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Herb N
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On 3/19/2003
Arab
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It seems Herb N is a bit miffed that he hasnt got any attention lately, So tommorow here on the GONG Show, its
"All Herb All Day"
Herb you get to be the guest tommorow, its all yours pal! What do you want to talk about?
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WAR
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On 3/19/2003 Arab
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Binky-That was a good one, WAR/Sly Stone.
Funny little story, When I use to work for the Vandals around 1981 ish? Some fan wanted to do an interview with "the band", this guy kept saying "I realy enjoy the bands music", "can you tell me something about the band", "does the band plan to tour soon", "I heard the band is planning a live album", "Since your album came out, the band is my favorite" ETC.....
So Joey the Drummer at the time responds to the guy,
"The Band"
For about six years, from 1968 through 1975, the Band was one of the most popular and influential rock groups in the world, their music embraced by as seriously as the music of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones. Their albums were analyzed and reviewed as intensely as any records by their one-time employer and sometime mentor Bob Dylan........."
The Kid never mentioned "The Vandals" He just kept sayin "The Band"!!, Can you imagine what this little Punk Kid whose favorite band just sent him the Bio of some 60's rock band thought?
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what is this page?
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On 3/19/2003 herbn
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i still don't understand the function of this page,longboards? downhill? other pages deviate a bit off topic occasionally ,but what does the title even mean?who is arab?why does HE get a page? i read a bunch hoping to find something skate related ,but all i found was a bunch of diverse rhetoric, how about a different site altogether and connect it to Ncdsa.com on the web page ,might i suggest Blahblahblah.com.
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draft
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On 3/19/2003 GD
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BTW The draft ended on Jan. 27, 1973.
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Oil facts
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On 3/19/2003 Glen D.
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top 20 US suppliers
1. Canada 14.4%
2. Venezuela 13.2%
3. Saudi Arabia 12.4%
4. Mexico 10.1%
5. Nigeria 8.5%
6. Iraq 5.8%
7. Norway 3.3%
8. United Kingdom 3.3%
9. Angola 3.1%
10. Colombia 2.9%
11. Algeria 2.2%
12. Kuwait 1.8%
13. Gabon 1.6%
14. Argentina 1.1%
15. Brazil 1.1%
16. Aruba 1.0%
17. Ecuador 1.0%
18. Trinidad & Tobago .9%
19. Russia .9%
20. Belgium .8%
The total from OPEC is 44.8%. The majority of US oil comes from other sources. Our current gas prices are mainly due to the events in Venezuela.
The Persian Gulf states supply less than 20 percent of U.S. petroleum imports. We have only started getting oil from Iraq since 1997. If it was only for oil, it would make more sense for us to go into Canada, Venezuela, or Mexico. I don't deny the oil connection as a possible factor but I don't buy that it's a big factor.
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murdering
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On 3/19/2003 jonnyx
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binky- figures from UNHCR
shrox - seems you have heard of palestine, so no doubt you will know all about UN resolution 232 and how the US has repeatedty vetoed implementation.
palestinian suicide bombers are villified yet they are defending their country against an occupying force.
When colonel H jones took the pins out of two hand grenades and jumped into an argentine machine gun nest with them we gave him the Victoria Cross, yet it was accepted that it was a suicide assault in his commendation. One rule for them, one for us.
the arab world knows the extent of your hypocrisy and that is why this war carries greater risks than last time around. Bush has acheived his aim of sidelining the UN so he can claim impunity in foreign affairs. Bush has such limited international support because we know that this is the beginning of the final push for global economic and military domination, as well as the fact that no-one likes a god botherer. Make no mistake he beleives he is on a mission from god to defeat evil and protect Gods people(ie citizens of the USA).
Billy Graham is on record claiming that he influenced dubya to run for the presidency by telling him that it was gods will for him to do so. I'm all for allowing people to beleive what they want but history shows us time and time again that it is no way to run a country.
If you think Bush is such a great leader in times of conflict why dont you ask him where he was in 1974 while the draft board were looking for him.
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War
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On 3/19/2003
Nima
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Oh I forgot: distraction--while we are in fear of seeing a 5th rate country invading the world, we are not thinking about the economy, business corruption, unemployment etc... Nevermind that Iraq can't even build aluminium tubes but we are expected to believe all that song and dance about the similarities between Hitler and Saddam in terms of military strength.
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300,000 dead ?
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On 3/19/2003
Binky
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Just wondering where you got your numbers ?
Some sort of reference would be nice.
Just wondering,
BC
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War
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On 3/19/2003
Nima
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What other reason other than oil can there be? They have it. We need it.
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Ignorance
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On 3/19/2003 shrox
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Try to pay attention.
Iraq signed an agreement that stated it would turn over specific items, weapons, and documents. Basically, Iraq was to deliver and present these items to the UN officials at specific dates and times. They have not done so. Rather, inspectors have had to go and hunt for them, and the Iraqi military has not been cooperative. Iraq is not complying with the UN agreement.
How can it be said that Iraq does not support terrorism? Saddam pays $25,000 in American cash to the families of suicide bombers after they blow themselves up.
Read this from Newsweek.
By Christopher Dickey - Newsweek - April 15, 2002 issue
"At wakes for Hamas bombers, it has become routine for an activist to approach the father with an envelope containing $ 10,000."
"Iraq said last week it would now up its contribution to $ 25,000 (from $ 10,000) for the family of each suicide bomber."
Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasir Arafat created Hamas, and it receives money from Iraq. It may not be allot of money, but it obviously supporting terrorism.
Of course we are dependent on oil. What will you do if the oil stops flowing? You drive and use plastics don't you? That is just the most superficial aspect of your life that is connected to oil. Get a clue about just how intricately connected all these things are, you might not sound so foolish and uninformed.
Too many big words maybe...
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Dave Skaterbuilt
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On 3/19/2003
Darren
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Bang On Mr skaterbuilt well spoken, You Rock like your boards do....
I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that the whole thing is a big scam for OIL ..
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war
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On 3/19/2003 jonnyx
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glen d,
when he gassed the kurds he did so with the full knowledge that Thatcher and Reagan supported him in doing so. hell, they even resupplied him afterwards. Why dont we hear calls for those citizens of the west who lined their pockets supplying himwith WMD to be brought to justice? cos that includes Reagan, Bush SR, Cheney, Rumsfeld (who actually brokered the anthrax deal) Thatcher, Callaghan, Chirac the list goes on
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Land of the Free
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On 3/19/2003 NIMA
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Nima, Land of the free...you can do what you like...so can I..even if it means insulting you..
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do the math
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On 3/19/2003 jonnyx
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hi kids
lets see at least 300,000 iraqi civilians died at the hands of the coalition in 1991
only a fraction of this number of american dead would finish Bush and force the troops home.
Mathematics is a precise science
All human life is equal
Discuss
Sean D, i do not have 1st amendment rights. Since the patriot act was invoked i have no human rights, no access to lawyers, nada. open your eyes there are hundreds, no, possibly thousands of people on earth who are not US citizens. ok, maybe not that many.
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War
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On 3/19/2003
Stinky Kinky Chucklins
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WAR . I never liked them very much. My sister had one of their albums . Not enough guitars. Now Sly and the Family Stone, that was a group ! I did used to sing The words "RoadRider " to their song "LowRider". That was pretty cool. Other than that I just didn't like them that much.
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War
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On 3/19/2003 Glen D.
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Wow a lot of extreme stances here!
Bush is the anti-christ? Waste a bunch of US boys?
"scary evangelicals" ?
you don't have to agree with the President but to then turn him into some kind of monster is a childish reaction to a policy that was supported by our Congress. Bush does not have the power in this country that Saddam has in his country. Bush is not making solo decisions, he doesn't have that power.
Congress can shut him down and would if not for the evidence, much of which the public probably can't know about because it would jepordise the lives of the sources of that information that we have in Iraq. Saddam can solely decide to gas the Kurds, 5,000 dead and other 15,000 with birth defects or permant injury. He did that because he doesn't like their kind.
Is Saddam the only bad guy out there? No. I would like to see the same thing happen to Saudi Arabia, where people are killed every Friday for crimes like teaching alternatives to Islam or for a woman wanting to leave her abusive husband.
BTW there were 34 countries who supports the first war there are 30 supporting this one. As for the French, I heard a great quote, "going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordian". The French are now backpedaling saying if chemical weapons are used they will join. Wait, I thought Saddam had disarmed all his chemical and bio weapons and that is why France didn't think is nessasary to go in? Maybe they really just wanted to sell him more nuclear technology and didn't want a favorite client state to go away.
To state that you want to see people die is horrible and you should consider that maybe you are the anti-christ. I hate the fact that innocent Iraq's, Americans, and Australians may die. I wish that negotiations would have worked. Saddam has had 12 years to disarm. He has had multiple UN resolutions that never get backed up. the UN is like a bad parent who has taught that if you do something bad, we'll tell you to stop but won't do anything about it. Saddam has CHOSEN his course and his countries course. Saddam has CHOSEN to put his people in harms way. Saddam has CHOSEN to ignore the resolutions to disarm. He has brought this on to himself.
My "scary evangelical" prayer is that the US and Australian troops will meet no resistance and that the troops in Iraq will surrender as they did before and turn their weapons on Saddam who will also surrender. I pray that NO ONE on either side will be killed and that the people in Iraq will one day have a democratic nation where they can live without fear of Saddam and his regime. Pretty scary huh?
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War
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On 3/19/2003
binky
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The bottom line is there is not a damn thing you or I can do about it. What happens ,happens . Lets just live our lives the best we can and roll with it. Live life like you always do and thanks the good lord that we live in the best country in the world hands down. And be glad we have a president who is proactive and not reactive so we can continue to live the life we have. So with that said go to the contest page and sign up for the Kona banked slalom contest so Arab and myself can beat you.
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War
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On 3/19/2003
Nima
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Warlord: you haven't said anything worth liking or disliking. You have only lobbed insults. Insults are not arguments. So I will simply dismiss you.
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re: W A R
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On 3/19/2003
Dave - Skaterbuilt
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They bought us a real nice OIL WAR...Again...Cleaning up daddy's Gulf War sham?...Billions to the Turks...They took our $ and still don't like us...Romove a regime?...establish a new goverment?...Pipedream?...Kill innocent people-because it's "the right thing"?...More like America guarding their wonderful oil fields in Kuwait/Saudi Arabia...for all of us to use...Just staking another claim...Wait til' they see how much more it's gonna cost them to "RE-BUILD" what they are gonna blow up...Billions and billions...What about "The Homeland"?...and our security?...Socialized Health Care?...Senior Benefits?...Poverty?...Crime Rate...Drugs?...Sex? and Intrenet?...Im not against the soldiers at all, GOD BLESS EM'-I just feel sorry for them...I'm not a Democrat or a Republican...just an observer...who thinks the 2-party system is a joke...and knows that the current administration blatantly "BOUGHT" the last election right in front our faces...Saddam only threatens "their" oil interests...and Saddam isn't our biggest threat-North Korea really is...
In the words of a 1982 Funeral song written by frontman Mike Martt: "Politicians Are Sick-They All Suck My D!@k".
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NIMA
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On 3/19/2003 WAHL
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NIMA, my name is Bill Wahl...you don't like my opinions or my choice of names then you can F---K O-F-F.
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War
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On 3/19/2003
Nima
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Warlord: A point of view takes legitimacy when the person voicing that view is willing to take responsibility for it. Anonymity, allows a poster not to take responsibility for the content of that which is posted. So long as you are not willing to respect your own opinion, there are no reasons why I should.
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Bombthebejeebersoutofthem
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On 3/19/2003 WARLORD
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NIMA..........way pathetic...take your sad s#@! somewhere else.......Anyone who joins the military, especially these days knows the consequences. Besides you won't be complaining when your stocks start soaring soon and our economy gets better..foolio.."Lets have war we need the money".
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War
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On 3/19/2003
Nima
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I think statements invoking the death of our troops is just plain stupid and not worth really consideration or even a response.
Our boys and girls in the Military have no choice but to follow orders. It is up to us, the civilian citizens, to make sure that our leader?s decision to order our military personnel to kill and be killed is based on clearly stated rational and clearly stated reason based on clear facts and law.
Bush's campaign for re-election and protection of his and his cronies? portfolio by placing our boys and girls in harms way is worth consideration and lengthy and strong protest. You see, from now on, any one country has a legitimate precedent to look for in order to export its ideas. That means that the Iranian fundamentalists (among others) have now a ?legitimate? precedent to look for when in their belief the entire world would be better off under an Islamic Republic... And the Koreans of course would believe that the entire world is better off under Communism... and then there is the Bin Ladins, the Milosevic?s etc?
Once we act on the basis of "righteousness" and invoke "divinity" and we believe that we are "right" because we are "right" then we invite chaos. What scares me about Bush is his evangelical belief and the invocation of a God-given-right to intervene in Iraq--which is frightfully close to the same rhetoric used by Bin Ladin who believes he has a God-given-mandate to export his way of life... In fact, Bush?s actions legitimize Bin Ladin and his approach. After all, what is good for the goose is good for the gander? Of course we are ?right? and Bin Ladin is ?wrong? because we ?know? we are ?right? and he is ?wrong?? Trouble is convincing the world?s one billion Muslims of this clear fact!
All these of course breathe chaos in the world. We created the UN and its charter to prevent chaos. We decided, along with all the other signatories that the only time to attack another country was 1) under the threat of imminent assault, or 2) if an assault had already occurred. And even then, at the earliest possible opportunity all grievances were to be brought before the UN for a resolution. Today, if Iraq was to lunch an attack on the US troops in Kuwait, that attack would be considered legal under the UN charter while the US attack would not? The irony of it all! Once again, Bush?s policy legitimizes a Mad Man?s actions? This is chaos. This is a world upside down where the Good is legitimizing the Evil. We cannot create the UN and then only follow its rules and charter only when it suits us. What kind of credibility in the world are we going to expect if we don?t? Unless, we throw away all pretense and agree that we are in fact the imperialists we are being accused of being.
Our original idea for the UN and stability was based on the fact that chaos is not conducive to good business. Capitalism and our way of life need predictability and stability in order to grow. Chaos works directly in opposite of that by creating uncertainty and instability. Of course, Bush believes by taking over Iraq US will be able to increase oil production and thereby reduce oil prices which in turn will affect our economy (good news at least for me with my SUV). However, what it fails to appreciate is that the increase in insecurity when more and more terrorists will be willing to join groups to fight the ?Great Satan?. See, heavy-handed approach to dealing with disgruntled youth in the world has not worked. The continuing conflict in Israel is prime example. If that is any indication, we can look forward to living under a sense of fear, insecurity and Orange warning status for the next several decades?all that which is detrimental to growth.
At this point, after his failed "diplomacy" (unlike his father who was able to get the entire world behind his idea AND for them to pay for most of its costs--incidentally, Bush, sr. has been quite quiet on this whole affair which leads me to believe that he disagrees with his son?) Bush has no choice but to effectuate a regime change because if Saddam Hussein is still present during the next election, Bush will never get re-elected. He and his cronies (which unfortunately includes Powell?what a miserable way to end a brilliant career) have bet their career on this ?war.?
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jonnyx
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On 3/19/2003
Sean D
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jonnyx:
I admire your inability to be constrained by common sense or logic. However, as a veteran I find your comment(s)repugnant (don't know what this means? then look it up in websters). Aside from your, obviously, ill concieved notions regarding national defense and u.s. foreign policy, I have to assume that you I.Q. hovers around 80 to make such an idiotic comment. Regardless, your public display of insensitivity towards those that ensure your 1st Amendment right to show your ass and/or your utter ignorance makes you either an complete a#@! or a moron -- you chose.
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take it back jonny...
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On 3/19/2003
hugh r
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"On 3/19/2003 jonnyx wrote in from 195.92.xxx.xxx:
hey my personal hope is that saddam wastes so many american boys the US will no longer have the strength or the will to impose itself on other nations in future. Witness how the Boer war ended britains expansionism."
Johnny, from the lengthy conversations that you and I had previously, this statement surprizes me...
I hope you are just being inflamitory...
because this type of statement, whether you beleive it in your heart or not, is NOT one that should ever be spoken. Wishing for a tremendous loss of life is a bad thing Jonny... and voicing it here in a public forum is in very bad taste and far beneath where I have figured that you stand.
Please rethink/restate your opinion (or let it stand)
My oldest son has recently joined the military... he's a 20 year old kid who still rides his skateboard most days... never been gung ho at all... doesn't like guns... surprized the crap out of us when he joined.
Lots of young men joining our military right now... peaceful young men... I think they're being called... because they all seem to know it's the right thing to do right now.
Don't hope for their deaths... they're my kids.
HR
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