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BRIMS
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On 4/1/2006
William Arnette
wrote in from
United States
(150.216.nnn.nnn)
i must be missing something here chris, but what is keeping the BRIMS from moving around and causing noise and friction?
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plack panther?
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On 3/31/2006
Julien
wrote in from
United States
(129.133.nnn.nnn)
I'm cool off the black panthers I'd rather go with a cheap performance bearing like the reds or pleasure tools. If you want high end go with some swiss or Rockn' rons
the former have lasted me about 6 years (I actually bought them before I got my first board) and Ron's are almost entirely silent and have seemingly instant acceleration.
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Plack Panther
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On 3/31/2006
Justin
wrote in from
United States
(66.159.nnn.nnn)
Bones Reds and Lucky bearings are by far the worst bearings ever made!!! Black Panther are the best. they have lasted me two years. NEVER BUY REDS!!!!
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BRIMS?
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On 3/31/2006 Griz
wrote in from
United States
(163.176.nnn.nnn)
Hey Chris!! So does this mean your going to make these "Brims" for
use with Biltins or what? Looks good.
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Never mind
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On 3/30/2006
JBH
wrote in from
United States
(70.249.nnn.nnn)
Oh, sure, NOW it works with Firefox... :-)
Feel free to delete.
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Black box problem
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On 3/30/2006
JBH
wrote in from
United States
(70.249.nnn.nnn)
Adam, I tried to post this using Firefox 1.5.0.1 and even when I entered the black box number, it didn't recognize it. IE 6 worked fine.
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Rim shots
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On 3/30/2006
JBH
wrote in from
United States
(70.249.nnn.nnn)
The inner, plastic Rims are darn near useless. Most of them tend to be a bit warped, so they rub on the bearing and make an annoying whispery noise. They tend to crush a bit when you tighten your locknut down nice & tight also. And the inner diameter hole is 5/16", which means they won't work on 8mm axles. I just throw them away.
I think the "outer" Rims (the actual locknuts) work really well, though. They eliminate the need for a speed ring, and even with Biltins they do a pretty good job of keeping dust off the shield or seal.
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B-Rims
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On 3/30/2006
RocknRon
wrote in from
United States
(68.69.nnn.nnn)
Killer !!! I would definatly use 'em !!
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Inside Job
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On 3/30/2006
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
It looks like you're right. I see them in the backround. So why not just use the plastic pieces inside and out and a narrower locknut if necessary?
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rims
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On 3/30/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
i think they come with a plastic shield for the inside,it presses around the speedring.
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B-Rims
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On 3/30/2006
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(72.67.nnn.nnn)
Rims don't do anything to prevent stuff from getting into the bearings closest to the hanger, and "speedrings" can vary in width. The Biltin washer maintains a constant distance between its face and the side of the outer race. This means that a simple Biltin Rim kit consisting of a narrow locknut and two external seals could seal the deal.
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Hugh & BWII
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On 3/30/2006 Chris Miller
wrote in from
United States
(64.128.nnn.nnn)
He should be done in about 6 or 7 more years. You know, testing bearings is a bitch.
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BW II
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On 3/30/2006 matthias
wrote in from
Germany
(85.178.nnn.nnn)
Will there ever be any conclusion or some impressions on BWII on hughs page?
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Rims
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On 3/30/2006 Ian
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(80.177.nnn.nnn)
I have, and do use Rims. I find that they do work OK for keeping bearings cleaner, even Biltins. I have to say that the threads and alignment on some of the Rims I have is not very good. If they were better quality I would recommend them. Also I don't like the inner plastic shields.
Why don't any bearing manufacturers include a secondary cover to keep all the crap out?
Ian
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Rocket bearings
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On 3/28/2006 Kludy
wrote in from
United States
(64.60.nnn.nnn)
I would be very into testing the rockets. I need to find something just a little faster in the bearing area. Bearings is the only sponsor I dont have. Have tested alot of them and still looking.Kludycrew@cox.net
I am a speedboard racer and will put any bearings to the test, forsure!
My next race is next month and would love to win to keep me close in points.
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Rims
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On 3/28/2006 Schralpsey
wrote in from
United States
(163.176.nnn.nnn)
I have some Rims on one of my boards, and they do keep a lot
more dust off the bearings. I can't figure out why people have
such negative feelings about them. All they claim is protection
of your bearings, and they live up to that claim. I think they're
great for oiled bearings. Unless you enjoy cleaning your bearing
of course.
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Rims on Biltins
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On 3/28/2006 Schralpsey
wrote in from
United States
(163.176.nnn.nnn)
No, they are rendered unfunctional by putting them on Biltins.
You would essentially have 2 "speed rings" which will put too
much distance between the Rim and the bearing. You can just find
a washer the same size as the Rim instead. Although CC wouldn't
approve of such a thing. Which is why you should do it.
I personally wouldn't have bought anything made by CC if I could
go back and do so. Just like I would never buy anything PVD produced.
What a couple of "tools".
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extra seals for biltins
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On 3/27/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
do those weird axle nuts with extra sheild protection work on biltins? rims their called rims, the extra built in speed ring might reduce the effectiveness of the rims by opening the gap between the rims and the bearing, i don't use these little gimmicks but i have heard that they do work.
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Seal the deal
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On 3/27/2006
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
The first runs of Biltins have all been with shields, and not seals. There's no friction like that of a seal. A shield doesn't touch the inner races of the bearing. This allows more stuff to get into the bearings, and it also allows you to get stuff OUT of the bearings more easily, without having to actually take apart the entire bearing. It's a compromise. Seals that contact the race provide more friction, but they do a better job of keeping things out of the bearings. They also prevent things from coming OUT of your bearings, making them harder to clean. Again it's a compromise. Non-contact seals (labyrinth seals) provide a nice balance between the two. Again, it's a compromise, as it allows more than a contact seal, but less than a shield.
Leaving the inside unsealed on a standard 608 bearing provides an opportunity for stuff to get into the inside of the wheels by slipping in between the axle and the inner race because the washers, locknuts, and cast hanger ends don't provide any type of seal. They are usually left loose and untighten with an ultra-thin lube so that a tiny wheel can win the "spin test" award - the most inane test ever devised for determining the speed or performance of a bearing. Because the locknut and hanger are compressing the two solid steel races of a Biltin together, there's no room for anything to get into a bearing that way. And a simple change from shields to various seals can help Biltins from letting stuff in around the inner race. I'm on it.
We don't skate in clean rooms, and so a certain amount of cleaning is necessary. I didn't want to make maintenance a time consuming chore, and so I went with shields in the first runs, for out and out speed. Future versions will be whole lot cleaner, without being noticebaly slower in the real world.
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Biltin seals
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On 3/27/2006
WAX
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
next time you have a builtin off, hold it up to the light, and look thru the pretty gap between the inner race and the shield...Id bet it wouldnt do too well in or around dusty areas, or in our case...around Magnesium Chloride sprayed roads..Great idea, poorly executed in my opinion, but I am sure CC will take care of that, its just one of those horribly expensive/slow payback problems
and as for the speed rings...they are cut into the ends of my precision 8mm randall DH trucks and on the inside of the axle nuts, so its not an issue (oh the joys of having a hitech machine shop at your disposal)
Dan...shoot me an email, I lost yours
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Biltin seals
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On 3/27/2006
bara
wrote in from
United States
(204.78.nnn.nnn)
How tight are the seals on the biltins?.....can they handle the really fine stuff? (like the salt dust that kicks up during a Michigan winter)
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Skate More, Wrench Less
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On 3/27/2006
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
I run a spacerless, washerless shop. Once you've been there, you can't go back to all of the frustration and vibration of a standard 608 bearing, cheesy little washers (oh forgive me, "speed rings"), improperly sized aluminum spacers, and the inablility to tighten up the system and eliminate slop and friction from vibration. I want to set it and forget it. Biltins can and will be improved, with some great new options comin' down the road. I still have some testing in real world conditions to do...
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re:
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On 3/27/2006 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
WAX whats up? haven't heard from u in awhile! man rockets are killer but from what i've experienced biltins are the ultimate downhill bearing... SO FAR... CHRIS, it's true they've seen the podium plenty, but have you ever ridden the new dh rockets? do you know what they look like or how they're constructed? do you know anything about them? i love love love biltins, but they CAN be improved upon even in their onw design, so i think it strange to hear an end all like "keep it simple" from the man who is all about progression when it comes to 6-wheelers, etc. everything can always get better!!! i haven't tried the new rockets yet, so i can't stand up for them, but i have to stand up for the idea that there could be something better than biltins and that bearings are indeed improving.
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608 w/snake oil?
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On 3/26/2006
caddy
wrote in from
United States
(206.135.nnn.nnn)
608 w/snake oil?
can you hear this?
ROCKET NATION!!
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Keep It Simple
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On 3/26/2006
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(72.67.nnn.nnn)
Biltins in Gumballs = Podium Sweeps
Anything else is just another 608 with snake oil.
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