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are Randal 180 Trucks & Wheels good or bod
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On 5/2/2007
ryaneta
wrote in from
United States
(24.113.nnn.nnn)
i am a noob (3 months) at longboarding and i heard about the Randal 180 Trucks & Wheels are they really good,bad,or just ok????
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that bad?
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On 4/30/2007 OMS
wrote in from
United States
(68.116.nnn.nnn)
Sam,
Have you ridden the Alpine's? I remember the old heavy 80s Gullwings, gave the co. a bad rep I'd say. I love my randals, I also love my Gullwing M1s for carving up the skatepark. Can't imagine that they're that bad.
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what happened to...
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On 4/28/2007
cam
wrote in from
Australia
(220.233.nnn.nnn)
...the old chrischaput.com?
i miss is
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answer
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On 4/22/2007 Sam of NY
wrote in from
United States
(68.193.nnn.nnn)
randal 180's
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randals vs. gullwing alpine
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On 4/22/2007
2_ro
wrote in from
United States
(72.199.nnn.nnn)
i have a question.
which trucks are bettert?
gullwing alpines, or randal 180?
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DH flipping
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On 4/19/2007
Sam of NY
wrote in from
United States
(68.193.nnn.nnn)
If you flip the hanger on the DHs it won't lower the center of gravity like if would on the R IIs. but you could probably still flip it and have everything run fine. I've never tried it with mine because I read it doesnt lower the board from Chaput's old site, but it might ride slightly different because of something else, I just haven't seen it done before.
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bushings
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On 4/19/2007 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
randal bushings were kind of crappy,but they would break up in days,even minutes. Adjusting a truck a little every couple of weeks doesn't seem like a really big deal,but if lets say you had to tighten your trucks a half a turn every two weeks for the last half year, you'd be 6 threads down the kingpin. If your not, then the nut is backing off,maybe you need a new locknut.
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Randal DH
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On 4/18/2007 Dudemanbro
wrote in from
United States
(4.246.nnn.nnn)
Can you flip the hangar on a Randal DH like you can the R II to gain some stability?
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randal bushings
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On 4/18/2007 nic
wrote in from
United States
(65.44.nnn.nnn)
are the randal bushings known for beiing s#@!ty casuse ive had my randals for a bout a year and it feels like my truck loosens itself so i have to tighten my truck every couplr of weeks
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stuck bearings
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On 4/18/2007 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
I've had bearings stuck,and my go to method is razor blades,i carefully line up an old razor blade with the seam between the bearing(inner race) and the hanger,first a thin blade, then a blade out of one of those utility knives(they're a bit thicker) if the bearing moves a bit and is still stuck you can stack the blades.
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Axles
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On 4/18/2007 Michael
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(87.114.nnn.nnn)
If MArtins solution doesnt work... try heating the bearing with a little blowtorch, or kitchen Creme brulee torch. try to heat the bearing only or rather get that hotter than the axle. Id put some wd40 0r bearing lube on it for a night beforehand.
Or remove the axle. one way is to put two bolts on the axle end to wedge against each other so you can then unscrew the axle out. then try to gett he bearing out that way.
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airflow OS truck
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On 4/18/2007
martin siegrist
wrote in from
Switzerland
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kind of easy to say 'the others' mistreated your skateboard...
this here is an advice to everybody who's riding precise 8mm axles. take away the wheels regularly and lube the axle bolts. certain products need maintenance and the airflow OS truck is one of these products. if you really need to ride in wet or winter salty conditions please lube your axles before you mistreat them!
now how to get the wheel off: take two screwdrivers. try to squeeze them in between bearing and hanger. use both screwdrivers at the same time in order not to twist the bearing.
in case it doesn't work we got some new hangers shipped to sk8kings.com today!
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igubal
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On 4/15/2007 hc
wrote in from
United States
(71.139.nnn.nnn)
jamie, good find, but i think herbn might be right..
pithaya, try a gear puller
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Getting wheel out of axle
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On 4/15/2007 Pithaya
wrote in from
Canada
(24.201.nnn.nnn)
Hello, Im looking for a little help. My slalom board was "borrowed" from my room while I was sleeping. It was mistreated and there seems to be some corrosion on my airflow axle. I could get one wheel off with wd40 and a lot of pulling. There was very slight rust but it rubbed of with the abrasive side of a sponge.
The other wheel is still stuck and I cant get it out. Any tips?
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polymer bearings
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On 4/15/2007 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
looks like they're mostly for the baseplate, not between the bushing,not a whole lot of angular movement
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Do it yourself bearing trucks
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On 4/15/2007
Jamie M.
wrote in from
Canada
(70.49.nnn.nnn)
If you really want to experiment with your trucks, check this out!http://www.igubal.com/Main_fs.asp?KATALOG=XIGLIDUR&GO=STAN&FILE=N051200E.htm
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Holey Bushings in a Randal Truck
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On 4/14/2007 Derik
wrote in from
Germany
(89.58.nnn.nnn)
Try it, its great! I use the big bushing without a washer and the small top-bushing with a flat plastic-washer (the cut-off top of a bones hardcore). I greased the bushings with a little Brunox, the stuff that mountainbikers use to keep their suspension smooth. (It's oil-less and does not affect the bushings).
The deck tilts so much smoother and even a little more (like 5mm less space between the rail and the wheel) than with the stock bushings.
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Floating spherical bearing
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On 4/12/2007 clyde
wrote in from
United States
(131.191.nnn.nnn)
-First, the bearings are still not that small. One would still have to bore out the center cavity in the truck. This would cause only the slight rim of the bushings to have any affect on the truck. For the top cone bushing, there would be basically no urethane, causing the truck to be way loose.
-Second, the newly bored out cavity in the hanger would just rotate around the bearing because they are not connected. The bearing would just stay stationary in the kingpin causing it to be completely pointless.
-In the end one would just have an overly loose heavier version of their original truck.
*Trust me, it doesn’t float.
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it floats
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On 4/10/2007
sc
wrote in from
United States
(68.4.nnn.nnn)
For the floating bearing to work, it has to have a much smaller OD than the bushings. The ID of the hole in the hanger is just slightly larger than the bearing, so they can move independently. The compression of the bushings that keeps them seated in the hanger also keeps the bearing perfectly aligned in the hanger. It all definitely works.
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Floating spherical bearing
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On 4/10/2007 clyde
wrote in from
United States
(131.191.nnn.nnn)
I don't think that the floating spherical bearing idea would actualy work. Because the bearing would have to be connected to the hanger. If it wasn't connected, than the bushings would be giving no resistence to anything at all. They would just be sandwitched between this bearing that isnt even connected to anything. This would result in the hanger to be completely floppy with no resistence from the bushings, because they are not in contact to the hanger.
So nate, don't ruin perfectly good trucks. Save your money.
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floating
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On 4/10/2007
hc
wrote in from
United States
(71.139.nnn.nnn)
nate, that's some truck love right there...
machinist, I am not sure I get the floating idea,
a radikal style hanger does place some weight on the bottom bushing, (correct?)
so it is absorbing some vibration. (but none at the pivot)
does chaput's fyre place weight on the bottom bushing? anyone?
if it doesn't, isn't it essentially a fixed axis truck with no vibration absorbtion?
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Spherical Bearing
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On 4/10/2007 nate
wrote in from
United States
(131.191.nnn.nnn)
Hey Machanist, i would just like to say u r a complete genieus. I m now going to bore out my Force C7's a little now and put in a floating spherical bearing. To be honest, if i knew u, i would make sweet sweet love to u.
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Three axles on Luges
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On 4/4/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.69.nnn.nnn)
I started using 3 trucks back in 1980 to reduce speed wobbles. What I'd do is set the middle truck up so that it turned a little bit quicker (using a 2* wedge) and ran just slightly softer bushings (or tension in the bushings) than the lead truck. The difference in tensioning means that iF a truck oscillates enough to wobble, it'll be at a different speed/frequency than the other truck; Hopefully that buys you some recovery time when the Wobs hit. The lead truck was snugged down enough to be just a little sluggish at lower speeds. That's fine, though, because in tighter turns, I'd pull myself forward on the sled (to shorten footpeg distance, thus bending the knees a little) and roll my shoulder inside to 'hook-up' the turn, slide back and get myself more 'straight'(even pointing the toes) to reduce air drag on the straights. Another two bennies to using 3 trucks is you get 6 wheels, which means more grip, and you also have a slight bit of added safety in case you toss/melt a wheel (well, up front at least). With the traction, you gotta understand that 3/5ths of your weight is over the front wheel area on a luge, so you want extra traction there. Also, wide wheels can be slower than narrower wheels (well, this WAS the case 10-15 years ago; Now there are Flywheels,Speedvents,Avilas, and Gumballs, so...) , so instead of fat old C-Series Kryptos, I'd run Hyper Mundos (39mm wide) or Bullet Roadweapons(37mm wide) for less rolling drag, but still trying for decent grip. Now, we're past using those narrow-core wheels for the most part, and those that are out there no longer Melt at 70mph, but they used to. Having that extra axle and pair of wheels saved my bacon a few times. I have yet to melt an ABEC 11, but it was routine with the old Quad-Rollerskate type wheels.
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3 truck luge design
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On 4/4/2007
Andrew Durst
wrote in from
United States
(69.108.nnn.nnn)
So i am wondering why so many luges have a 3 or even 4 truck design. what are the positives and negatives?
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spherical bearings
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On 4/4/2007
hc
wrote in from
United States
(71.139.nnn.nnn)
i did a google search and found this...
http://www.igus.com/igubal.asp
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