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the Original angle / Todd's Randals
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On 10/24/2006 John at Swim big
wrote in from
United States
(66.78.nnn.nnn)
First of all, now that I've seen it, I've got to go polish my Randals like that! Those are amazing!
But more importantly, I'm looking at carving trucks for a new deck we're working on so I'm thinking Revenge or Originals. We've prototyped this deck with Randal 180's on wedges thick-end-out and got really nice carving, but the ride height is a little sketchy. The Revenge trucks look like they might have a Randal-esque 45 degree pivot angle, but does anyone know what the Original's pivot angle is? Is it similar to a Randal, or more vertical / stable / so more deck lean like an Indy or a Randal Downhill? I'm leaning toward the Original (no pun intended) with its lower ride height and because of the wider hanger option, limiting wheel bite.
TODD with your Randals - you've probably gotten them by now, but a few thoughts: If you're mostly cruising on this board you might want 150's for more kicking clearance, unless you're using narrow and/or center-set wheels. Also, unfortunately, Sector 9 wheel wells aren't cut for Randals, they're up close to the bolts for "standard" trucks so be careful with your wheel diameter. I haven't tried the Holeys, but I really like the way they look... kinda pricey for a polished Randal, though.
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Randal
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On 10/23/2006 X
wrote in from
United States
(72.78.nnn.nnn)
I got Randals on this pig of a luge. I actually learned to luge on this one, and adjusted the kingpin 1/4 of a turn till she was perfect. New bushings, pivot cup and cup washers really helps. I underestimated the pivot cup!
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Fyre at will
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On 10/22/2006
sc
wrote in from
United States
(68.99.nnn.nnn)
I rode Chaput's most current prototype slalom trucks today. They're even better than I expected. They keep the geometry and elastomer standards that we've become dependant on but add significant improvements in a number of key areas. You're going to love them. I think these ones are going to see the market. Get ready for something new and better, from this side of the pond.
FYI - I don't work for guy and I pay for my wheels like everybody else. I just thought y'all would be interested to know that there's gonna be a new truck on the block.
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thank god
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On 10/22/2006 nic
wrote in from
United States
(68.99.nnn.nnn)
oh what would the world be with out randals?
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sidewinder trucks
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On 10/18/2006
garry
wrote in from
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i like randal trucks but the sidewinder trucks are amazing. you can turn with randals but you can turn even tighter turns with ease with the sidewinders. there great but you can't buy them separately. i got to save up about $200 now.
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All Around Trucks
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On 10/16/2006
Thomas
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
Todd - I like Randals, but I love Holey trucks. The only significant differences are: 1) The bushings! - beautiful, big translucent red hourglass shaped lower bushing really lets you push the limits on carving 2) The appearance - these are very distinct and attractive trucks that will certainly draw attention 3) The hangar is symmetrical so, although you cannot flip it, there is no reason to since the trucks are very versitile and can outcarve and bomb as well as a Randal. These are excellent all-around trucks. For the perfect combination of agility, stability, and style, I wouldn't run anything else under my deck.
P.S. with the standard cupped washer setup, you'll need a 1/4" riser to prevent wheelbite.
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Randall 180s or 150s
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On 10/15/2006
Todd
wrote in from
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Hi, looking into getting some new trucks to use as all round cruising and downhill trucks. From what i can read the randal's look to be the go but i'm not sure if i should be going with the 180 or 150 wide model. They will be going on a sector nine cloud nine deck most likely.
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Sector TriLam
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On 10/15/2006 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(69.165.nnn.nnn)
JJ, that's a torsionally stiff deck, so expect Immediate turn response from it. Also note that Flex Decambering won't be an issue in turning; The board will flex some, but not distort the turn radius like, say, a Flexdeck would by oversteering under pressure. Width wise, I'd stay kinda narrow, in the 5"-4" between the wheels range.
That all said, Randle 150's come out as a great all-around cruise/turny truck for this deck, just pick bushings and wedges with care. SEismics might be too responsive 'from off of center', so; If you Bomb hills, maybe not; If you love Carving or want a quick-turn response, then these are really hard to beat. Great for urban pumping,too. Tracker's Extrack comes to mind as a stable, versatile and totally solid truck. It's only weakness is the relative lack of grindable depth in the hanger (Copers are really hard to find for these, but worth having if you grind). Add wedges and maybe change bushings to improve the turn tightness. I'm optimistic about the "new" Bennetts, as the Vector of old Ripped in it's grindablility, turniness, and general ease of handling. Haven't been on the new ones, so, wait 'till you hear about them...
Fury also comes to mind as a solid, turny, but well made truck. Bushings may need some Khiro or DohDoh love on those. Lastly, look in the oldschool sites for the uber-cruiser truck, Motobuilt. These are un-obtainium, but so nice to carve/cruise/grind and they'll bomb hills with a good bushing refit.
Pay attention to your riding style; Adjust bushings and wedges accordingly. The board will do pretty much what you ask of it, as long as it has some gravitational forces to play with. With wheels, be ready to have 2-3 sets of various durometers, just deal with the speed/grip you want for 'that hill' or 'that street'.
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polished randals
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On 10/15/2006 cam
wrote in from
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nice trucks but how did you get them so shiny? can it be done at home for a reasonable price? thanks
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Randal Comp2
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On 10/14/2006 Da Tiger Designs
wrote in from
United States
(68.96.nnn.nnn)
After polishing my Randal R2s at the last bonnelli many people had trouble believing they were even randals, they claimed they were euro knock offs. well here's my Randal Comp 2s. Polished. Full-on.
can you see yourself in your trucks??? Sony Mavica, og Bling***
shoots!!!
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trucks?
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On 10/14/2006
JJ
wrote in from
United States
(69.181.nnn.nnn)
i just got a nex sector carbon trylam.....and I wanted to know whick kind of trucks i should put on it.........
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mhm
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On 10/12/2006 dan
wrote in from
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mark r u gunna have jimmys hangers too?
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JimZ bushings
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On 10/12/2006
Mile High Mark
wrote in from
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The JimZ bushings are very nice bushings. I've ridden them, and they work beautifully in Crails. I haven't tried them in Randal DH's, but I suspect the bushing cavity might be a tad small for the JimZ's.
Oh, and when we can get them, we charge ~$22 for a board's worth.
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can not imagine
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On 10/12/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
bushings worth that kind of dough. If your working for 8 an hour and busting your back ,send them back. If you bill your time at 150 an hour and work sitting at a desk,thinking about someone elses business problem(consultant) and dictating your ideas to someone else who types,maybe the bushings are cool, let us know.
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bushings
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On 10/11/2006 steve
wrote in from
United States
(204.110.nnn.nnn)
I ordered some Jim Z bushings enough for 2 Randal DH trucks along with other stuff.When I got the invoice they charged me 32 bucks for the bushings. I called them and they said yes 16 per truck.I haven't tried them yet.thinkng about sending them back. Can someone tell me that there worth it.
I first wrote this with more detail but got spam blocked.
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Oh, a rasper
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On 10/11/2006 Sven
wrote in from
United States
(68.171.nnn.nnn)
A rasper! Excellent, thank you very much. Now, to find a rasper in the jungle of my garage/ work-area-thing. I think i'll stick to what I've got, because I love the feel of the board and the trucks and wheels alltogether. If I get a winfall, however, I may splurge on another set of trucks, wheels, bearings, and a speedboard. Thanks again
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Recommendations?
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On 10/11/2006
Bug
wrote in from
(57.80.nnn.nnn)
Hi guys. I originally posted this in the pre-1980 Forum but have since been poking around the NCDSA site & realized this is probably the correct place. I’ve got a FibreFlex Slalom board that I want to set up just for cruising around. I’m not sure what you’d call it; maybe sidewalk surfing? I’m NOT interested in any competition or skate park riding, just casual stuff around the neighborhood & maybe the occasional parking garage. Anyway, I think I want to go with Trackers in either an 85mm or 106mm length. I want something that’s agile for turning but not twitchy or divey, & I’d also like it to be relatively stable on moderate downhills.
Right now I’ve got 106mm Tracker RaceTracks on it (RTX in front & RTS in back) with 1/8” flat shock pads & 3dm 62mm wheels (about 85 duro in front & 78 duro in back). This setup seems pretty good if I’m just doing casual, wide carves, but when I push the board into a hard 180 turn I get into trouble. It turns predictably about 2/3 of the way, but then dives in real sharp at the end of the turn. One of the guys on the pre-1980 Forum suggested the board’s flex is multiplying the turney quality of the RTX up front.
I think the flex of the board says I should really avoid the 85mm width, but I was wondering what you guys thought. I’ve also been reading thru some of the last few months’ posts in the Trucks Forum & it seems like I should either swap out the front RTX with an RTS (to match the rear), or just switch over to FullTracks. In the 85mm width the geometry of the RaceTracks RTS & MidTracks are nearly identical & only the bushings are different. But in the 106mm width the FullTracks look a bit more relaxed. Does anyone have any experience &/or opinions of the riding differences between the 106mm RTS & the FullTracks? Any other suggestions or opinions on which trucks to go with?
Thanks for any help!
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Carver CX on a Carve 39
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On 10/11/2006 Derik
wrote in from
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I just mounted my Carver CX/C2 under my Gravity 39. I had to add 0.6 inch of riser and rasped the wheel wells a little longer to match the CX, but will still get a little wheel bite in verry sharp turns.
The combination is extremly surfy. I had the trucks mounted on a flat board before for long distance pumping. Compared with the flat deck the trucks feel much turnier, now. I guess, it's the concave that adds pressure on the rails. The huge kick of the Board allows good control of the tail, so its easy to slide out my soft 74A Moskas in sharp turns. I would not recomend this setup for long distances, because the concave will hurt your toes. But it‘s awesome for a short surf style workout before work.
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wells is easy
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On 10/11/2006 Derik
wrote in from
(145.254.nnn.nnn)
Hi Sven,
I made the wheel wells with a rasp and smoothed them with sandpaper. I rasped the board down to two plys where the wheels contact the board.
That took me less than one hour. Now I can ride 70mm wheels with Randal 150 and soft Bushing and a just thin shockpad. Before rasping I uses a 1/8 inch riser.
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Hmmm
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On 10/10/2006 Sven
wrote in from
United States
(68.171.nnn.nnn)
Thanks for all the feedback. I really appreciate it.
I've come to wondering whether I should just drop another $78 and get 72mm Gravity Super Gs, some cheap ass bearings, and Randall 150s, stick all that on the Gravity 39" Carve and build myself a speedboard, dropthrough and all.
My gravity, because I bought it through thelongboardstore.com (so I didn't have to pay for shipping), did not have wheel wells, so I am stuck there as well. Another plan of mine is to possibly make wheel wells (somehow) and avoid needless spending, because I'd rather have wheelbite than not have a car. I may just tighten the trucks, put in some wheel wells, stick a 1/4"-1/2" wedge on the front and a 1/2" riser on the back, and just deal with an ultra high board. Maybe in the spring, when the roads dry out I can devote more time and money to this, but rain and snow season is appraoching, so why spend money on something I can't use 'till spring. Things to think about.
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Splitfire Pros
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On 10/10/2006
Pat
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(86.144.nnn.nnn)
Chris-I recently set up a hybrid/special board (Pavel Gunner, 84/81 Grippin's)using the wider Splitfire Pros and they are outstanding. I'm a big fan of normal Splitfire's but these are something else. They are totally precise, extremely fast and the back truck seems to give incredible traction. Can't reccommend them highly enough.
Pat
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Magnetic trucks
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On 10/8/2006
James (maddogg)Morris
wrote in from
(69.210.nnn.nnn)
Just look at what we have now skateboards that help push themselves, sounds like something from back from the future (lol) Longboarders got love it.
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new Bennets
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On 10/7/2006 tc
wrote in from
United States
(207.215.nnn.nnn)
anyone got them? anyone riding them?
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Randals on a Gravity 39" Carve
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On 10/5/2006 Derik
wrote in from
(145.254.nnn.nnn)
I ride the same board with Randals 150. The wheelwells are made for conventional trucks, so they don‘t match the Randals with their shorter wheelbase. I just grinded them half inch longer to the inner. On another Board I drilled new holes, so that the wheelbase with Randals is the same as with Indys.
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Splitfires
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On 10/4/2006
Chris Miller
wrote in from
United States
(64.128.nnn.nnn)
I see on the asphaltplayground site that Fluitt is selling splits with bearing inserts. Has anyone tried them? How do they compare to a Radikal up front? I run splits on my GS board now and I am thinking of upgrading. How are they for tight too?
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