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Barrett
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On 10/9/2000 Bob ozman
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Darryl F with a podium 2nd place was using the white Kryptos, and I think the Roger Bros were running Kryptos. I think Chris can give you a better list of the riders.
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SOH
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On 10/9/2000
Kaylee
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For the web site, got to www.skates.com. That's their online store. I was under the impression that clear 'thane is more resillient also. These wheels don't feel mushy like the Power Paws, Road Riders, and Sector 9's I've ridden, they seem to be more like speed wheels. They are sold as quad outdoor speed wheels anyway. Whatever, they aren't slow, that's for sure. And I've had my set for 3 years, no chunking or coning what so ever. They have worn down a few millimeters, but other than that they are as good as when I bought them. Very durable, super grippy, and as fast as I can personally handle. Some come with the "Skate your ass off" logo and some come blank, go figure.
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krypto's
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On 10/9/2000
hugh r
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Bob,
Which wheels were the stand up guys using? HR
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"KRYPTONICS"
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On 10/9/2000 Bob Ozman
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Not to brag a whole lot but Kryptonics dominated the Barrett Junction Road Course for the second time this year. I will say there was one sole rider that made it to the podium in luge on cherrys due to him being an old school rider and me over cooking the corner.
Kryptonics 76mm Race Cores for the Street Luge races are proving themself very quickly. The 70mm Classic K has proved to be a winning wheel with the Butt board riders.
Also in speed boarding Kryptonics also made it to the podium. All I can say is that exkate will have competition from here on out.
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Color in urethane
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On 10/9/2000 DT
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To add to what Chris said.
Wheels such as the glo, bright colored, and clear. Tend to have more air bubbles in them. This causes them to wear out quicker,chunk, and in some cases delam.
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Color in urethane
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On 10/9/2000
Chris Chaput
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When I went to Exkate last Thursday, one of the guys who makes the wheels recommended that I get the black Turbos instead of the bright yellow/green ones because he puts four scoops of powder for the bright color and only half a scoop for the black. The "purity" of the urethane is definitely different, but what actual effect it has on the wheels is unknown to me. I do have a pair of bright Turbos that "melted" down on one of my streetluges, but I've only run the black Turbos a half a dozen times on my buttboard at Barrett Junction. More will be revealed...
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Clear urethane compounds
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On 10/9/2000 Nick
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Funny you should mention clear wheels as being inferior. I was under the impression that urethane is best in a clear state, and the addition of dye/colours etc weakens the formula and causes the wheel to break down faster, wear out quicker and perform inferior.
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SOH
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On 10/9/2000 The Wizard
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So I checked the archives... does Skates on Haight have a web page or do I gotta send for a catalog or what?
Thanks,
sK
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Resilience = speed
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On 10/9/2000 Herbn
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Why? here's a theory. When measuring durometer a machine drives a pin into the urithane if a standrard presure drives the pin further in (more flex) it is softer,lower durometer. Your weight on a rolling wheel creates a very consistant amount of flattening, a contact patch with two halves,a compressing section and a decompressing section,faster rebound would shorten the decompressing section of the contact patch, but the patch stays the same size because the durometer has not changed, so the urithane is compressed on a longer patch,more leverage less resistance to compress less energy needed,more speed.
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Krypto's
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On 10/9/2000
Hamm
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I was watching the Gravity Games on Sunday. Looks like most of the winners were on 70mm White Krypto Classic K's.
Is that what everybody else noticed, or did I miss something?
Dave
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Sector 9
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On 10/9/2000
Dana Morgan
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I ride a Sector 9 Phoenix and one of the wheels just cracked. I use it for acrving tricks and downhill. What wheels would be good replacements?
Dana
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70mm Exkate
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On 10/9/2000
Hamm
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Ben,
I am holding in my hand right now a Exkate ad from the latest ILB and it shows the Cherry Bomb(82mm) the Turbo(76mm) the Hurricane(63mm) AND the Easy Rider(70mm).
It looks like Exkate DOES make a 70mm wheel
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Kryptos
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On 10/9/2000
Chris Chaput
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76mm Kryptos dominated the podium positons at Barrett Junction in the Downhill, Streetluge and Buttboarding events this weekend. Most felt that the Cherry Bombs, M-80's and Turbos were too hard but a few of us found them to work just fine.
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Rebound
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On 10/9/2000
Ben
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I agree that Kryptos, Exkates and Power Paws are what people are using in downhill these days. But, it sounds like DT is saying clear=less rebound and slower regardless of other factors.
The Krypto red is 6 mm smaller, doesn't have a full hub and is 78 durometer. You're saying the clear color makes the bigger, fully hubbed wheel of identical durometer slower? Some of the Power Paws being used in downhill now are clear red, right? You're saying the red stain makes all the difference?
By the way, Exkate doesn't make a 70 mm wheel.
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Rebound
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On 10/9/2000
DT
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>Re: "you know, I see these guys talking in the speedboard forum about grippy, FAST wheels, and if you listen to them it's like the answer can only be Turbos, Bombs, or Krypto reds"
The key word here is fast, the wheels you mentioned below are Slow grippy wheels. Now there are a lot of factors in what makes a wheel fast, but one of the key factors is rebound. Wheels like the Exkate 70mm, Krypto red, Power Paw (kevlar core), and a small handful of others will dominate. I'll say this again, stay away from clear urethanes, they tend to chunk and wear out a lot quicker than opaque urethanes. Good wheels are always worth a few extra dollars.
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Skate Your Ass Off from Skates on Haight
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On 10/8/2000
Ben
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Kaylee - you know, I see these guys talking in the speedboard forum about grippy, fast wheels, and if you listen to them it's like the answer can only be Turbos, Bombs, or Krypto reds. Now I know the SOH wheels hook a whole lot harder than the Turbos 'cause I've slid them side by side. Or, correction, got the Turbos to honk predictably but only tried to slide the SOHs which just cut and hissed time after time, faster and faster. Eventually got a chatter or two, but these were on slides where I ripped so hard I expected the board to squirt 20 feet away like a watermelon seed. Turbos use the same urethane as the Bombs, right? I have some Krypto clears (same as red) I might run them against the Skate Your Ass Offs just to satisfy myself.
About the hub, it seems like there's about 1.5 times the urethane on the SOH wheel; the hub is a little smaller. It seems like this wheel would have a "hub factor" somewhere between the hubs of the Krypto clear and the Exkate Turbo. Actually I just measured it and the SOHs have 27 mm of wheel from hub to wheel surface vs. 21 mm for the Exkate Turbo. The 70mm Kryptos have a discus-shaped "pizza cutter" hub that leaves 21mm of wheel at its highest point. Really, though, the wheel envelops the hub on all sides with urethane and at both sides there's no hub at all. Call it a partial hub design.
One last thing - where does it say "Skate Your Ass Off?"
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Deep Sockets
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On 10/8/2000 Pre-School Rider
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Ryan,go get a deep socket,in U.S. 1/2",that fits a good old 3/8" drive socket wrench,Or go to www.oldschoolskates.com and buy the ol'Elephant skate-wrench.I'd recommend the Gull-Wing six-pack pocket tool,but I can't remember if it's reach is deep enough for the Cubic 3's or early Bones.
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conical wheels/bones/nut
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On 10/8/2000
Ryan M
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Just dug out an old thrashed board out of storage, with Bones street cubics circa 1984-85. Too bad that like Sims streets these guys have really offset hubs with a lot of space between the bearing and the outer edge of 'thane, and they're on tracker sixtracks with the wide axles, and so far today no skate tool I've tried can get to the nut to take them off. Any suggestions? Socket wrench, what size? there's like at least 3/4 inch of axle before the nut...thanks!
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SOH Blanks
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On 10/7/2000
kaylee
wrote in from
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Actually, a search on "haight" gives better results. $60 for a set of 8, that's a set of $30 beauties for you and your friend.
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Skate Your Ass Off
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On 10/7/2000
Kaylee
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Oops, I see now that you got them at Skates on Haight too, so forget my question of where you scored them, Ben. I've seen the Envy wheels Herbn is talking about, and although they have the same specs, the hub size is different and the mold is way different. The Envy's are more square. I haven't seen the Madrids. But, as was the case with Beer City grip tape, who makes them matters not as much as how kick ass they are.
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"Skate Your Ass Off"
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On 10/7/2000
Kaylee
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Yeah, I've been riding these (and posting about them) for quite a while now. I've been calling them SOH blanks, because I got them at Skates On Haight and they are no-namers. Where did you get them, Ben? Don't you just love these wheels? The wheel size/hub size ratio is way bigger than most hubbed wheels, and they just plain REFUSE to slide! If you search "SOH" on this site you'll see all the posts I've made on them. Anyone else out there riding these diamonds in the rough? Give them a chance, you'll be suprized.
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Generic Envy wheels
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On 10/7/2000 Herbn
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Those clear and crome deals sound like Envy wheels,or whatever company makes them (really pours urithane)call up Envy and ask them to hold the phone in the direction of the wheel making machine,you want to hear it,eeh didn't think so.Madrid has those too,-crome on the core,and with a grey tire.
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"Skate your Ass Off" wheels
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On 10/6/2000 Ben
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I got these wheels from Skates on Haight here in San Francisco.
They're not labeled; that's what I was told the brand was. They're 76mm, narrower than Exkate Turbos and have a smaller core than the Turbos.
Clear urethane, the core looks like chromed steel and looks like a sport wheel for a car.
I took these with a set of Exkate 201s with black bushings out onto a set of tennis courts to see how they felt.
I could not slide them no matter what I did. I'd kick as fast as I could, squat and try to rip a backside slide.
They would just bite, hiss and turn every time - not even a chatter. I was able to slide the Turbos on RIIs on the same surface doing this, although they gripped pretty hard too.
Anybody else ride these? Is it the trucks? This really surpised me.
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Centered hubs/bearings
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On 10/6/2000
roger
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Except for Xtremewheelz that got it right, nobody appears to have centered bearings larger than 65mm. Exkate did at least center the hub (but not on the M-80). Wide hubs makes a big difference, anyone ever cone out Exkates or Aluminators?
On my wishlist is a 76mm Aluminator with centered hub, centered bearings, and 12mm spacers.
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Center Set
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On 10/6/2000
Hamm
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Mark,
Both Kryptonics and Power Paw DO make centered bearing seats.
Dave
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