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On 10/27/2002
sean c
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frank, you can make you're own "Lott Classic". here's the specs for it
http://www.geocities.com/sidestreetluge/buttboard.html
sean c
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On 10/26/2002 PSR
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Frank,Carharts are fine,as long as you slide only so that the Rivets don't rub and heat up!Still,that's better than Jeans,or anything that can MELT onto your SKIN.Work on BRAKING and Cornering,and the speed will come along when you're ready for it.As for Randals,check the "Trucks" forum for advice on bushing and wedging selection (may want to "search" for this stuff) to get them to behave NICELY at speed.Long before this was catagorized as a seperate sport from Luging,I ran hills often in jeans with selective patches of leather put in strategic places,often going Way Stupid Fast.I'm cheap and from Rural America,but it was the early 80's anyway,so who knew? Helmet,That I'd splurge on,but a decent Racing Snowboard Helmet is decidely better than an old Protec SK8 helm.Snowmobile SNELL-rated helmets work great,btw.Lott's boards are nice,and seem to be pretty well thought out.You can go that route,or make your own,just stay within the overall size parameters and use quality hardwood,preferably ply type of at least furniture grade.I'll tell you this; Once you understand your new cornering limits,and speed control factors,you'll be looking for hills steeper and longer than you've ever done standing up!
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On 10/26/2002 Frank
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I recently attended the Bainbridge,Ohio event and was totally impressed by the buttboarding. I am a long time longboarder and would now like to try buttboarding.I have scanned these posts and I understand that I should buy and read Lott's book. I was also considering buying one of his decks and using some randal 180s and flashbacks. I am 180# and 5'11" ; any comments about this setup for a beginner? Also concerning safety gear when learning at lower speeds how do you economically try this activity without buying an expensive helmet and full leathers? Can one safely use a snowboard helmet and protec pads under some carrhart workwear as long as you are going slow? I apologize for this newbie post but I would like to get some info so i can get started as soon as possible. I would appreciate any other general info that you can give so I can get out there and have some fun. I got the fever! Thanks.
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On 10/25/2002 hc
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see my post for sf under speedboarding.
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On 10/23/2002
EK
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Well here in Utah, all this "x-gravity" stuff is so foreign and so brand new. But it is not all that foreign to me, being a veteran of "old school" standup. So I am the only rep from this state and basicly doing this buttboarding craziness (and loving it!). There is noone else here as hard core about this fun so it's just me coming. Maybe after this year I can turn others on to this.
The reason for my intials?... I got tagged with it while serving in the military. They had trouble pronouncing my last name and started calling me by my intials (it more like "EKK" and boy, you intial alot of paper work in the military...).
Placing intials with faces is mutual, it will be an honor to meet the "famous" squirrel. Until then, Peace brah.
EK
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On 10/23/2002
The Squirrel
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Are any of your buddies going to make it? It looks like we might have a decent turnout for Sunday. I will have two buttboards as well as luges and my normal arsenol of gravity bikes. West LA is a fun event put on by a guy who loves to race. It will be a blast.
You can check out my kneeler trays as well to get some ideas if needed. Looking forward to meeting you and putting a face with the initials.
Squirrel
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On 10/23/2002
EK
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That's aright!!!!
I am sooo excited for this weekend. I will be making the trak to Culver City and seeing you guys again (especially meeting the one and only "squirrel"). I have been putting in more saddle time on the bike instead of my buttboard. Hopefully I will be "balancing out" my skills with the buttboard more. Another 12 hr. drive to Cal but it's all good. It's been cold and rainny here in Utah (grabbing whatever road time when it's dry enough...) and hopefully the trip down to West LA College is dry. Well enough for now, laters.
EK
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On 10/22/2002
The Squirrel
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EK did I read that right? Are you going to come to the West LA race this weekend? That will be sweet. I will have most of my bikes there as well as 2 luges and 2 buttboards. Hope to see you there.
Squirrel
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On 10/22/2002 hc
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and what's up with the igsa site, it's all messed up.
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On 10/22/2002
hc
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haven't heard any confirmation for the sf 11/9 race.
gonna email robert wurgraft.
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On 10/21/2002 Andy
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Hey EK,
Yea, it has been pretty quiet. I just got back from West Viginia myself yesterday and have some new pics (and maybe even a new video or two???) of some fun hills we found there. I'll let you know when I put them up on my site.
Later. Andy
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On 10/21/2002
EK
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Howzit!
Well been checking on this site and seems like I was the last to post something so might as well post another.
Getting ready for the S.F. Gravity Festival in Nov. I am going to bring two buttboards, which are different, to this event. I will be going to this October's West LA College in Culver City (Hi Scott!) to shake them out. The one of the boards I will be using at the San Fran. fest I have ridden alot and even raced it at West LA Collge but I lenghtened the wheel base (for stability at speed... advise for the "Os" man). It turns tighter than my second board, it has Idys trucks. We'll see at the West LA College which I will be using at San Fran. I will be also entering the stock division of the GBikes. Doing alot of saddle time on my bike... hopefully make a good showing (and have fun as the squirrel says).
Well enough free thinking. Hope to see some new posts next time I read this site.
Keep riding! EK
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On 10/9/2002
EK
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Howzit Grant!
It's good that you are riding safe. Hope that I did not sound like I was lecturing... just want you to get the most out of your rides in the safe way so that you can have future rides. Where I ride is somewhat residential but it is worth the time and patience to scope out hills that allow you to settle into a 'relaxed' and focused ride so that you don't have to be always worrying about cars pulling out on you or other distractions that can ruin your day (especially body). Also you can focus on how your board "feels"... what is going on between you and your board. Buttboarding has become a "zen" type of thing for me and like when I did stand-up (in my early 'crazy' young years) this helped me go faster and stay alert for unseen stuff. Well enough how to use your force young buttboard walker (LOL) be safe and ride long!
Peace. EK
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On 10/5/2002
Grant
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Hi EK
Yes I did get the book and I have read most of it and believe me I want to go fast but I am into safety. I have a order in for leathers from Z leather and my full face is on the way. I don't have access to closed roads so I go early in the morning or at night to roads that are in the mountains and have light traffic. Today I went to some hills in Pasadena I went down parts of each road and never the whole road at once as I am just learning to corner. One road does have nice banked turns and it looks like a great run at top speed. Now I am only up to like 30-35 mph Thanks for the help Grant
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On 10/5/2002
EK
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Howzit Grant!
I have the same impression about your understanding about "safe buttboarding" after reading your last post... did you really get and read Darren Lott's book? There is alot of good info. on "buttboarding" in Darren's book, especially the one on riding locations. I think that it is cool that you are excited about the sport annd all but it sounds like you need to consider the thought on safe riding. Practice more low speed rides in a 'closed course' area. And just a thought... have you invested in a full-face helmet and leathers? Just a word from experience as speeds get higher. Peace.
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On 10/5/2002
Grant
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Thanks HC
I picked up a copy of the book today lots of good info in it. I wish it had some on buttboarding. I'll let you know when I go over 50 mph hope in a month or so I'll be able to go fast!
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On 10/4/2002
hc
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grant, just curious, did you read lott's
'street luge survival guide'?
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On 10/3/2002
Grant
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Sean and EK,
Thanks for the tips! I did five runs tonight after work and only crashed once! I missed the manhole cover every time. I crashed when a car pulled out and was unable to break in time. Now that I seem to be in the right spot I am going to try bigger hills. Thanks again.
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On 10/3/2002
EK
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Howzit!
My positioning when I'm riding is the same as sean c., seeing the truck's four bolts between my legs when I sit up. I check this before I go and then settle in by feeling the front nose padding with the back of my knees, alittle past where they bend. Hitting a manhole cover can do that... scout out your hill before you ride. Walk the route from the bottom (run-off) to the top where you are starting.
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On 10/3/2002
sean c
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grant, this is what works for me and may or may not work for you. when i'm sitting up on my buttboard i like to look between my legs and see the top of all four of the bolts of my front truck between my legs.
sean c
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On 10/2/2002
Grant
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I just bought a Lott Classic board can anyone tell me what is the best place to sit on it for high speed and how do I set up the trucks so I don't get speed wobbles. I hit a manhole cover tonight and went all over the place. Thanks Grant
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On 9/26/2002 PSR
wrote in from
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Duane,that board of mine is absolutely 'Cush'-with my old age and bad back,I darned well am going to be Comfortable going over the 'culvert humps' we get around here. As for being considered a 'drop-through',my baseplates can be (and the back one is) lower than the deck,Plus,I've cut through nothing,so the board's strength is left quite intact.I'm simply running a very low CG,which only threatens my elbows,really. All of my pads are removable,and I beefed up the surface areas involved to keep the pads on even when standing on my board,which is when,other than a roll-over,they're most likely to come off.I did decide early on to put the sticky-back foam on top as a permanent padding,and that's being used by others.I think I can take this racing,but just in case I can't,I'll be making one more board that's closer to the Lott style board.
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On 9/26/2002 Duane
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PSR you are definitely the "pad master". Your board looks like a rolling pillow-top mattress, but it does look comfy. If I remember correctly, your trucks are mounted on the tails, but then wedged back almost flat. It still results in the baseplates being a little higher than the deck bottom, which would qualify (or more accurately, disqualify) as "dropped". On the other hand, I haven't seen too many tech inspectors hiding behind trees in your kneck of the woods.
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On 9/24/2002 PSR
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HC,my trucks on that board are usually Randal R-II hangers on 35* bases,although it's had Indy 215's on it recently to get tighter turns.Both work well,but take differing wedges,and turn rather different arcs. As for thigh support,the nose up-turn is awkward without the add-on padding,which may very well not pass tech inspection,but hasn't come off otherwise.This pad is sculpted with two 'hollows' that cradle the leg fairly flat,but clear the nose's uplift.I put two 3" foam stick-on strips(from Longskate,the "camo" deck topping)along the topside(cush for my tush),and add other foam pads as I see fit.All of my add-ons are wrapped in duct-tape,and velcro on,so they don't come off easily,nor protrude from the deck's sides.Still not sure if it's 'legal',though. Keith Fellemy had one of my proto-luges from about a decade ago,and it also had the foam padding.I learned a lot about seat building with those sleds,one of which I still get to drive on occasion,as a local bike-mechanic still runs it.Whether seat mods are allowed,we'll see.I can adjust,be it with less padding,or using a scrollsaw,or both.
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On 9/24/2002 hc
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psr, i thought of doing that too, but there is no nose overhang to support your legs.
btw, what trucks are on the freebord deck?
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