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Santa Cruz
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On 3/6/2008 Tim
wrote in from
Australia
(58.172.nnn.nnn)
Vintage man my e mail is timphoto@bigpond.com.au The green bushes in the Gulls are not original. I do have real ones but they have perished and I had these trucks mounted on a Sims Superlite that I was riding. Didn't like the feel of the gulls so put some old trackers on it to ride. The lazers I just assumed were correct. They were on them when I bought the setup from a Mr Wolf at Wolf creek in Canada. Love that as Wolf Creek in the name of a very scary movie made here in Australia. I think I payed about 300us for that as a complete. Out of all my decks in my small collection it gets the most looks from people not into skateboards. Just a beautiful color. The yellow one was bought as a NOS deck only. It now has NOS red Rad Pads.
These 2 pics show the Gulls on a Sims and my collection. There is Bara's Super Bee ICK up there now and my PPS GS Hybrid. Love the Ick. Just had a ride this afternoon on that one.
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Tim's Santa Cruz
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On 3/5/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
Tim, I tried to email you directly, but seems your
email is lacking the server name... FYI... :---)
Santa Cruz decks WOW BEAUTIFUL!!
I always thought Lazer came with BLUE BUSHINGS...
If look at my Santa Cruz pics below yours on NCDSA.com
See My Lazer Trucks, and are EXACTLY like yours, even down
to the blue perfect fitting risers for the Lazer Baseplate!!
So that mystery is now solved for me... I got orignal to deck stuff!!
Are your bushings original on the gullwings?... Regardless,
are a very cool green color with that deck...
Lazers and Gullwing Trucks sure look off the shelf brand new!!
As do the decks...
Thanks for showing us your fancy stuff! As the kids say: SWEET!!!
Vintage man
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More Santa Cruz
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On 3/5/2008
Tim
wrote in from
Australia
(58.172.nnn.nnn)
A couple more Santa Cruz's from the 70's.
All NOS except for the Hesters on the yellow one.
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wow!
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On 3/4/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(71.127.nnn.nnn)
this reminds me, i have a board of very vintage origin, the paint on top has all but disappeared,it appears to have the smallest specks of red and blue,i sort of fell like it may have been a british flag. The trucks are definitely a sawed in half roller skate base, but the bolting/riviting looks professional though far from perfect,one of the wheels has enough graphic remaining to make out "made in great britian",any idea's,pic coming up.
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Pre 1960 decks
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On 3/4/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
I cannot take credit for the purchase
and collection of what your eyes are gonna
feast on!! I can though take credit for bugging
this guy via emails for 2 years to display his
300 deck collection... All in C8 condition or better!!
He hung up these this weekend.. Have no idea if
divorce proceedings are proceeding. But that is not
my area of expertise... I am simply a motivator of people :--)
Hats off to the real vintage guys whom recognize some of these completes!!!
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amazed..
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On 3/4/2008
Liam Fourie
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(90.201.nnn.nnn)
This forum rocks! i really enjoy checking all this old collectable stuff.. more pictures! i got given an old Hobie Flex in mint condition and it's my most precious thing in the whole world. I will post a photo some day for you guys to look at.
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Burg and gullwing truck weight
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On 3/4/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(199.67.nnn.nnn)
Per the NCDSA webmaster, I decided to weigh these puppies...
By the way, he was right and I was quite wrong!!
Pittsburgh 2.75lbs!! Gullwing 1.75lbs approx weight.
I thought would be close to same weight as Gullwings are so big.
My oh my... Must have been heavy lifting to lug those pittsburgh trucks
attached to your deck, back up a hill!!
Although I guess we had more spring in our step 30 yrs ago!
I will post another interesting pair of trucks I have this weekend!!
Keep on Keeping On...
Joe Dirt
cheers
Vintage Man
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original originals
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On 3/3/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(71.251.nnn.nnn)
they seem like the great grand dad of original trucks, how's the market treating originals these days,yandall was totting them for a while as thee skogging trucks,not so much recently.
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heavy hitter
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On 3/3/2008 shapeshifter
wrote in from
United States
(207.229.nnn.nnn)
as i remember them, pittsburghs were cast iron assemblies with a brass cam which applied pressure to a single natural rubber bushing. being way too heavy, having a high profile, and relying on metal to metal contact, they had a problem of rattling when set loosely. applying oil to the cam caused premature breakdown to the natural rubber bushing. though a nice piece of history otherwise.
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Just another Pittsburgh Truck pic
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On 3/1/2008 PG
wrote in from
United States
(24.216.nnn.nnn)
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Pittsburgh Skateboard Trucks
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On 3/1/2008
Adam
wrote in from
United States
(208.64.nnn.nnn)
Mannn..! I've been waiting years for a good image of Pittsburgh trucks to be posted! At least one of my 1977 posse in No. VA rode them, probably on a Fibreflex with RR2's. I've got some Magnum trucks from a local garage sale pictured in one of these forums years ago. They used a similar torsion turning mechanism, it seems.
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Pittsburgh Skateboard Trucks
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On 3/1/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
Now I still want to hear more stuff like Herbin's imput!!
I simply thought the Gullwings look cool so collected. Any
more stories or experience or knowledge on Dem Gullwings??
PITTSBURGH TRUCKS!! Who has any?? Mine are attached $80 off ebay!!
Long story... I am a diehard steelers, pirates fan, so saw em in
every skateboard mag back in the day!! I attached my if I be so bold
to call it Artistic interpertation of that famous magazine ad. Did they
sell any??? Anyone got Pittsburgh Truck Stories?
Lordy, they advertised in every issue!!
Pulp Fiction is da bomb :----) Pigs are filthy animals, but bacon tastes good!
Love you honey bunny, Neds dead baby, Le Big Mac, Ezekiel 25:17 passage I
got memorized, Vincent, Jules, Marsellus, The Wolf.. Crank caller Crank caller!
Yes sipping a tasty beverage, Rum with blended fresh Strawberry, Peach, added apple juice over ice.. Nor California is 70 degrees slightly sunny..
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Bara's Ick Stick
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On 3/1/2008
Paul Howard
wrote in from
United States
(65.122.nnn.nnn)
Hey Chris, If noone has grabbed that setup yet, email me with the "name-click email thingy"(I'd do the same but I only have internet at work and we're firewalled from using it). I really don't know what that is worth but let me know how much you want for it. We just bought our first house so the money's tight but I might put a crowbar into my wallet for that. If someone has made a good offer already, go ahead and sell to them, otherwise let me know how much you want. Thanks - Paul
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first first
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On 3/1/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(67.83.nnn.nnn)
i thought the green bushings were first,but the unconed reds definitely ring up a distant memory. Were there early kingpins with out the post for the reinforcement bracket?i always thought the bracket was hideous in comparison to the rest of the truck.all i have left is a hanger with no axles and baseplate. i remember painting my original set black,one of youths' follies.
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Gullwing Truck Collection
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On 2/29/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
Don't Tase Me Pro... Attached picture are `my version of
the Gullwings Skateboarder Magazine ad 1977, maybe 1978...
All three models, Gold Split, Chrome Split and a Pro models.
Actually they had a Phoenix vs a Chrome split I think. Oh well.
Note the Gullwing Pro with its straight up and down kingpin
versus the typical angle kingpin.. Gold is a first issue w/red bushings!
So I never owned back in the day nor rode em back in the Day. Easy to ride? Look bulky to me. Easy to work on? So many moving parts on the split tails!
Any opinions, experience.. Who knows how many different styles made
from 1975-79 or their pre 1980 styles. I thought 3 till recently. Its 5+??
Cheers Vintage Man Love to here from the pros. Maybe others would? :---)
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Vintage Mans SC
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On 2/27/2008
BARA
wrote in from
United States
(68.84.nnn.nnn)
That's a nice plank Santa Cruz....those do pop up on Ebay from time to time...I dont really think they made tons of them, but they're so damn durable that there are still some out there....If that one wasnt refinished, its the nicest i've seen..
i'd guess 74-75....if it was 73, it'd have the smaller pattern....here's a 73 Ick Stick...from what i know, it's the last of it's kind and the oldest slalom board still in existence...Rick Howell actually made it in middle school and remembers the board...set up exactly as he said it was set originally, Excalibers and Metaflex Surfers...Hand rolled resin over oak..."Ick Stick" made from rice paper......
http://www.icksticks.com/history/
And it's for sale if anybody wants to make a good offer on it....time to let it go to somebody that's collecting rarities
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What's the name of my '70s Santa Cruz deck
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On 2/27/2008 John
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(86.27.nnn.nnn)
Does anybody know the correct name of my Santa Cruz deck? Looking in 1978 issues of Skateboard magazine I've come to the conclusion that it is a Santa Cruz proflex cutaway. Is this correct?
It is set up with Tracker mids and G&S wonkers. The board to the left is an inverted G&S bowlrider.
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early tracker evolution
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On 2/27/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(71.127.nnn.nnn)
kind of odd really. Everybody else,indy,lazer,bennett,ect ect ,went from narrow to wide,but tracker started wide went to half track then a bit wider and then all the way to ex and six track with fatter pivots.Oh yeah i think california slalom may have made mid widths for fifteen minutes on their way out. Which sort of reminds me of another ebay item,a rather beat on binniak that no one seems to be jumping at buy buying for a thousand dollars,it has two sets of holes,this indicates to me that the board was probabely set up originally with california slaloms,the boards came undrilled and that's the only truck with that old small hole pattern,that would be sort of a correct width for that board,i'm not exactly sure why someone would choose the small hole pattern,but converting to the larger pattern was totally simple with those baseplates, i would guess trackers went on next.
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older one Santa Cruz
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On 2/26/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(199.67.nnn.nnn)
Herbin per your questions.
Was told 2 yrs ago,via Santa Cruz Corp was made 1975-ish.
Per others, told me that Tracker halfs and probably Road Riders
were probably original to deck especially if bot from Santa Cruz Corp.
Was suggested via the same grapevine I hook up with
www.ncdsa.com and make an all points bulletin cry for tracker halfs.
Got a fabulous reply/purchase,and stay in contact with that member today!
I used green color wheels just because I liked how they look against the
wood color and already have Road Rider Reds on other SC Decks. Wheels I think
made 1977-78. Feel just like Road Rider Reds. Its possible OJs could be used
as well if trying to stay era specific...Nuts/bolts/screws are from a 1976ish deck and the bearings similar year.... Its possible I am mixing up vocabulary regarding Tracker Halfs and Tracker Mids. I forget which is the more narrow truck. I am at my professional working man office of career choice in the Banking institution. I get confused during these hours easily... Would much rather be playing with skateboards vs trying to cover mortgage and other grown up expectations of me!!
Cheers
Vintage Man
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sorry
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On 2/26/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(67.83.nnn.nnn)
your collection is cool and in excellent shape. perhaps you misread or misunderstood or maybe i wasn't clear enough, i almost compared it to early ick stick models i've seen ,many board companies started in garages or in high school shop,mighty fine stuff can come out of basements and garages,calling something a shop project is (to me) not necessarily a negative,but it just has that "look". I believe it to be original,although i didn't notice that board as a background in later ads. Tell me, in 1973 there was no skateboard mag, this was before most every other mass produced skateboard industry, wouldn't it be accurate to decribe santa cruz as a cottage industry,that essentially means basement or garage,standard pattern letters(not slanted or triangle A) routed into solid ash or oak, no dedicated mold to press plys, no printing of graphics,all things that are endearing. Did the board have trackers on it i'm pretty sure trackers were 75ish wasn't the hole pattern originated by them?Totally 73 would be x calibers ,chicago's, suregrip or rollersports, i have a rollersports cataloge in my magazine collection i never ordered anything but i sent away for it from an ad i saw in "boys life" magazine, probabel 1974, i believe it to be the proverbial seed of my skateboarding interest.
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The old one
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On 2/26/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(192.193.nnn.nnn)
Herbin, you write displaying a lack of
knowledge and in a disrespectful way..
Not really appreciated. You hog the site with
your interests, yet seem to not like interests of
others. Its an ORIGINAL 1973-ish to 1975 Santa Cruz
Deck... If look in Mid 1976-77 Skateboarder Mags you can
see this model in the ads in the background on the rocks
of Santa Cruz with all their new and improved models...
NO WAY nor NO HOW does this look like a cheap woodshop model.
Its beautiful, original, and in C8++ condition. Value is
approx $175 to $275 depending on buyer desire of course.
Again Herbin, maybe its your humor, but this is the 2nd time you
have made a childish error and written with disrespect about my
collection. Maybe just stay off the site with things you don't
understand or like.... Love Mom
Vintage Man
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the old one
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On 2/25/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(67.83.nnn.nnn)
the one on the left,needs a bit of explanation to me, that looks pre magazine, pre ad, possibly highschool definitely garage or basement project? Actually it looks like it might be a santa cruz version of all those dogtown tribute boards we all made.
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Kriptonics Star-Trac wheels - clear red
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On 2/25/2008
laurie18
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(194.223.nnn.nnn)
Still looking to buy some of these rare wheels. Set of 4 NOS would be nice but would be happy with a single used wheel. Cash or have interesting vintage bits and pieces to trade.
Thanks
laurie
UK
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My Santa Cruz 1970s Decks
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On 2/24/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
Most of the trucks, wheels, bushings,
screws, nuts, bolts, all era specific...
Color coordinated for Blue and Gold Cal colors,
or to personal taste :---)
Enjoy
Vintage Man
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santa cruz board
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On 2/22/2008
buddy rawls
wrote in from
United States
(128.158.nnn.nnn)
scaling dimensions, based on the truck mounting holes, the width comes in around 7 3/4 to 7 7/8, which would put the board right in the range for a late 77/ early 78 set-up. early 77, it aint. The picture is definitely squished down, the vertical and horizontal scaling are not even close to the same, they were about 10-12% different.
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