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Crail and Force
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On 3/17/2006 Michael
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(87.115.nnn.nnn)
No real point doing Crail or Force when Holeys are better.
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pvd's
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On 3/17/2006 PVD
wrote in from
United States
(130.212.nnn.nnn)
actually:
5 sets of prototypes
30 sets of R2's
11 sets of R3's
i was loosing money. i could deal with that, but one of the biggest issues that i had was the ignorance of the market. real racing hardware costs money. walk into any bicycle or motorcycle store and see. as long as the market belives that $20 trucks are race grade, progress will be damped.
the trucks were also capable of far more than most realized. no one really understood them and no one saw the next logical steps.
http://www.peterverdonedesigns.com/pvdtrucks.htm
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Force in europe
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On 3/17/2006
jawes
wrote in from
Sweden
(217.211.nnn.nnn)
I really need a list of distributors of Crail trucks and Force trucks in Europe..
anyone?
Thanks,
J
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Independent trucks
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On 3/15/2006
Josh Burt
wrote in from
United States
(67.160.nnn.nnn)
I ride Indy 129s on Maryhill all the time. I'm running Avilas, so it makes them as wide as Randal DH with Flywheels. You could ride center-set wheels on 215s and do just fine. I de-wedge the rear truck and wedge the front so they don't wobble. Try some Khiro bushings or the Indy upgrades for more stability.
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indy 215's
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On 3/15/2006
Paul Steuri
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Does anyone use independent 215mm for downhill, because i just am not heavy enough for randalls, and I feel pretty comfertable on these trucks, but mainly because a stupid kid at my school is selling them to me new for 20 bucks!
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loose 150's
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On 3/14/2006
Paul Steuri
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
That is most deffintly possible a few kids I board with ride randall 150'd and sense the bushings are so hard, they have to loosen it so the hanger turns in between the bushings, and I have seen those kids flllyyyyyy. I know for a fact it is possible.
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re:
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On 3/13/2006 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
i agree the dh's are awesome for stuff above 30. for a good all around truck that will carve and handle some speed go with crails or 180's. if you flip the hanger on the 180's they're about the same geometry as crails. as for julien's advice about going 35 on loose 150's... i've been riding downhill long enough to say (and i hardly EVER say this) that he either doesn't know what he's taliking about or he's flat out lying.
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dh trucks
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On 3/13/2006 tyler
wrote in from
United States
(209.158.nnn.nnn)
the dh truck can be very turny and carvable, once you get up to 30 mph that is. That is about the magic number. Before that they feel a little dead, but once you hit that speed, with the right bushing combo, you can carve you heart out.
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Dan The Man
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On 3/12/2006 Craig
wrote in from
United States
(24.6.nnn.nnn)
hey dan,
No the speedometer is not broken.I have only ridden seismics for a couple months and like i said they are great carving trucks....also at speeds with proper skills and spring tension. in the past, for the most park i only skated stock sector nine boards and so i was used to getting wobbles quite often.
I am about to get another set up with some randal trucks. are the r2 180's capable of bombing hills or is it best to go with DH. I have never ridden the DH trucks. My only concern with DH trucks is that they wont be turnable and will feel very foreign under my feet. someone tell me how they ride???
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going fast
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On 3/12/2006
Julien
wrote in from
United States
(24.60.nnn.nnn)
hey dan,
just cuz you can't go fast on loose trucks doesn't mean that other people can't, slalom dudes hit speed in the high 30s on a regular basis riding their trucks loose enough to cut through cones. I've hit 35 on a 33" board with r2 150s and super loose bushings, its all in the head man.
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no way
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On 3/12/2006 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
seismics with yellow springs at 40 mph. no way man. check your speedometer its broken.
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seismic wobbles minimal
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On 3/11/2006 Craig
wrote in from
United States
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Ive ridden seismics for a couple months now and have no negative feedback. ive got 180's set with yellow light springs in front and medium in the back and have bombed hills at 40mph+ and had no wobbles....and thats with very responsive springs. i can only imagine how stable the heavy ones are. over all very satisfied with seismic. thought i would let you fellow downhillers know that they are not just great slalom trucks.
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Randal plates
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On 3/11/2006
jaWes
wrote in from
Sweden
(217.211.nnn.nnn)
Raso..
Dh plates are 35 degrees,
180/150 RII trucks have 50 degree plates stock.
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god dammmmm
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On 3/10/2006
sully
wrote in from
United States
(209.172.nnn.nnn)
.....665 = the neighbor of the beast. at $600. bucks pete was still looseing $'s and dealing with wigglers was far more than he bargained for.
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Logo debate
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On 3/10/2006
K-LEE
wrote in from
United States
(198.133.nnn.nnn)
I remember the debate over the logos. "666, Use Up Your Luck." I also remember everyone that was involved in it. I'd be surprised to find out that any of them were vegan. What does an animal-free diet have to do with that discussion? I think HughR was the most opposed to the 666 logo, due to his Christian faith, and I'm pretty sure he eats meat. Whatever........
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Randal base plates
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On 3/10/2006 Raso
wrote in from
United States
(65.161.nnn.nnn)
Are the Randal 180, 150 and DH base plates the same angle? I think the DH is 35deg?
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PVD trucks
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On 3/9/2006
EricT.
wrote in from
United States
(216.210.nnn.nnn)
I meet Peter last year at our local skatepark and had a great chat with him. I noticed a sweet looking carbon Roe in his truck as asked to check it out. It had his last set of trucks he has on it. He said he made 10 set of the first design and 10 more sets of the 2nd "generation" refined version. The newer version is what he had left and they rode sweeeeeet!! So thats only 20 set total out there! They are an extremely technical truck and probably too "adjustable" for many skaters to sucessfully tune to their potential. But for the tech junkies they are the bomb! I believe he charged around $600 per pair which is about what he spent to make them in the first place. I believe he had trouble selling them at the time and made no money making them, hence thier "disappearance". Too bad they were a little before thier time and are still the most high tech truck I have seen to date. Maybe with more interest these days we could beg Peter to produce another batch?
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Adjustable trucks
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On 3/9/2006 Raso
wrote in from
United States
(69.216.nnn.nnn)
Steve, thats it! PVDs. What happened to the company it seemed that he had a great product.
Thanks again, man. This has been bugging me for weeks.
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Frankentrucks (Indy Stage IX + 1)
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On 3/9/2006
Mile High Mark
wrote in from
United States
(206.124.nnn.nnn)
Indy 215 hangers (Stage IX, faced ends)
Core baseplates
2.25" grade-8 kingpins
Tracker Hourglass bottom bushings
Randal (bottom) top bushings
With wedge risers and side-set wheels (Fu Manchu's), I can basically grind a rail before getting wheelbite on the Ed Economy.
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Mark of the Biotch
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On 3/9/2006
Steve Collins
wrote in from
United States
(65.91.nnn.nnn)
Those trucks were Ground Effects Trucks, by Peter VerDone, otherwise known as PVDs. I think Michael Dong Still rides one as a back truck. Peter stopped making them a few years ago.
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Adjustable Trucks
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On 3/9/2006 Raso
wrote in from
United States
(65.161.nnn.nnn)
A couple years ago I remeber seeing some new, really trick trucks. The hanger angles were completely adjustable. They had adjustable limiters (wheel bite stops) and they were super expensive. I think the logo had a "666" or something. Anybody know who the company is/was?
(side note- Then people were posting complaints about symbols... Indy, Big Red X, 666, blah, blah, blah ... crybaby vegans...)
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r2 vs DH
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On 3/8/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
how are the dh hangers more floppy than r2, you'd think the leverage of the axle length would make the r2's soft and floppy,is it the offset, you run the r2'hangers upside down?
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Randals
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On 3/8/2006 Danny Connor
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Although I don't know much about the racing scene....ha ha ha....
Personally, I like R-II hangers with DH baseplates. Stock DH's always seemed a bit floppy for me, but that's my opinion. I used the mixed set up for a couple of years until I got my floaters. It was Gary Hardwick who turned me onto that set-up. Most racers I know start with the regular DH's and eventually start trying other things. I've also tried lots of bushing set-ups and the combo that has proven itself for me is the regular, black, barrell Randal bushing on bottom, and an "after market" orange, bottom Indy bushing on top. The orange bushings that come stock on Indy's aren't the same (at least not to me) as the orange ones you can buy by themselves. Keep trying new things though because I'm not sure I'm the most reliable source. I still race a regular-ass top mounted wood deck with Randal floaters and the same bushings I've had for years, the last of a dying breed. Have fun! DC
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dh options
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On 3/8/2006 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
whats more popular in the racing scene- stock randal dh's or dh baseplates with 180 hangers? or is it just preference? what are the pros and cons?
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randal bushing duros
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On 3/7/2006
Paul Steuri
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Does anyone know the duros for the yellow and red bushings for randal R2 trucks, or the black bushings for the DH trucks?
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