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Boulder Boards
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On 5/13/2008 TNieland
wrote in from
United States
(72.84.nnn.nnn)
oops the Martinez has a skin also
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John's Macho/Gordo
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On 5/13/2008
PaulW
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(80.254.nnn.nnn)
John, while I don't doubt your story (although badge engineering isn't a new phenomenon) I thought the company that made the Gordo was "Macho"?
Meanwhile, I bought a Macho deck from The Skate Shop in Poole a few years ago. Same logo on the die-cut griptape, but a large "winged skater" sticker on the bottom. The board shape was similar to yours. I think I traded it to Steve in AZ (formerly of this parish... whatever happened to Steve?).
So, now you've got me thinking... did West Country manu these decks, or did they rebadge a product made in the USA, like so many others?
Cheers...Pw
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Boulder Boards
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On 5/13/2008 TNieland
wrote in from
United States
(72.84.nnn.nnn)
Hey BMAN
great info!! Boulder boards are my favorite decks made aside from Caster.
I belive they made most of the early Variflex's Thr Grisham, Stuart Singer Freestyle,both Hirsch models,the Dennis Martinez, the street light, Losi,El Gato
all these had a skin on them except the Martinez. any more info on them would be great how about writing a article for Concrete Wave!!!
Tom
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This arrived yesterday
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On 5/13/2008 John
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(86.27.nnn.nnn)
Regarding numbers of boards made; I doubt many of these were produced. It's a West Country Gordo (30x9.25) and a fine example of a UK skateboard industry product with it's Surrey Skates and Benjyboard stickers (it came with Benjy Boots).
West Country were based in Newquay, Cornwall: Jed Stone was their main rider who featured quite a bit in Skateboard! at the time.
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Boulder Boards
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On 5/13/2008 mad-rat
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(92.233.nnn.nnn)
Thats real interesting info bman, thanks for that.
A Cabinet maker! wow, that got me thinking again about numbers.
What sort of numbers of boards were being produced? If we take 1979 as an example, the craze was over but Kryptonics, Dogtown, Variflex Etc were producing the best engineered decks we'd ever seen; but in what numbers?
How many thousands, or was it only hundreds of each model were being produced?
This then goes on to make me wonder what percentage of each board are still in existence, in collections.
As an example, There are quite a few Kryptonic beamer decks in private collections, being so expensive and well engineered, I guess people kept hold of them from back in the day, but does that mean we have 70% of those beamers ever made, still in existence?
At the opposite end of the scale, I remember seeing that G&S made a big thing about the Stacy Peralta Warp Tail being the biggest ever selling deck. So how many was that then? or Sims Pure Juice, or Powerflex Etc
Anyone have any insight into the skate business from back then?
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Boulder Boards
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On 5/12/2008 bman
wrote in from
United States
(68.231.nnn.nnn)
Here is the scoop from my recollection.......
late 1978 Early 1979 Boulder Boards was actually a cabinet maker in Boulder Colorado. Kryptonics contracted them to make the SAlba and Malba KBeams. Boulder made their own brand boards as well and these were a simple multiply bargain version.
Not long after the success of the KBeams, Boulder started manufacturing Variflex boards (i.e. Grisham Model) and the Dogtown Shogo Airbeam and Muir Triplane models.
Boulder Boards was very lax with their seconds as many skaters at Hi-Roller Skatepark in Boulder were riding these "blems" that were found in Boulder Boards trashcan.
Boulder Boards workmanship was sweet. I was the lucky recipient of an exclusive Triple Beam vertlam board. Think of a SALba KBeam with a vertlam bevel beam on eachside of the rail. A nice concave as well. Yes, very sweet and someone on Boulders College Hill decided they had to have it more than me and it was stolen. A very sad person I was.....
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vintage dogtown?
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On 5/12/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(67.83.nnn.nnn)
i saw that" boulder custom" is it really a dogtown? it looks like a variflex grisham,right? dogtown may have had first shot at it,maybe there's fine print that says it was made for dogtown,but they never went into production. Wasn't there supposed to be a duane peters, i guess dogtown makes for better bidding.
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Bennett Trucks Da Je' Vou all over again
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On 5/10/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
All three sets of Mr. Bennett Truks...
As advertised in Feb issue Skateboard Magazine;
Bennett Hijacker Truk $13 per set, Bennett Pro Truks $18 per set,
Bennett Pro Ad+Trak $21 per set (6.6" Pro Ad hanger).
Shipping and handling was $1.50, +Calif residents 6% tax..
Cost me about $168 per set with freight. So thats about a 700% price increase
over 30 years, or about 6% per year. Not a bad return for 30 years as are still
minty and could be used again!! Everything original (cept one ACS baseplate),
the bushings, nuts, bolts.. Even the axle rods, those little thin spacers
and the axle nuts all retain about 75% or more of original bronze application
via the Mr. Bennett factory process!! Thats an anal collector eye for ya!!
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Sims Pure Juice
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On 5/5/2008 mad-rat
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(79.75.nnn.nnn)
Nice Juice Rob, and not bad for free !
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Sims Pure Juice
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On 5/4/2008 Rob in VA
wrote in from
United States
(98.166.nnn.nnn)
I was talking to a friend of mine who I hadn't seen in years and mentioned that I got back into skateboarding a few years ago and have a small collection of vintage boards from the 70's. He mentioned that he had his old Sims board somewhere in his mother's house. on Friday I received a package in the mail with the beuatiful board below! I had to clean it up a little and replaced the original Bennett baseplates with a set of ACS plates since the Bennetts were destroyed. Otherwise, the 1977ish deck, wheels, and Bennett Pros are in GREAT shape. Check it out. Rob
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Solar Energy Wheels/Get a life
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On 5/3/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
So presenting my vintage age to you young-ins. I pioneered
the original Solar Energy industry in 1978-83-ish... Thus
one day I decided when the opportunity arose, and seems somewhat
rare opportunity, to purchase 1978-ish Solar Energy Radiation
skateboard wheels.... $100 bucks approx... Lots of bidders!! A
gold-ish set went for similar... Little more... Bid but 2nd place :----)
SO ENJOY THE PROOF OF PURCHASE and my Solar Pitch book, California
License Plates on my 1972 Datson 510 :---) and one of a thousand pictures
I still have of my products. That pic was on the cover of the Solar Energy
Industry Magazine 1979.. Was first housing development in USA to us Solar Energy Hot Water system as standard feature.... 56 homes... No real money for me though... Industry collapsed, but like skateboarding has come back with
a vengence and powerful fury.... Quote from Pulp Fiction. Enjoy the weekend.
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Vintage X-Caliber skateboard
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On 5/1/2008
Jshut
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
I have a vintage X-Caliber skateboard and am trying to find info on it Its red
with like a black and silver knights helmet with funky wings on the deck.
The flip side has a huge slihghtly distorted face with an open mouth.Base color is cherry red.with graphixs black white silver and yellow,The trucks and rails and tail piece say excaliber on them.and the wheels almost look as they were hand printed (painted) saying excaliber on them.Any idea of date or anything
by the way its a multply wood deck I think maple thanks for any help
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the eternally resilient Road Rider
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On 4/28/2008 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(64.30.nnn.nnn)
Bounce?! I didn't know they bounced, or I would've kept more than one set of my RR's. ;-)
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Mr Curious continued
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On 4/28/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(192.193.nnn.nnn)
So there in lies the problem... Eureka :----)
You got several hits/replies on your RR6s and other stuff for sale.
But your computer crashed per your notes on the BUY SELL TRADE page.
The RR6s in the picture I attached below are almost original
issue red color and hardness to 30 yrs ago. They still bounce like new!!
I got them via a BUY IT NOW on ebay for $250 which also included the
original factory supplied bearing used in the wheels factory making process!!
Got off EBAY from an original dealer in Rhode Island 60 days ago!
So depending on condition I would think the pricing/value of your wheels to
be $40-$250-ish, per your used very little condition comments. NOW;
Sales is sales. PIZZZAZZZZ sells. This is a sought after vintage skateboard collector item.. Clean them up! Put the wheels up on EBAY with 3-4 pictures,
start at $9.99, List auction as VINTAGE SKATEBOARD ROAD RIDER WHEELS and
let the bidding begin!! Or list them with a picture on BUY-SELL-TRADE page
again. Just make sure the computer does not crash again!!!
Sk8ter Later Troy
David
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RR 6's
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On 4/28/2008
Troy (AKA Mr. Curious)
wrote in from
United States
(24.45.nnn.nnn)
Well, if you go to the Buy/sell/trade section of this website and hit "older 25" once and scroll down a bit you will see a series of pics of helmets, wheels and a couple old skates posted by me (Troy).
In those pics are the RR 6's.
I had not posted a price because I had no idea of the worth.
Maybe not posting a price was my mistake because no one was interested enough to even make an offer.
Anyway, back to my original question. I guess from the couple of responses they are worth something. The real question is what.
I don't really care if I sell them or not but the fact is that I'm not a collector and having stuff sit on a shelf collecting dust really does'nt do it for me.
I thought I could get something worthwhile for them to go toward some race travel expenses and get them off the shelf (and onto some one elses).
So, $20?, $40?, $80?,$5?? Or should I put them on a beater for the kids to thrash?
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no interest?
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On 4/27/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(71.255.nnn.nnn)
absolutely no interest is unusual so unusual that perhaps they were mislisted,it's pretty easy to list something in a way that it might not show up on a search. You would think that if your baseprice was normal,let's say forty+shipping,and the pics showed a set of wheels in excellent condition ,someone like vintage man would have scooped them up in an instant.
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Mr Curious/No Sale Road Rider 6s
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On 4/27/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
Personally I think Mr Curious is prank emailing us!! :---)
Now why would I put up $600 worth of wheels and say such a number
if they had no value, or were so common, nobody was interested??
Sorry getting cranky in my "are you kidding me Mr Curious" age :---)
To answer your question. I need to ask some; Were you trying to
sell your wheels in China? Or a India located flea market or a
garage sale outside the USA? If so you need to refine your marketing direction. Now if you tried selling these RR6s in the USA :---)....
Did you over price them? Is your description "slightly used" incorrect
and maybe a collector might call them thrashed? Regardless the solution
is simple: Post your email address, and a picture on this site, via the
Buy-Sell-Trade page. Or use Ebay as your selling source.
Title your auction; Vintage Skateboard Road Rider wheels.
You will sell these RR6 wheels in 7 days or less.
Prank Caller Prank Caller
Lance to Vicent Vega in Pulp Fiction
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RR 6's
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On 4/26/2008 Mr. Curious
wrote in from
United States
(24.45.nnn.nnn)
I tried to sell a set of slightly used RR 6's a little while ago and had absolutely no interest.
Are they so common that they just aren't worth much?
I thought someone might be interested but apparently not.
I'd be interested in knowing what some of your thoughts are.
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Road Rider 2s, 4s, 6s
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On 4/26/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
Here is about $600 worth of wheels at todays
ebay pricing and my bidding skills :--) Generally
Minty and NOS.... Some color change on the 4s.
I road RR2s in my day on a 24 inch deck 1975-ish to 1980..
1973-1975 was cadillac style, gentec GT bb style bearings!!
Yes, I know, NO HENRY HESTERS!! I did not realize till
taking the picture via the ad... LMK if any for sale :---)
cheers
Vintage Man
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Gullwings and Vicki Vickers
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On 4/25/2008 Pauliwog
wrote in from
United States
(65.122.nnn.nnn)
Yes, Seriously!
I wonder what she's up to now.
-P
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Gullwing Pros
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On 4/22/2008 mad-rat
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(92.233.nnn.nnn)
Here is a photo that I've always loved.
Vicki Vickers at Winchester on a lovely Kryptonics setup with Gullwing Pro's with a washer stack-up as you mentioned Buddy.
Its not just me is it? Girls on skateboards is seriously sexy?
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gullwing Pros
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On 4/22/2008
buddy rawls
wrote in from
United States
(128.158.nnn.nnn)
the 7" pros (4" hangers) were offered with an 8" axle and washer stack-up for a short time (spring/summer 78), until GW could get a real 8" (5" hanger) on the market. they're weren't super rare at the time, but I have never seen a set since. Most of them were changed back to 7" axles to preven the axles from bending. thats also what I did with mine too. I am not aware of them offering a longer axle on the original Pro-classic (6" axle).
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Past few months, pictures and info from the field
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On 4/21/2008 Vintage Man
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
I gotta tell ya gentlemen... Past 4 months
the pictures and info from the field, your experiences,
stories and product knowledge have been just fantastic!
Days at my office trying to conquer the world or
keep it from killing me.... I often drift over to the
www.ncdsa.com Vintage page, and just see fun, interesting stuff!!
Keep it coming... That ain't porn talk!!!!!!!!!!!!! :----)
Keep it up!!! hummmm sounds like porn talk I admit......
The attached is long ago... I don't look like that no moe... Taken
1975 at UC Berkeley 150lb wrestler, its spring so longer hair,
got my woodshop made deck from 1973... Lost it shortly afterwards!!
Enjoy the skinny Dave from LORDY that is 33 yrs ago!! Oh my...
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Slalom Porn
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On 4/21/2008 mad-rat
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(92.233.nnn.nnn)
While we are all getting out toys out, and on the Porn theme, let me repost an old Slalom Porn shot I posted here years ago.
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Gullwings
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On 4/21/2008 mad-rat
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(92.233.nnn.nnn)
Buddy,
I have also seen Gullwing Pro's with a narrow hanger as in Vintage Man's photo's, but with a longer axle and then wheel spacers or aluminium 'cones' added to the keep the wheels wider. I guess a bit like the Benett Ad-Trac.
I guess this was what they did to quickly respond to the rapidly widening decks before they could get the Wider 7, 8 and 9" Pro's out.
I only saw this is magazines, so maybe they just did it for Team riders?
Do you know any more about this? Do you have a Gullwing connection?
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