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Sector Nine Wheels
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On 12/31/1999 Omar
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What is up with all this talk about people hating Sector Nine? I mean this guy writes about how they ripped him off, he tells everyone that S9 sucks, and then it turns out the guy was a jerk off when he wrote to S9, and S9 didn't even make the wheels. It's clear that S9 wasn't at fault, and this guy is an idiot. I mean, can we please just drop it?
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About melting wheels
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On 12/31/1999
Manu
wrote in from
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Thanks to rené for saying all that interresting details about
bearings and cores, just a short notice, i saw in the past when
i was using the incriminate S9 wheel or kryptos that when they
were used and conical they didn't melt anymore, at least at speeds
under 40 mph while, when they were new they melted as soon as you
went fast ? Paradoxical, because the smaller and used a wheel is ,
the fastest it turns and overheats !
So there's probably a mechanical problem between i can't explain
at the moment, maybe rené could help us !
Just an advice my Friends when you buy a wheel, just read what is
written on the inside face, sometimes and particularly on kryptos
and old S9 70mm it was written : 30 MPH MAX ...
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S9
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On 12/30/1999 DT
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I dont think its fair to take sides with sector 9 or sean. i am not so sure i believe sector 9, they probally get thousands of emails a year, why would they remember one from 7 months ago. I personally dont like them because i feel that they dont put much back into the sport, or at least not in the U S.
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76'rs
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On 12/30/1999 rene
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Just to add a bit more, bearings will heat up and melt the wheel core, I've seen it happen (thats why lube is so important)...I repped krypto for 9 yrs. and we had some problems back when, also when I was shooting some shots of Bob P., The Duck, Wade Sokol, Bob was on some kryptos and I mentioned the wheel melt down,and he said "I have never melted a krypto" that afternoon he did his first one and now belives me. Point is that core you guys are talking about was/is the same envy uses and the others I mentioned, so stay on cherry bombs or power paw's as those cores are made of better bondable material (estelock) its a urethane based nylon, cause nylon won't bond to urethane, it holds onto the hub cause of the mechanical interlock..the Aluminators don't have a mechanical interlock because they use a patented system called "chemfused" that makes the urethane stick to the hub, its stronger than the urethane (tensil) so the thane would split befor the bond would.
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On 12/30/1999 Herbn
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its amazing how this story evolved, shortly after my midday trip to the site ,Sector calls to see if I need any more stuff(product to you adults),the page was still on my screen ,so I clue them in on the goings on,the various sides of the issue and they couldn't wait to get on and defend themselves. They have been pretty cool businesswise and I guess they're the biggest target for problems like this.
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S9 Wheels
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On 12/30/1999 Zap
wrote in from
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After reading very carefully all the postings aboy this S9 incindent I must say that on one hand Sean should known that S9 boards comes with S9 wheels. BUT, as he probably didnt know that why couldnt Marcus @ S9 just tell him that or this Corpoman dude? Obviously he must have seen the wheel when Sean went to Chicago.
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S9 Wheels
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On 12/30/1999 Sector 9 Skateboards
wrote in from
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This is in response to Seans continued attempt at slandering our company. First of all, we do not even make a red route 70mm wheel, that is made by an entirely different company (who I will not mention) not associated with Sector 9 at all. We have never even purchased or assembled any of our boards with these wheels. Maybe, the store you bought the board from assembled the board themselves?? Do you honestly feel we should replace something we did not make?? Trust me, if we make it, we stand behind it 100% and I'm sure that many of you out there reading this have experienced the true customer service we provide. Sean, why would you not ride and wait 6 months for a company to give you a $7.00 wheel that they don't even make or sell. In my opinion, if you were to channel this ill perceived negative energy into some productive positive energy. This wouldn't be such a big deal, because you would finally realize this was not our product and in doing so you would be able to move on, get a job and afford the $7.00 wheel. Before you slander the next company who didn't do anything wrong. Try getting creative and working your freaking ass off for the next 6 years of your life and maybe, just maybe, you will be part of the next company getting the short end from somebody that has never even met you. Finally, if I could squeeze a tissue through these tiny fiber optic lines to wipe your tears, I surely would.
Over and out,
Chief Niner
Steve
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Yay Chris!
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On 12/30/1999 A New Guy
wrote in from
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I totally agree with you Chris. The way I see it, if retailers
are supposed to be the middlemen between end consumer and
manufacturer, they should be the only ones to deal w/ the
manufacturer. If there is a manufacturer's warranty, let the
shop deal with the warranty after you turn in the broken part.
A non-skateboarding example: My CD-ROM drive broke under
warranty. I asked the shop where I bought it about warranties,
they had crappy service and said I'd have to talk to the
company. I did, and it would entail paying shipping on a drive
that shouldn't have broken in the first place. I didn't want to.
I bought a different (more reputable) brand of drive.
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Defects in General
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On 12/30/1999
Chris
wrote in from
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I've been coming to this site for about two and a half years now, and there's one thing that I've always thought was strange. How come whenever somebody buys a defective product, they seem to think it is their responsibility to go directly to the manufacturer. If you bought a clock radio at Sears, and it broke after a week, you wouldn't write a letter to Sanyo asking for a new one. You'd haul your butt down to Sears with your receipt, they'd give you a new one.
Why should it be any different with skate gear? If you buy a set of wheels, and the core on one of them pops out the first week, take it back to the guy who sold it to you. If he's reputable, he should just give you a new wheel, and your problem's solved. If he's not willing to do that, you should take your business elsewhere.
Manufacturing defects occur in almost any product. If there's an obvious defect, I would think that it is the retailer's responsibility to replace the defects, and then they go to the manufacturer/distributer or whatever and get a replacement/credit. Remember you didn't buy your skateboard from Sector 9, you bought it from Joe's Skate Shack. Joe should stand behind what he sells just like any Sears or any other retail business.
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Sector 9 Wheels
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On 12/30/1999 Sector 9 Skateboards
wrote in from
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For the worlds reading enjoyment, check out the actual emails that Sean (scarab2020@aol.com) sent to us:
Email #1: (note especially the brand of wheel mentioned)
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Pastafarian420@aol.com
>To: reply@sector9.com
>Date: Saturday, December 25, 1999 9:51 PM
Subject: Just wondering
I have been waiting patiently for more than 5 months for you to send me the replacement Red Route 70mm wheel. I meet Corpoman at the Chicago warped tour,He was cool when i showed him the wheel. I wrote you guys quite some time
ago under the name Scarab2020@aol.com. I talked to Keith@ sector, and he told me that it would be in the mail. I was just wondering if you treated all your customers like this. No offense just wondering, Later on, Sean
Email #2:
----Original Message-----
From: Scarab2020@aol.com
To: marcus@sector9.com
Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: Just perfect you strokes
In a message dated 12/29/99 2:24:30 PM Central Standard Time
marcus@sector9.com writes:
Hey, hold your breath 'cause it isn't on it's way. p.s.do you treat all skateboard companies like this? later guy. marcus @ sector 9
there is sooooo much animosity towards your company. I have been waitning forever and a day for that so my broke ass can skate. rest assured that nobody i know will ever sport any product of yours. I appreciate you help with this matter, and i would like to thank you and the company, for making quality skate products that last maybe six fucking days ( that is exactly how long i skated it before it broke.) ( and yes I treat people like this,
who exploit longboarders. It is pathedic....... you know I never understood anyones complaints about your company until now. see you on Ncdsa.
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S9 Wheels
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On 12/30/1999 Sector 9 Skateboards
wrote in from
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First of all it was NOT a Sector 9 Nineball Wheel, it
was another brand of wheel, but we don't feel the need to slander a company on one bad wheel. Obviously, we are not responsible for another companies wheels.
Whichever shop Sean got his board from must have set up the deck with components other than what we use here at Sector 9.
And finally, we treat our cutomers and all people in general with the same respect they show us and we take pride in our excellent customer service. Sean seems to have neglected to post his pissy/rude emails that he sent to us...
On a happier note we would like to take this opportunity to say thanks to everyone for their support.
Have a Happy and Prosperous New Year!!!
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S9 Wheels
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On 12/30/1999 Sector 9 Skateboards
wrote in from
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First of all it was NOT a Sector 9 Nineball Wheel, it
was another brand of wheel, but we don't feel the need to slander a company on one bad wheel. Obviously, we are not responsible for another companies wheels.
Whichever shop Sean got his board from must have set up the deck with components other than what we use here at Sector 9.
And finally, we treat our cutomers and all people in general with the same respect they show us and we take pride in our excellent customer service. Sean seems to have neglected to post his pissy/rude emails that he sent to us...
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sector
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On 12/30/1999 Sean
wrote in from
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By the way If I appear too be a dick, just think about how you would feel if you waited for over seven months for a wheel, and went out of your way to make sure that somebody knew about the problem, just to get treated like one of the sectors many minions. Maybe I am just an asshole, but It is after all a wheel, a wheel that i skated for six days before it broke, and a wheel that I have been waiting seven months to recieve in the mail. Later on
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sector
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On 12/30/1999 Sean
wrote in from
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Solution: You go to the same skate shop, buy ONE wheel. From
the sound of the response you got from Sector, they probably
didn't like the tone of your email.
I webt to the skate shop the next daym but they told me that they couldn't order just one wheel, they had to come in fours.
In response to the fact that I am being rude, I am sorry for whoever I offended, I just want you all to know the truth in this matter, and not fabrications. so I wanted you to see the exact email that was sent to me.
And Manu, thank you for your offer, but I would never feel right taking one of your wheels. that just spreads the same bs that i am taking to you also. Thank you very much I sincerely appreciate it.
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s9 wheels
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On 12/30/1999 Herbn
wrote in from
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by the way ,I didn't say sector9 was doing right,they should definitely send Marcus atleast one wheel,they usually need to get the bad product back from the customer, send it registered mail,or UPS so the have to sign for it send the whole set.
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Wheels
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On 12/30/1999 Herbn
wrote in from
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Someone is being a dick,I'm not sure,but Sean/Marcus didn't bother to post the Email he sent to sector. On obvious defects,wheels breaking in half,smooth deck delaminations, or trucks cracking with no apparent stresses, companies have always been very good,and I'm a shop owner,they usually treat the kids(actual customers and true source of all revenue)even better, By the way I think spliting wheels happen when there is a half finnished wheel in the mold at the end of a batch and the person reloading the machine doesn't pull it out and just put another batch of urithane in the machine.
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sector 9
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On 12/30/1999 Matt
wrote in from
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There is an age old adage. "The customer is always right." They guy just wanted a wheel. It shouldn't be that hard to replace. For god sakes he took a dive thanks to their wheel. The least they could do is send him one. I'm sorry but that is terrible customer service.
If you want service see Mr. Randal. I split a bushing on my R2's. I emailed Randal to find out what kind he uses. He said just give me your address I will send out new ones. There was a new set and some stickers on my door two days later. Take note S9 people. If you can't
keep up with your customers then you should hire someone to do it. It is really important if you want return customers. I don't skate S9 products, I might in the future, I have nothing against them but I think this kid got screwed. Kids like him keep you in business, don't forget that.
Appologies if you aren't a "kid" marcus.
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Sector 9?
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On 12/30/1999 A New Guy
wrote in from
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You when to the warped tour and spent $30, wasted time at
the Sector 9 booth to ask about a $7 wheel. So you got a bad
wheel (the other three are still in good shape right?).
Solution: You go to the same skate shop, buy ONE wheel. From
the sound of the response you got from Sector, they probably
didn't like the tone of your email.
I understand you're probably pissed off at them. But realize
Sector 9 is a fairly large company. For example, Marcus took
4 days to reply to your email. Do you think your email was
the only one he had to look at? (BTW, it's considered pretty
rude to post email on public boards w/o permission of the
author. Not illegal, just rude.)
Just chill. Plenty of people (including me) have been totally
satisfied w/ Sector 9 products. You can be too.
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Sector nine wheel
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On 12/30/1999
Manu
wrote in from
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Hey guys,
this is Manu, a lot of you already knows me, it make me a lot of pain to read what i read about Marcus, Sector 9 and Ryan's answer.
Now, lot of you know i'm a S9 rider in speed-downhill, i'm not depending on S9 USA, but i can reach them easily.I appreciate the way Ryan
likes S9 products, he is sometimes right, but Marcus isn't an asshole, he is just a poor rider who has a problem with his wheels and i don't
think S9 would consider him as an asshole.
What i can do as a rider,(EXCEPTIONALLY !) is to try to repare that misunderstanding between Marcus and S9, and if Marcus wants to send me his
address and so on, i'll try to send him wheels or make s9 send him some !
Don't fight brothers!
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Sector9 buyers beware...........
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On 12/29/1999
Sean, but you can call me the Incredible Marcus
wrote in from
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Just wanted you all to know a little story. I bought a set of sector9 wheels from a local skate shop, and everything was peachy for 5 days. On the sixth day I was bombing a hill, and my front heelside wheel just broke into thirds, and flew off my hanger. When i got up, and checked out my wounds I realized that my longskate suffered the most. My hanger, and two of my swiss bones bearings were ruined. That sucks, but it isn't my point. I emailed sector that night and told them about my mishap, and asked them if they had some kinda warranty, or what not for their products.
They seemed really cool about the whole thing they told nme that it would be in the mail, and I should expect it within three or four weeks. So I thought that their company couldn't be as bad as I had read about on this webring. To my dismay I was completely wrong. But anyway back to the story. This happened in the middle of last may. I checked my mail everyday for their wheel, but it never came. I waited until the middle of july, and decided to waste the $30 and an hour and a half car ride to The Warped tour, knowing that they had a stand there.
When I got there, I talked to "Corpoman." I told him about my problem, and showed him the wheel. I asked him if he had an extra wheel that he could kick down to me, because i had been waiting for 2 months already. I grew really impatient waiting all that time to skate my own board again. But he didn't help me, he was too busy drinking milwaukee's best, and handing out stickers. That was all good be cause I realized he is a buisness man :), and he had stuff to take care of. So that wasn't a huge problem either.
I ended up buying a new set of kryptonics before I went to school ( which by the way are still holding up strong), instead of waiting like a fool for a couple of more skate-less months. When I got back from school for christmas break. I emailed sector again asking about the same wheel from last may. I asked them if they treated all their customers like they have treated me, and asked them if they could possibly stay in business if thye did so. The reply I recieved 4 days later came form Marcus, Who appaerntly needed that long to whip up this amazing reply:
Subj:
Date: 12/29/99 2:24:30 PM Central Standard Time
From: marcus@sector9.com (Marcus)
To: Scarab2020@aol.com
Hey, hold your breath 'cause it isn't on it's way. p.s.do you treat all skateboard companies like this? later guy. marcus @ sector 9
This goes to show that they could give a **ck less about the quality of their products, and the opinons of their customers. I just wanted you all to know that so you wouldn't get burned by their faulty products and their lack-luster customer service. I will never represent anything that sector9 makes, because if indeed it breaks they don't care because you they already have your hard earned greenbacks.
Later all
never sport sector
Sean
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Sector9 Buyer beware
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On 12/29/1999 Sean
wrote in from
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I have a horrifying true story about our friends at sector9. I would like to let you all know that I purchased some sector9 wheels at a local skate shop, and everything was great for six days. ( this was last may) On the sixth day I was bombimg a hill, and one of the wheels just split in three peices and flew off my truck, ruining my hanger, and the bearings. So I wrote to sector9 about my little problem, and they told me that a wheel was in the mail and it should be at my place in like four weeks. "So i am thinking wow, these guys aren't as bad as allot of people make them out to be." Well July rolled around, and still no wheel,but I wasn't sweating it. I decided to goto the Warped tour when it came through that month, because i knew that Sector had a stand there, and maybe i could talk to someone about it.
So I spent the thirty bones, and an hour and a half drive to go see these fine gentlemen (lol), and not a single band. I ended up talking to "Corpoman", and I brought the faulty wheel, and asked him if he could kick me down a wheel for my broken one but he was way too busy drinking milwaukee's best, and giving out stickers to give a rats ass. But that was straight, I realized that he had a job to do and all that, No worries. After getting back from college, I decide to email them again and ask them what was up. I asked them if they treated every customer the way they treated me, and asked them how they could possibly stay in business. They replied "
Subj:
Date: 12/29/99 2:24:30 PM Central Standard Time
From: marcus@sector9.com (Marcus)
To: Scarab2020@aol.com
Hey, hold your breath 'cause it isn't on it's way. p.s.do you treat all skateboard companies like this? later guy. marcus @ sector 9"
Just wanted you all to know that they apparently could give 2-$hits about the quality of their products, and the cares and opinons of their customers. Buyer beware....
I am never going to represent anything that bares their name again. It would be in your best intrest also, because they could care less about you. They only want your dough.
Later on.
Sean
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76mm ?wheels
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On 12/29/1999
todcar
wrote in from
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I first saw these and when I saw the mold seam on them I thought they were some sort of cheapie wheel. They all look to have a seam on them right around the inside bearing. I then saw them at the local sporting good stores on some less than sophisticated deck/truck combos. Good to hear that they are a decent wheel at a fair price. I had my doubts. Hey Manu, have you tried the Power Aluminators, it sounds like you dont like a super sticky wheel which the PPaws are. I think they are very grippy -more grippy than Turbowheels. Your comment on C-bombs sliding is interesting.
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re: 76 wheels
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On 12/29/1999
Josh McBride
wrote in from
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that melting at high speeds is caused by a combination of pavement you are on, along with the durrometer. I wouldn't be suprised to hear that most wheel's blow out on the soft smooth black pavements around speeds of 55 and up. That type of street always seems to be a lot hotter than other's in my town. At least that's what I've noticed.
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Generic Wheels
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On 12/29/1999 Herbn
wrote in from
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Are you guys talking about those squarish wheels with the holey cores that come on envy boards (cromed hub) in 82a?
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76 wheels
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On 12/29/1999
Manu
wrote in from
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I agree with rene, it happened sometimes, but i can swear some of them are really resistant, several friends of mine use them on luges, Dave Rogers (who is a very fast rider ) Nicolas Gachou european champion in luge, I saw Rat sult use some too
and even if i'm not an example, i use them sometimes.
The last run i did on a 10 miles road was with the deep blue ones(clear) it was pretty fast, with 20 hairpins and max 55 mph they didn't melt.(maybe luckily !!!)
WARNING ! the 73 mm gravity or super mundos with sqare edges may melt, it happened to me a few month ago.
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