
United States
(68.4.nnn.nnn)
Radikal trucks, hmmm, well, let's see ...
1. The consensus is that they turn better than other trucks, especially for slalom (This doesn't mean they don't need to be tweaked or broken in). As with many "best" things, there are still people that don't like them.
2. They cost a lot of money because they are milled one-by-one, use expensive materials, have a bunch of fancy little parts stuck in them and (most importantly) people are willing to pay it.
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