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Wooden Wheels
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On 9/12/2000 Ant
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Herbn,
Less attack the argument, the idea and not the person!
So far, i havent read any legitimate argument against my ideas of the wooden wheel, "land raft" or my mayo on bearings from you. You have been attacking me, when you re suppose to be attacking the argument.
Continue of wooden wheels,
Just because frition produces heat, it does not, in no way can you claim that it will start a fire.
Ant
PS: we can put flamining stickers on the wooden wheels to call them flaming wheels you guys want :)
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Wooden nickels
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On 9/12/2000 Herbn
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When i read these posts i think "ant" is off somewhere laughing at people tring to figure out if wooden wheels would work ,it's really to dumb to even discuss.I think you're burning something and it's not wood.
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On 9/12/2000 drakkars
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Flaming wheels ???????? ;-)
Hey ant if you can sell those wheels it could be a great name !!!!!!
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Wooden wheels
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On 9/11/2000
Danny Connor
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Wooden wheels huh?
This seems kinda sketchy to me. You would have to have those things so stinkin' hard for them to last at all, but then you would be sliding all over the place! Imagine if they got the slightest bit wet, because I already think I know what would happen. And, what about heat? Those suckers would be friggin hot if anywhere near the berrings, although flaming wheels would look cool! But more power to Ant for really trying to go for this, hey maybe I'll have to eat my words a few months down the road! Later.
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On 9/11/2000 todcar
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good luck when you hit a pebble or two. Since wood have very little rebound, it will "hold" onto what it rolls into much more than urethane. So if you want a wheel to lock up on you at high speed, I highly recommend it.
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Wooden Wheels for -------
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On 9/11/2000 Ant
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If you havent read my tutorial on the Land Raft, i dont think you would know why i want wooden wheels. Im trying to to design an all natural board that is practical and effective for downhilling at high speeds. Maybe carving too. Check out the HomeMade Boards section for an indepth and detailed explanation of the Land Raft. I will have picture posted on my website sooon.
Ant
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Rollen on Wood
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On 9/11/2000 Ant
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To Drakkars,
Here my answer listed in response of your questions:
- What is the grip of wood over asphalt compared to urethane (for carving in the streets)
A: since we all want to learn how to slide, or want to slide, wood would be fantastic for us. We're all searching for a hard slippery like compond that will enable us to slide, so woood would be the answer.
Q: What is the rebound factor of wood
The weight of your board and the flex of your board plays a huge factor in rebound. Not to mention the length of it too. So, of course, that will be taken in to consideration when i design my wheels.
- What is the hardness of the wood ????
A: The hardness of the wood depends on the type of wood :)
- What is the real cost of making those wheels (it cannot be poured)
Theres machines that make circles and such, it wouldnt be that hard or expensive. It will be cheaper too :) Chemical componds pollute the planet! Save the earth.
- Which wood do intend to use ????
I havent experimenteed with much wood, im make the assumption that maple or birch would be good sense we all, or most of us use it on our decks.
- Can we use it on a slalom board ????
Why not?
Sincerely,
Ant
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flatspots
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On 9/11/2000
drew
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SXE Phil,
in my experience, flatspots get bigger and bigger as long as you keep sliding on the wheel. this is fine while the flatspot is small, but after a certain point it gets dangerous as the wheel is likly to break loose in a turn when you don't expect it. Flatspots and off center wheels also contribute to speed wobble. If you are running soft wheels, they tend to be less likely to flatspot permenantly, and instead just tend to wear more on one side than the other so that the wheel is off center.
i have not had any real luck resurfacing a flatspoted wheel by riding or sanding. some people claim to get good results with lathing. i find that when I flatspot a wheel the urithane compound has heated up enough due to long slides that the wheel is forever changed. (i've had bones bombers 85a 68mm melt a bit in slides)
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On 9/11/2000 tony
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Alright, I will bite. If serious? Check a craft or lumber store. The place that I shop has bins of wheels in various sizes and types for toys, etc. To really go at this, I would laminate woods and then turn on the lathe. That way you could off-set the grain and would be less likely to disintegrate after the first chip. could be funny in a Flintsones sort of way.
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On 9/11/2000 todcar
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you guys are nuts if you think wood holds ANY comparative value against urethane.
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Drugs
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On 9/11/2000 Herbn
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you should stop taking them.
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On 9/11/2000
drakkars
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Hey Ant ,
If you are really serious about making wooden wheels .... I'd like to ask you a few question :
- What is the grip of wood over asphalt compared to urethane (for carving in the streets)
- What is the rebound factor of wood
- What is the hardness of the wood ????
- What is the real cost of making those wheels (it cannot be poured)
- Which wood do intend to use ????
- Can we use it on a slalom board ????
So test them and give us a field report
So long
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Wooden Wheels
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On 9/10/2000 Ant
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Think about construction and idea of wooden wheels for crusing. wouldn't A disposable type be convient and inexpensive? Almost like disposable contact lens which are convient and inexpensive. After a night of riding, you can just throw them away, or if you loose one from sliding, you can just put on another 99 cent wheel or something. I know some of you guys ride skateboards because you guys are hardcore conservationist, but isnt bad that you re trucks and fiberglass is compressed in a smoking factory? Think about!
Ant
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Wood Wheels/Paws
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On 9/10/2000
Hamm
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I not so sure Ant is serious about the wood wheel thing. Remember, this is the same guy who said his 'roommate' uses mayonaise as bearing lube. I think he just might be throwing out weird things to see what kind of response he gets.
Orange Power Paws&Alluminators are 74a
Dave
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Question: Flatspots
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On 9/10/2000 SXE Phil
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I went to some hills today to practice downhill sliding and after abunch of slides I started to get a thumping sound from one of my bombers, I noticed that I've got a flatspot forming. My question is does this mean the wheel is destroyed? Some of my friends who short board said they can be dangerous, is this a accident waiting to happen? Someone please give me the down low on flatspots because this is the first time I've ever got'em, thanks. Oh yeah, how can I keep them from happening.
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Slalom
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On 9/10/2000
Neil G
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What sort of wheels does everyone like for slalom? Are the 74A Powerpaws too soft?
Neil
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power paws
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On 9/10/2000
RooX
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i belive that the 70mm power paws come in a orange 74a, a white 74a and a 78a too (forget the color) but my experience with the whites is really good. They have... well they have real good grip and they are holding up well although i havent slid on them yet. They are a good choice for rough surfaces. Cheers all
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Krypto vs Krypto yo!
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On 9/10/2000 Herbn
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I'd imagine they were pretty close,being made by the same company out of the same urithane,i've ridden the Hawaii's breifly i think they look better,just an asthetic bias,go with MikeG's suggestion,how do you know the 70mm Paws are 78a the ones in my shop(orange)say "super grip" which would lead me to beleive they're 74a.
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Kryptonic Hawaiis vs. Classic vs. power paws
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On 9/10/2000
Mike G
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Boriqua
I have now ridden all these wheels. The power paws are the grippiest one. The Hawaiis dont have as much grip but are faster. And the Classics are in the middle of the two. If you are riding on bad concrete go with the power paws. That is just my opinion. Other people have different ones.
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General wheel ques
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On 9/10/2000
Boriqua
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Ive just spent an hour reading the archives but didnt find the answer to something.
I am getting a new longboard. A blacktip with randal rII's, angled risers and Wheels ??
I presently have a Freeride Marvin with 65mm 80a wheels and it is wonderful over rough stuff. I live in NyC and half my riding even at Flushing Meadows park is roughish tar or concrete.
I looked at the aluminator but I think the large core will make for a rough ride. I have narrowed it down to Power paw 70mm 78a wheels or krypto's which I used on skates for years. What is the difference between the Kryptonics Hawaii K 70mm and the Kryptonics Classic K 70mm. Any thoughts an which?
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All terrain
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On 9/10/2000
Gunnar
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Hello!
Can someone tell me where I can find slick wheels or other flat air wheels like those found on: www.carveusa.com/vinh.html
I don’t think my extreme XT’s is the best of all terrain wheels, they are only god on hard dirt, they are slow on asphalt and are really heavy, so I think pneumatic tire must be much better when its possible to change the pressure to the surface u are riding on.
Regards, Gunnar in Norwy
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Exkate/Kryptos
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On 9/10/2000
Chris Chaput
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Seattle Downhill update: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th;
Four man: Krypto76 ,Exkate82, Krypto76, Exkate82
Four man: van Bommel, Chaput, Lehr, Dansie
Two man: Krypto76 ,Exkate82, Krypto76, Exkate76
Two man: Lehr, Chaput, van Bommel, Hardwick
IMHO, I think Kryptos held better in the turns at the top and the Exkates rolled better in the faster straights at the bottom. With van Bommel's Gold/Bronze, Chaput's Silver/Silver and Lehr's Bronze/Gold, the "King of the Hill" was decided by a tie breaker, the qualifier. Lehr's 51.23 was a little behind Chaput's 50.50 but van Bommel was .32 seconds faster at 50.18 and earned him an extra $1,000, more hardware to join his two Gravity Games 2000 Golds, and some well deserved bragging rights on the pro circuit. BTW, the margin of victory in the Four Man Final was 3 inches, and the margin of victory in the Two Man Final was 5 inches. If Hardwick had beaten van Bommel in the Two Man consolation round, Chaput would have been "King of the Hill". This is as close as close can get.
Conclusion: Put both in your bag, take them out in different riding conditions and try to figure out whether to flip a coin or take a stance on what you feel more comfortable with. You really can't go wrong with either.
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Kryptonics
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On 9/9/2000 DT
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don't you get paid to say that?
i'm joking, kind of. Bob's right on the money. I think its kind of funny how trendy wheels have been over the last years, especially in the street luge world. Someone does a great run because they are a great racer and everyone will ride that wheel the following year.
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Kryptonics
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On 9/9/2000 Bob Ozman
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I have been riding Kryptonics on my street luge sence the 70s. They dominated the X Games in it's first 3 years until exkate came out with a bigger wheel. It was hard for the 70mm Krypto to keep up with the exkate 82mm. In 1999 Kryptonics came up with the new idea and it was the 76mm Racecore. Sence then we have been beating down that door that exkate has put up. The new Racecore that Kryptonics has produced is showing there muscle in the street luge world. Kryptonics will continue to be at the top of the wheel chain. Kryptonics got Gold, Silver and Bronze medals at the X Games for 2000.
Thanks Kryptonics for this outstanding wheel. Now it's time to dominate the next three years.
Bob "the Wizard" Ozman
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wood hardness
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On 9/9/2000
kaylee
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That's a way to measure rebound, not hardness. Related, but not the same.
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