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RIII
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On 8/21/2001 Herbn
wrote in from
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Don't you think it's confusing, that a RII is a truck but a RIII is a deck, what is randal gonna call his next trucks:)?
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SINergy?
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On 8/21/2001
psYch0Lloyd
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"We want the some of the parts to equal the whole."
Some mistakes are a change for the better others... well?
Alan Sidlo
Knucklehead Racing Team
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R IV or the new DH deck
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On 8/21/2001
Leo
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Bert, the new batch is very soon to be realeased, i think that less than a month, you can call LY to make sure or send them an email 1-604-9245554 or landyachtz@hotmail.com
Leo
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Landyachtz
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On 8/21/2001 Bert
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Does anybody know when the R IV is to be released? Some Information would be very handy.
Thank you
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standards
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On 8/20/2001 hc
wrote in from
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it would be nice to have a faq page on hardware dimensions.
anyone?
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On 8/20/2001 Glen
wrote in from
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Glad you like the Hamm Slam video.
What amazed me was the Jack Smith didn't win the race. His video clips look the fastest by far. I now understand what Hester said to me at Morro. He said "on this course, the guy who looks the fastest, will probably be the fastest". I though to myself, poor Henry, senility has begun to set in. Now I get it. Looks can be real deceiving depending the course. Sorry for doubting you, Henry, but play it safe and don't rule out senility.
VIDEO INFO
SHIPPING
I will ship USPS Priority mail to the 48 touching states which will add $3.50 to the price for up to two videos.
3 videos costs $3.95, don't know how much above that.
Shipping to other locations will be different and you'll need to email me regarding it. Same goes for multiple video orders.
PAYMENT METHODS
I like money orders, checks, and Paypal. Cash, if you see me at a local skate event.
Checks or Money Orders -
make them payable to
Glen Darcey
930 E. Olive Ave.
Burbank Ca. 91501
PAYPAL - my official PayPal email address is
gdarcey@pacbell.net
Glen Darcey
Other info
Any other questions please email me
hammslam@creative-license.com
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Abec 11
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On 8/20/2001
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
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No Longboard buyer, You are not an idiot. You are my target market. Guys who expect things to make sense instead of those who accep second-hand rollerskate technology with no integration, standardization, quality control or vision. This industry is way behind in its technology and it's about time that we stop accepting substandard equipment. It was so difficult and frustrating for me to try and get manufacturers to modify their existing products that I came to the conclusion that "If you want to do something right, do it yourself". If you do something right the first time, you don't have to make costly changes down the road or lose consumer confidence by selling blunders. Many products that we ride today are unchanged mistakes from the 70's, 80's and 90's. I am addressing all of your personal grievances in wheels right now, trucks in the near future and lastly in boards that will work in harmony with its equipment.
Most of the advancment in technology is going to come from racing. Racing puts the most extreme wear and tear and stress tests on a product and we need to know when a product will fail. Racers who have the need for speed will always be looking to improve the products and not just increase the marketing and advertising budget for the bottom line. Racing is a healthy form of R&D and the longboard buyer is the ultimate winner. Whether you just want to cruise or bomb the biggest hill in the state, we all want the same basic things. Smooth, fast wheels with traction and control, sweet carving trucks that are stable at high speed and a nice deck to put your feet on. We want to set and forget it or be able to tweak it to perfection and not have to special order special or hard to find proprietary parts for ill designed products. We want hole patterns, trucks, wheels and wheel-wells to be aligned and placed properly. We want to keep the weight down but keep it strong and durable.
We want it to make sense. We want the some of the parts to equal the whole. I like to think that we here at Abec 11 "get it". I won't stop until I have the best quality in the industry in every size wheel, truck and deck. Accessories and after market products will be standardized and integrate perfectly. This isn't rocket science and it's not that hard. It is expensive and does take time so hang in there my friend, the best is yet to come.
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New School and old school
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On 8/20/2001 Longboard buyer
wrote in from
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Old school vs new school. Actually it is Old school vs No school. What is it with a zillion different size spacers- two different hole patterns in trucks and boards, we have a silly industry here.
What could possibly be the reason for several different size spacers? Do roller skates REALLY need different size spacers? Did skateboards REALLY need different size spacers. Perhaps pre-core wheels the smaller spacer size allowed wheels to tear off axles. I saw 10mm spacers on the original kryptos (no core-raised letters from 1977) tear off axles doing powerslides in the heat at speed. I suppose 8mm would have been worse.
So I could see that pre core wheels needed 10mm spacers.
BUT THE STUPID NEW HOLE PATTERN! It is actually weaker, and if pros were really concerned about the hardwear messing them up in finger flips why not get recessed hollow cap screws similar to old roller blade axle hardware that has no hardware sticking out and mounts totally flush plus.....it only needs an allen key to secure it, no slipping and cutting yourself with pliers or stabbing yourself with a slipped screw driver. And if adults do that - what about 10 year old kids in growth spurts and spastic cooordination. No excuse for the new hole pattern- bring me the person who devised it so I can personally shoot them on their knees- executioner style. The only person I would excuse is Tony Hawk because he has brought so much to our sport.
BUT GOD DAMN IT MAN- sell the wheels with the correct spacers. Scotch tape them into the cores. Don't expect the skate shop people to get them for us.....cuz guess what- unless you buy from Purple Skunk, Solid Skate.com, Longskate.com, Poolskater.com or some retailer that cares you won't be sold spacers. Blades Boards and skates sells spacers in the Inline wheels but tells you you don't need them for skateboards. They tell you that the "hop up kits- ie high quality spacers for inline skates make you go faster, and then looking you straight in the eye they tell you skateboards go faster without spacers.
We just bought Kryptonics 76 mm wheels and a pack of swiss bones bearings expecting it all to go well. get home and @#$%^&&*%^%^%##%$%^(*^*(^(*^(*()(^^%$$%% wrong size spacers!
I also buy tilt risers and @#$%RYT&*& wrong size stupid No school hole pattern(come on These angled risers don't fit both hole patterns and it would have been so easy to make them backwards compatible)- and it is a friend of mine that makes them!
So we have a new school board pattern, new school risers, old school trucks, old school spacers, new spacer pattern in the cores. If I was a newbie I would practically just give it up and go uggggggh inline Skating. If an Inliner was in this room they would be laughing at us. Oh yeah, I cheaked the mounting hardware to make sure it would fit...I made sure the bearings came with spacers.
I have been skateboarding since 1973- assembled tons of decks in my friends shop- raced for years, and still I get screwed just like everyone else trying to put together a skateboard out of the simplest of parts.
I was watching out for making sure I got spacers, making sure not to forget the hardware, making sure to get angled risers for my friend.
Am I the idiot?
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Fibreflex 42 inch cutaway
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On 8/20/2001 john gilmour
wrote in from
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Hi Deb,
My friend Alex got his 42 inch fibre flex cutaway. What a nice deck. I want one and I want one even more after seeing him with it. Secretly I'm going to help him set it up and then borrow it every chance I get. Please put one aside for me. I'll take a fiberglass sandwich one. I actually want one to ride and one for the wall. I'm putting a Flyaway helmet up for sale to buy 2 decks.
What is the optimum set up? I liked Roger Jennings deck with the seismics and Power Paws.
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Mini-Cubics
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On 8/20/2001 steve c
wrote in from
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Ahhh! Mini Cubics were my most favorite pool, night session, slide! wheel EVER. When my greens wore out, there were no more to be found. I think I actually put the skate away for a while at that time.
The only thing any good in the early 80's were the ramp/pool decks and Indy's. Then the Bullet 66 came out and a few more places to use them did too.
But, if you never tried the Mini Cubics, you've tried nothing...as for a wheel that completely let you rule.
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rene
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On 8/20/2001 rene
wrote in from
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Yeah I'sitting here in China with my supper team of blah blah, and going to rule the entire world of stand up, sit down and street luge with our super sauce secret weopons, power paw set the stage for 74a formulas and the killer white compound, soon we will rule from all corners of the world!
ps. bmw wheels to come...
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Abec 11 Racing
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On 8/19/2001
Chris chaput
wrote in from
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Red Bull is now in the books. I am so stoked about the performance of the the 75a and 72a formulas that I can hardly stand it!. Soft is not slow. Smooth is fast. Smooth is sticky. The wheel design allows for controlled slidig if you do break traction. These things are fast AND hook up, even in the harshest of conditions (see my "Skid Road" post in the Speedboarding section). Abec 11'a took the polesitting position and carried more speed than any other wheel. I was If only I were a better rider, these babies would be on the podium every time. When the hill is long and fast enough to let these babies do their thing, sit back at enjoy the ride. We have "out-Krypto'd" Kryptos in the high rebound/smooth department and soon even Duane will be singing their praises.
The R&D is done. The trial is over. The jury is back. The verdict is in. Abec 11 is in superior court and my manufacturing team is the big winner. I have the best team of engineers, chemists and tool makers to ever endeavor to make skateboard wheels and it's a win-win for skateboarders and streetlugers all over the world. I'll do the best that I can to get these to the marketplace ASAP. There still so many wheels more wheels to come. We're just getting started. These wheels breed confidence. Yum.
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ABEC11s
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On 8/18/2001
Hamm
wrote in from
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CHRIS!!
make a 85 or 88a to run up front!!!
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big paws
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On 8/18/2001
hugh r
wrote in from
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That no good Rene must be sitting on his thumb! Come on bud! We are dying out here! Also am dying for some urathane BMW tires!! HR :)
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Bigger Instigator/Negotiator
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On 8/18/2001
Kaylee
wrote in from
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Does anyone have any info/rumors about when the bigger (78mm?) Power Paw aluminum cored wheels will be out?
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92 MILLIMETER ABEC 11
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On 8/17/2001
Ben
wrote in from
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NINETY-TWO MILLIMETERS SEVENTY MILLIMETER HUB
The hair on the back of my neck stood up when I saw the full-sized JPEG of that wheel sent to my email.
NINETY-TWO MILLIMETERS SEVENTY MILLIMETER HUB
We don't yet understand the significance of what has been done.
This is a lightweight, giant-core wheel that will spin up fast, roll the furthest on the fewest rotations, and provide the largest contact patch of any race wheel in existence.
NINETY-TWO MILLIMETERS SEVENTY MILLIMETER HUB
Not only is the core the largest ever made, it uses *hollow spokes* for the lowest rotational mass possible.
People will look back and say "Why were race wheels so short and chubby for so long?"
Because nobody put any ENGINEERING into them to advance them past the department-store design spec. For many years.
Has anyone noticed that high-performance wheels for cars tend to be TALL with LARGE RIMS? For minimum deformation on heavy cornering and to maintain the largest, most consistent contact patch possible.
You *could* shoe that new Porsche with foot-high fat donuts of solid rubber.
And you *could* encumber your speedboard with 76 millimeter wheels with 48 millimeter hubs.
Even the legendary Cherry Bomb only has a 50 mm hub, with 16mm of surrounding urethane.
This 92 MILLIMETER ABEC 11 has a 70mm hub with 11mm of surrounding urethane - FAST AND LIGHT.
NINETY-TWO MILLIMETERS SEVENTY MILLIMETER HUB
SPINS UP FAST, ROLLS FURTHEST ON FEWEST ROTATIONS, LARGEST CONTACT PATCH OF ANY HIGH-PERFORMANCE WHEEL WORLDWIDE.
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Abec11 hub
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On 8/17/2001 PCB
wrote in from
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Chris, just noticing, from that clear wheel on the right, that the Flywheels’ 50mm hub utilizes a mechanical lock, and I’m wondering if you can tell me the diameter of it.
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Abec 11 Family
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On 8/17/2001
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
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We are closer to the release of more size/hub/formula combinations in the Abec 11 Flywheel series of high performance wheels. Pictured above in all gray is the first 70mm hubbed 92mm wheel. Super high rebound formulas in 72a, 75a, 78a and 81a are being tested right now in the 74mm, 83mm, 92mm and 101mm wheels.
A special 38mm hub is just around the corner for other slalom and downhill race wheels. After that, the micro-core series to round out the most awesome arsenal of wheels ever unleashed upon a hungry population of hardcore speed freaks.
This weekend I'll be in Seattle for Red Bull's rough terrain downhill skateboarding race called the Skid Road. The 83mm 72a or 75a should be the right wheel for the job.
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Morro Bay Video
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On 8/16/2001 Glen
wrote in from
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Morro Bay is in the works. I just put the Hamm Slam video together as a last minute idea, after the video was shot.
Morro is a bigger project and will be a real "Race Coverage" video. One for the archives, and one I need to spend some real time on. I'm doing 4 TV shows a week right now so time is not something I have a lot of.
Hamm Slam is a slalom skating video with some slomo to dig into each riders style. I didn't really go into Hamm Slam with the intent of making a video. When I got home and checked the footage, I found that I had nearly 30 minutes of useable stuff.
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slalom video
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On 8/16/2001 hc
wrote in from
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hi glen, excited about your new video, are you still thinking about producing the Morro Bay one?
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Hamm Slam video
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On 8/16/2001 Glen
wrote in from
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I guess I'm a vendor now.
The Hamm Slam video is here.
Unfortunately the video costs more than I wanted it to but that's the deal with small quantities. I will guarantee, that as of 8/15/01 it is the best 100% Slalom Skateboarding video on the market.
I only have NTSC versions. Sorry Europe, get off that 25 fps thing.
The video price is $15.00 US plus shipping.
SHIPPING
I will ship USPS Priority mail to the 48 touching states which will add
$3.50 to the price
Shipping to other locations will be different and you'll need to email me
regarding it. Same goes for multiple video orders.
i.e. shipping to Bismark Archipelago is about $10.00
Slalom skaters in Tajikistan will pay about $14.00 in shipping etc.
PAYMENT METHODS
I like money orders, checks, and Paypal. Cash, if you see me at a local skate event.
Checks or Money Orders - make them payable to
Glen Darcey
930 E. Olive Ave.
Burbank Ca. 91501
PAYPAL - my official PayPal email address is
gdarcey@pacbell.net
Glen Darcey
Other info
Since I have a real job and packaging and shipping videos ISN'T it. It may take a day or two for me to get things shipped. I won't sit on something for a week, but it may take a day or two. Be patient please.
Any other questions please email me
hammslam@creative-license.com
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Cubics
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On 8/16/2001 Herbn
wrote in from
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64x64,Mini cubics 64x57,The earliest Cubics had a yellower green color,that seemed a bit harder and faster(even after some wear)the greener color must have been more loaded with dye.These wheels were my main rampwheels along with a set of 90a Mini cubes at a time when i wouldn't think of roughening them on the street, much less slide downhill on them,i used crappy DT rock'n rollers and Oj II's (talk about fast wear!)for DH,latter on, Skaters Unions did the hard work.I'd only get into hills once a year or so,go three or four times, master a bunch of slide combos(that means coming out with some speed) deeestroy a set of wheels then go back to regular riding.
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Mini Cubics
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On 8/15/2001
Cliff Coleman
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hc,
What you saw were Mini Cubics. The other Powell wheels that looked similar are not the same! The Threes, Street Cubics etc were lousy. The Mini Cubics were awesome.
Cliff
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Cubics
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On 8/15/2001 Duane
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There were Powell cubics as well as mini-cubes. The cubics were about 62mm square, big radius both sides, several hardnesses but pretty hard for the day. the minicubes same proportions but smaller (maybe 56mm), I don't know what size, I don't have any.
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Cubics
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On 8/15/2001
mathew
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Gravity, I think that the wheels that HC is refering to are the Powell MiniCubics.
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