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Trimming radikal bushings
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On 4/10/2006
Paul Steuri
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
What is the EASIEST and best way to trim radikal bushings so that they fit well?
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TRUCKS!
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On 4/9/2006
caddy
wrote in from
United States
(206.135.nnn.nnn)
indys vs fury?
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Stims
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On 4/9/2006
Adam Daniels
wrote in from
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I'm glad i got a stim collection, every color :)
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Stims cut, uncut...
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On 4/9/2006
PaulW
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(80.3.nnn.nnn)
I ride (er, or did until I smashed my arm) the trimmed stim in some Geezerised trucks on a slalom board: Nice. But what a revelation when I put some uncut stims in some Indy 215s on my Skaterbuilt pig - the most amazing turning I've experienced, and these replaced some hard black Indy bushings too.
Whatever way you take them, those Stims are extra special urethane. If you can get a set to try out, you won't be sorry!
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seismic trucks question
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On 4/9/2006 jim
wrote in from
United States
(68.184.nnn.nnn)
im with dale on this one. i have a 57 inch board and no trucks. i was thinkings about getting seismics. so my question is, what degree should i buy, 30 or 45 degrees or one of each? lastly i like a surfy feeling.
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Dale's Seismics
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On 4/8/2006
Steve in AZ
wrote in from
United States
(130.13.nnn.nnn)
Paul: Good to re-read your posts, bro. The family thing has got me taking a pass at this entire season. I'm gonna miss the hell outta everybody that can't come down to Phx to play. I've since sold the 34" DP PocketPistol, but the R.Seismic thing was working pretty good for me. I still like the one in front, though.
Dale...Since these are the new(er) metal seismics, you can run them with either New School or Old school hole patterns, so you could put them on either of those decks. one of the GREAT things about Seismics is that you can loosely bolt them onto your deck WITHOUT the springs, and from there you'll be able to accurately decide on wedging, spacers, bolt lengths, wheel sizes or even if your truck holes need to be re-drilled so your wheels better line up with the wheelwells or cutouts.
I'm not on NCDSA very much now, so it's only by chance that I'm posting a reply. Please email me directly or at least post your email address so I can get in touch with you. I'll keep your name on these trucks until I hear from you.
-=S=-
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Seismic RE
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On 4/8/2006
Adam Daniels
wrote in from
(72.230.nnn.nnn)
i have fooled around with the wedging...and i found that neg 5* is good for my liking. i can get a ton of power out of the rear end of the board with no slip....unless i dive for a cone(criddle would be better ;)) as for the narrow width, i have tried getting my split-fires and everything really small, but i find them too tippy. right now i think i have my split-fire at about 100mm or 105mm and its just right. but i find when i get to really small traditional trucks, those turn nice when they are skinny.
hope i get to meet you one day! i also hope to own a subsonic....
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Tight Tight Slalom on Seismics
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On 4/8/2006 Pauliwog
wrote in from
United States
(64.5.nnn.nnn)
Adam Daniels- I concur on that one, I have used a Seismic with a 45 degree baseplate as a rear truck on 5' and closer cone distances and it does work well for that. However, I'd suggest cut some sections of 1/8" riser pad and put 1/8" to 1/4" lift at the rear to neg wedge it a little and see what it does for you. You'll lose a smidgeon of turn and slide in the back(gaining traction), but you'll still have the ability to slide when you want and you'll be able to put more power into your pump when you crank the turns in the middle and end of the course. I don't know why but the narrow truck thing does't work for me, anything less than 100mm does'nt seem to give me any advantage, but that could be just me since a lot of T/S types DO like less than 100mm hangers. Just a thought.
Geezer- How many of those Stim's do you REALLY have squirrelled away in you stimulator midden pile? Don't cut ALL those greenies, I use them uncut in my Splitfire Phase I's and Love 'em that way. Adios-P
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geezer
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On 4/8/2006 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
geezer, are you selling those or is that just a pic you have?
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RE: seismic/lathe
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On 4/8/2006
Adam Daniels
wrote in from
(72.230.nnn.nnn)
Paul: the seismic works pretty well for me at 105lbs, and i asked geezer about converting my composite to 8mm but he said it can't be done to the composite. so i think i will eventually get one of the metal ones. i had a really cool idea of a 90mm quick turn seismic for ts....that would be interesting. as for right now i have 75a grippins on it with a split-fire front...all on a 18" wheelbase. great board for running 5ft cones and the rear works great when you need to slide the wheels a bit.
-thanks for the info
geezer: seeing that makes me un-easy in my stomach...i love stims. ever think of taking the thayne that gets shaved off and get it re-melted into more stims?
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Lathe cut Stimulators
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On 4/8/2006
Geezer-X
wrote in from
United States
(151.200.nnn.nnn)
I thought the skateboard truck obsessed masses might enjoy a picture of how it's done...
Stimulators En Brochette
Several passes at max RPM, thin cuts...
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Seismics and Slalom
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On 4/8/2006
Pauliwog
wrote in from
United States
(64.5.nnn.nnn)
Hey Steve!
Here's my observations: I use the 130mm hanger 30 degree baseplate as a rear truck for all G/S and Super G courses(it's also been 8mm axle converted by Eric Wallgren-Monkeywrench Machine Works). It's very stable and very grippy for mostly the same reasons as the much more expensive PVD but not as precisely built, but that's to be expected. If you want the MMW 8mm converted truck, I believe Gesmer at www.seismicskate.com (???). I think it's worth it.
If you use the 45 degree baseplate(new metal or older plastic) as a rear truck, you'll likely need to neg-wedge it 10-15+ degrees.
I ride surf-stance and do not like the Seismic as a front truck because the roll point is too far away from my front foot and so it prodeces a slower reaction. I prefer a "twitchier" front like an RT-X, Indy, or Radikal.
Parallel stancers seem to prefer the 45 degree baseplate as a front truck because of the greater roll distance from the foot which lends itself to the more skiing like turning from the knees and hips.
For a Rear truck on Tight and Hybrid courses I have a MMW 8mm converted, cut-down to 100mm hanger on a 30 degree hanger. I use it once in a while. I generally prefer the Splitfire Phase I(with the Tracker RT-X baseplate). Flitt(www.asphaltplayground.com) is supposed to start making the Phase I again soon.
If you use a Seismic, just keep the kingpin allen wrench handy and make sure you keep it snug and that the C-clip stays on, if the C-Clip comes off, the kingpin will eventually come out. Other than that small inconveniance of monitoring, it's a good stock truck for a rear traction truck for slalom use, but the 8mm MMW conversion adds that extra measure making it better.
Gotta Go- Paul
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crail speed
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On 4/7/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
that's a 45 degree truck, basically handles like a randal dewedged by 5 degrees or radal dh with a 10 degree positive wedge. Randlisque geometry's are all very similar, regular trucks have more variables,offset ,kingpin angles also vary,the kingpin angle changes the turning action of particular pivot angle. But as long as the kingpin is squared to the turning axis ,turning is pretty straight forward a little offset in axle position is really a fairly minor detail,most of the randalike truck seem like close to 0 offset,like a randal dh,so greater angle =greater quickness.
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Crail speed
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On 4/6/2006
Jax (streetluge - SC )
wrote in from
Brazil
(201.34.nnn.nnn)
somebody tested this trucks already?
im wanna to use it for luge
tks for replies
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seismic trucks and steeve
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On 4/6/2006 dale
wrote in from
United States
(68.184.nnn.nnn)
i have a home made 47 inch flat deck with no wheel cut outs. i was not sure what to buy, the 30 Degree or the 45..or one of each. and agian i like a surfy feel. also though i do have a 57 sector 9 board with cut outs. so eather one will be fine to use. i do not know what board would ride the best
thanks, dale
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steve trade
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On 4/6/2006
matt franklin
wrote in from
United States
(24.155.nnn.nnn)
Steve. Sounds like a fair trade. I tried your email. it didn't work for me. please contact.
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Answers for Matt, Andres & Dale
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On 4/6/2006
Steve in AZ
wrote in from
United States
(192.175.nnn.nnn)
Matt:
The GW 2002 was supposed to be a slalom specific truck in the tradition & style of the old Split Axles. It didn't quite work out that way. The geometry is both dead & squirrelly at the same time, and I could not get that front truck to turn the way I wanted it. Plus, adjustment is a Bee-aicth with that stupid (but neccessary) support bracket. That said, I've still to experiment with it as a rear-specific truck with either a Tracker RTX, Indy 101 or even an old Seismic 110 composite front truck. Lemme know if you'd be interested in swapping one of your GW's for something more lively for the front of your ride.
Dale:
Contact me about the trucks for your 47" ride. Seismics can have a surfy feel to them, but only if you ride them with light springs. I LOVE my 180's on my Bozi MBII with Flywheels. Randals are the other way to go, or even some wide-ass trackers. A lot of it is how these trucks FIT your board & the cutouts or wheelwells. I've had to re-drill more than a few decks to get the fit I wanted from the deck, truck & wheel combo I wanted.
Andres:
Same thing. The combo you mentioned sounds fine...but you won't know it until you see the whole thing together and determine whether or not you'll have to run higher risers or do something else that would alter the "feel" of the overall set-up.
-=S=-
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gullwing 2002 advice
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On 4/6/2006
matt franklin
wrote in from
United States
(24.155.nnn.nnn)
I'm putting some gullwing 2002 slalom- "you know the ones" on a goof off deck. any advice for the set up? I'm struggling with these things a little. MF
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sector 9, abec 11, 150mm Randalls
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On 4/6/2006
Andres
wrote in from
United States
(152.20.nnn.nnn)
I want to get a board set-up that would be able to pump like crazy yet still be a descent cruise board. I was thinking a Sector 9 Sumatra 34", Randal II 150mm, and ABEC 11 Gumballs(75A). I wasn't sure if the 150mm's would be too small for the wide gumballs. The Sumatra has forward truck holes though that might allow enough room to prevent wheel bite. What does everyone think?
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Snowplow traction & Adam
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On 4/4/2006
Steve in AZ
wrote in from
United States
(192.175.nnn.nnn)
Hey, SP: Before you try anything else, re-wedge those Bennetts with the steeper wedge in back and the more mellow wedge in front. That'll still be plenty turny for 6'ers.
adam: Pauliwog has been using a R.Seismic with very good TS & Hybrid results for some time now. You go.
Dale: Email me about the Seismics...I have one extra 180mm pair that are sitting in a drawer in my garage that need a home.
-=S=-
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seismic trucks
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On 4/4/2006 dale
wrote in from
United States
(68.184.nnn.nnn)
right now i have original trucks for my 47 inch board. but they broke with in a day. so i was wonder if anyone has used seismic trucks and if they liked them. also i like a "surfy" feel to my board. if i bought them what should i buy
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Seems to work
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On 4/3/2006
Snowplow
wrote in from
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Well it seemed to work. Ran pretty fast through 6 ft OC cones yesterday without losing any traction. I might start narrowing the back truck a little bit each session to see how far I can push it before starting to drift. Speed good.. traction good... hitting cones bad... ah practice!
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RE: traction
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On 4/3/2006
Adam
wrote in from
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right now i am experimenting with a seismic composite in the rear instead of my indy offset.....its a hard decision
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I don't care who knows, I just can't keep it in any longer
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On 4/2/2006
sc
wrote in from
United States
(68.4.nnn.nnn)
Mr. Plow, I have to respectfully disagree with Someone, I don't think a wider back setup will lose you any traction. My experience is that it will add a small amount of traction and stability. The drawback is a loss of turning quickness, not as bad as if it were the front truck, but noticeable. It may be a useful tradeoff in some situations. On the other hand, I mostly agree with Adam that most of your traction issues would be best addressed via wedging & bushings. Keep in mind that if the back is too tight bolt-wise, it might not lean over as much as it needs to to match the front truck. If you're not a rear-steerer, that could mean a major loss of rear traction.
[disclaimer: advice from intermediate, above, to be treated cautiously)
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Oh yeah
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On 4/2/2006
Snowplow
wrote in from
(70.72.nnn.nnn)
Thanks Adam...
I guess I should have said, my trucks are OG Bennett Pros: Front one wedged 15 degrees with one white Khiro barrel bushing (top) and one blue barrel (bottom). Rear truck de-wedged 10 degrees with one blue Khiro barrel (top) and one red barrel (bottom).
Someone told me somewhare else that a wider rear truck would actually give me LESS traction. Is this true? I guess I'll just have to try it today. If I beef, I beef.
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