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What year?
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On 4/12/2008 GT from Norcal
wrote in from
United States
(69.181.nnn.nnn)
Went and pulled a couple of my Skateboarder mags from the stack and that particular ad appeared in Vol. 3, #1 October '76. Went back a year to Vol. 2, #6 August '75 and 41st had a much simpler ad, both ads, most of the mounted decks with wheels that are sealed. By late'75 most of us had sealed bearings on our boards (at least around where I am at in Norcal).
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i have that ad too
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On 4/12/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(67.83.nnn.nnn)
i'm pretty sure tunnel and sims wheels only came sealed bearing, i also remember that particular ad being interesting and confusing the letters are all over the place out of order and in a few spots it's hard to tell which letters go with what, i don't know if there was ever a tunnel competition full cutaway board,like in the pic,you don't see the bottom of the board,it may be mislabled,some stoner definitely put that ad together.There were urithane wheels with sealed bearings before roadriders,i have a rollersports cataloge from 74/75 with sealed bearing in it,they just weren;t the soft grippy urithane like roadriders.
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What year?
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On 4/12/2008 John
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(81.105.nnn.nnn)
Thanks. The wheels are definitely sealed bearings: Sims, Road Rider, Tunnel etc. I'd like to think it's late '75 but it's more likely to be early/mid '76.
Watching Downhill Motion has inspired me to get this board set up.
The scan is from the Tunnel website. Click here for link
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On 4/12/2008 mad-rat
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(92.233.nnn.nnn)
Nice photo John! Not seen that one before, where did you scan it from?
I agree, tricky one. However here is a thought. The first wheels to have sealed bearings fitted as standard was the Road Rider 2. Do any of the wheels in this page have sealed bearings? Its too small for me to tell from here.
Anyway, the date that the Road Rider 2 came out is easy to find in magazines (I cant rememebr off hand) and if any in your picture have sealed bearings then its after that date. It looks from here like they are all Open in your photo ? ?
Peter
www.skateboardzoo.com
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What year?
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On 4/12/2008 John
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(81.105.nnn.nnn)
Does anyone know what year (and early/late if possible) this advert is from? In the UK our first magazine started in '77 so the 75/76 stuff gets a bit confusing if you don't have early copies of Skateboarder, which I don't.
The Logan has the Makaha logo which I thought stopped in '75. But were California Slalom available in 1975?
The reason is I'm putting together a 75/early 76 board and want to make sure the components are correct; and not having any ads from 75/76 Skateboarders means I'm a bit thrown.
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old board i found
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On 4/8/2008
skatenoob
wrote in from
United States
(68.122.nnn.nnn)
i found a old duraflex scateboard at a good will. i thought i could clean it up and hock it on ebay,but, as i looked at other duraflexes, i noticed they were all yellow, and mine is blue. just need some hints on where i could get some info on how rare it is to set a price range for it. if you are intrested in bidding, find it on ebay, or just e-mail me. it is in good condition, earlier than 1970 w/ little damage and never been taped. thanks for any help i get.
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Vintage man pics
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On 4/8/2008
munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(217.44.nnn.nnn)
Vintage dood,
i love your pictures, but check the sizes before you upload them fella, they make the page too wide and very very slow to upload, i'm surprised Adam hasn't removed them!
Shoot me a mail dood, i lost all my contacts because of a harddrive malfunction, so lost your mail address.
Munchh
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Specs on those recent decks Vintage Man put up
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On 4/7/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
David .. the wheels on the Duane Peters are original Magenta Blackharts. �Fastest & most valuable skate wheels on this planet. �Too expensive & very very rare!! �Yes on the Sims Phase 3 ... the blue wheels are Sims B52s. �Love those & designed by Brad Bowman. �They are also called Sims Brad Bowman's.n �Check out my latest purchase! �Very rare sims Ayers ... 12 inches wide. �Swallows the Brad Bowman, Andrecht & Lamar & Mauch rarer! �Cool! �ScO
Seems to jive with what HIKE4IT wrote... With some additions I think
Cheers to you young bucks and knowledge of them new fangled 1980s style decks!
Vintage Man
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Wheels on the Duane Peters
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On 4/6/2008
hike4it
wrote in from
United States
(66.205.nnn.nnn)
The wheels on the Duane Peters are Blackhearts and on the Sims phase 3 the wheels are sSims B52's This I know to be true as they are a friend of mines boards
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Phase of experimentation
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On 4/6/2008 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Those are B-52's (from early '81 or so) on that Sims Phase [II, III ?] ;
but the real question is what wheels are on that Duane Peters??
Krypto Conicals, OJ Double Conicals, Blackharts, or ??.
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sims phase...
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On 4/6/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(71.251.nnn.nnn)
also on those lines, the sims phase III followed the 2 which was in the ad and i guess there was a phase 1 too. the prototypes were made with george greenough(sp) those sounded really interesting supposedly they couldn't get them back from the test pilots,i wonder if any survived.
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pics of the Sims Phase 3 (below)
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On 4/6/2008
Buddy Rawls
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
On the Sims Phase 3, that is peaking into the photo, what wheels are those? I have a funny feeling those ore Sims The Wheel I's. I never saw a set of those except in a 2 ads. the Wheel II's came out within weeks later it seemed.
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Dogtown from that youngster!!
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On 4/4/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
Oh My, this is a tasty treat from the
same collector... He sent others but were
over my collector head :---) Lovely collection
that young-in has!
Vintage Man
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1980s Skateboards
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On 4/4/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
Ok these pictures are for you youngsters...
1980s I was playing rugby, trying to jump start
my career, and getting dumped by girlfriends!!
So you all chat these up if ya know about em..
Sent to me tonight by a fellow collector, younger than I !
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Fafnir bearings
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On 4/4/2008
Adam
wrote in from
United States
(68.230.nnn.nnn)
Much has been written on Fafnir bearings on Ncdsa over the years. Use the Search function on the Bearing Reviews forums and be sure to specify Entire Archive in the date range field.
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Fafnir bearings
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On 4/4/2008 SE
wrote in from
Germany
(213.148.nnn.nnn)
Thanks for answering. They are the 8-ball type. I looked up the other number I couldn't remember yesterday. So the shield says
Fafnir 38KD C7
I googled some more and it translates to 8 balls (C7), 8mm axle (the 8 from 38) and one shield (38K=no shields, 38KD=one shield, 38KDD=two shields).
Probably german made as it doesn't say U.S.A. or Japan anywhere.
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My Taperflex now Sold
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On 4/3/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
Just bought it for parts, came with some fantastic
first generation Gold Gullwings!!.... Re-furbished pretty
good but admit not professional skills!! :---)
Looks better from start to finish I think!.
I am going to cut and paste TAPERFLEX BEARINGS SE out of germany,
posting below this post.Hope this works the cut and paste!
www.lowpoly.com/skateboard/index-spoiler.htmtaperflex...
His is beyond fantastic!!
Here are my pictures of a Taperflex of no comparison, but
does look much better after than before!! Brought it
back to LIFE! Re-sold it on ebay so got First Generation
Gold Gull Wing Trucks for $50!! Usually I over pay folks!
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Fafnir Bearings
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On 4/3/2008 Pre School Rider
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Stefan, those are likely original bearings. Fafnir's were, in the day, and for a good while after that, one of the fastest bearings you could get. BTW, are those bearing using 8 or 9 balls in them? Most companies use 7 balls, but Fafnir had 8-ball versions offered for skateboarding use (actually, sewing-machine bearings), and I've seen the 9-ball variants in Industrial use.
John Gilmour probably still is running Fafnirs in some Slalom/DH board. Mine are on my Hobieflex, for added 'Vintage' points.
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Taperflex bearings
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On 4/3/2008 SE
wrote in from
Germany
(213.148.nnn.nnn)
Hi, I posted about my Taperflex Spoiler before, here are some pics:
http://www.lowpoly.com/skateboard/index-spoiler.htm
I wonder if it has the original bearings. I thought I had replaced them but I'm not sure anymore. The writing says Fafnir C7 and another number. One side shielded, the other one open. Are these the original bearings or recent replacements?
The board is from 1976/77.
Thanks,
Stefan
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Old Sims deck
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On 4/2/2008 Baseball
wrote in from
United States
(24.98.nnn.nnn)
Vintage Man,
Sh*t sorry to hear about your fall,really sorry to hear you damaged your beautiful Sims board. My wheels must of been bowl riders because they didn't have Sims molded in to them,it was in white writing on the back side. I wish I had some of these boards y'all are showing. I sold it for 35.00 and I thought I was getting big money of it.
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gullwing stuff
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On 4/2/2008
buddy rawls
wrote in from
United States
(128.158.nnn.nnn)
Speaking of gullwings, when my dad moved out of our old house (I was long gone), I left all sorts of stuff. among the stuff was 2 sets of 7" pros, one of which was originally a 8" pair that used the washer stacks, but switched back to the narrower 7" axle. And a set of Phoenix. And this is just then GW stuff!
To date I still do not have a set of 7" pros. They come up on Ebay on trashed completes, but they usually command a lot more $ than I am wanting to part with. I am not a collector, I am a rider. SO I use full-tracks on my resto-riders instead. Walt did make a set of 8" pros a few years back, but they just aren't the same.
GW Pros are very bizarre trucks. People that love them, love them. Everybody else hates them. Everyone says they dont turn. Truth is, they don't. But the guys that ride them take advantage of that. they can be ridden soupy loose and still remain stable, yet are incredibly reactive just of center. Other steeper hanger trucks (ie INDY) will loop you in a heartbeat if ridden that loose. then when you tighten them up, you lose that reactiveness just off center.
I have spare sets to keep me going, but I really do miss them.
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Gullwing history
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On 4/2/2008
PaulW
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(82.24.nnn.nnn)
Buddy,
Sincere thanks for the fill-in on the Gullwing trucks. I'd always wondered why a 9" Pro (meaning the 7" and 8" chunky-hangered truck) wasn't made. Damn. I had a set of those very same 9" Pros that were blue. I always figured that they were Pro IIIs because they weren't raw/polished - they definitely had the burlier bushing ring in the hanger (which sets these apart as the later Gull Pro IIIs have a more sculpted look - like a Sixtrack - this is not the Super Pro III I'm talking about...).
Whatever. The Pro 8 was, to me, the defining wide truck of that era. Nothing looks as good to me.
Also, I do have a 7" hanger and two baseplates. Never found another hanger to set up the pair though.
Pw
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Jay adams Z-flex
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On 4/1/2008
Dylan
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
I have a yellow Z-flex jay adams design and i was wondering if anyone knew what it is worth. Its never been used or anything. thanks
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andrecht/gullwings
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On 4/1/2008
buddy rawls
wrote in from
United States
(128.158.nnn.nnn)
Those Pros are just the first issue 9" pros. When the 8" versions came out, they retained the small pivot diameter of the original 6" classics and 7" super-pros. Around late-late 79, they revised the hanger (and baseplate) to the larger pivot and put out the revised 8" versions and the new 9" versions. We were still skating 8" pros in the summer of 79. When andrecht visted that summer, he was still on 8's also. Sometime in 80, I broke a truck hanger and had to upgrade to the whole new truck. I ended up riding a 9" rear and 8" without any issues and skated a long time with that set-up on the folmers I was using at the time.
when trucks starting getting wide (8"), Walt sold some of the 7" pro's with 8" axles and washer stack-up on each side. For some reason, I never had trouble with them, but I sold them/ traded ASAP to get some regular hangered 8" versions. 7" pros are pretty rare and washer stacked 8" pros are very rare.
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Andrecht, Toft and Gulls
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On 4/1/2008
PaulW
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(80.254.nnn.nnn)
Ah... my bad on the Toft. I bought one of the Creepsurfy ones. It's shorter than the Toft and has more plys. But it's similar.
Anyway. The Gullwings on that Andrecht pic are only the second set of those I've seen. They're the earliest Pro IIIs with the chunkier hanger. It's kind of a hybrid between the old Pro (8") and the classic 80s Gullwing Pro 3. Nice.
I'm feeling you on the conical Snakes! I was fortunate enough to locate 2 x green and 2 x yellow, unused, from a UK distributor. They would have been perfect companions to the Andrecht's green/yellow graphic.
Mind you, it would have driven me slowly mad watching it all fade to black, while hanging on the wall. SIMS urethane colours are so fugitive.
Pw
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