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Board Review
tahoe/ scott
On 7/27/1999 j.p. wrote in from (209.210.nnn.nnn)

Hey Scott,
Before you purchase check out the Tahoe boards cuz. you owe it to yourself.If not in the stores punch up www.tahoelongboards.com.Good luck!
J.P.

 
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Looking for a board....please help
On 7/25/1999 Scott wrote in from (24.92.nnn.nnn)

I am looking for a longboard. I live in a pretty much flat city (there are some good places to ride) I want something that can carve like a champ and is not that expesive (200 dollar limit) I want to buy a complete so any suggestions? I've been looking at S9's. Thanks a bunch

 
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Tallac 62" w/R-IIs
On 7/25/1999 Zac Heise wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

I got the guys out at Tahoe Longboards to put some R-IIs on a complete Tallac 62". Matt from Tahoe Longboards wrote me telling me that after their team tried the R-II setup right next to the standard Indy 166 setup and I guess all those guys prefered the indys but Im pretty stoked with the Randals. Matt from Tahoe said they got wheel bite with the Randals but so far I haven't, of course I don't ride in Tahoe. I haven't put the set up to the full test yet as I am injured from mountainboarding but I've had it up to decent speed, 20mph I would guess no wobble, I have double angled risers under the R-IIs and Kryptos. I've been doing a lot of surf style carving partly because Im still not fully healed and partly because I'm not used to having 2 feet of board behind me trailing through the turns and its pretty fun. Because there is no weight over the back wheels the slide really easily but not uncontrolably. Ill post more once Im fully recovered and put the board to the test, i'll prolly try it with indys eventually like Matt suggested too. Later

 
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Maria's LibTech Longboard
On 7/24/1999 Maria wrote in from (38.26.nnn.nnn)

I want to thank everybody that took the time to suggest the
perfect city board. Today I am the proud owner of a 44"x
9 1/4" Lib Technologies. I put Randall II's on, black panther bearings (abec3) and Krypto Hawaii 70mm wheels.
The Flexdex at the shop felt nice but there was something
aesthetically missing from them...
The Motherlode Baja I found beautiful, but I really wanted
a kicktail, and I felt funny about buying my first longboard
without ever having stood on it.
You have to admit the Real Wood boards are SEXY, but again Ive never seen one up close besides I dont think a broke beginner like me has any business buying a 300+$ ANYTHING...
I finally got on a S9 Super Cruiser and I thought I would go
with that until I got on this Lib Tech and what can I say,
it felt like love at first sight.
The level of craftmanship is stunning, and not only can you
SEE it but boy can you FEEL it!
The RII's are MIND BLOWING, I thought I was carving this whole time on my crappy little board!! ha ha ha I didnt know what carving on asphalt was until today.
I really feel like I can turn out of harms way in a flash, and Im powering over city crud like I never thought possible.
This is a whole new level of fun for me, you should see me
giggling to myself like a freak through the crowded sidewalks and streets of nyc.
I feel like I have to relearn my stance on the board, I was
riding too far back on the board so i almost went ass over head a few times after kicking my rear wheels also my center
of gravity feels higher up, so Im still shakey at times.
I'd be glad to recieve any riding tips......
HELLAHAPPY,
maria

 
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board
On 7/24/1999 I wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

Hey Maria, you are looking for a city board??
Check out a flexdecks... They are not to big and easy to control, plus if they get run over by a car the board won't break.

Skate Proud

 
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Envy Twintip
On 7/23/1999 Jeffrey Williams wrote in from (192.147.nnn.nnn)

I just got an Envy twintip longboard. It's the hottest carving board I've ever used. I am 5'10 and 170 lbs and it holds up great. Trucks are powerful and strong enough for me. I am interested in anyone's comments about this new board. I live in the D.C. suburbs, surf most weekends in NJ when the swells are in, but otherwise I am riding the hills in Montgomery County, MD. I am looking for other Longboarders in my area to ride with, so drop me a message if you are interested.

 
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Re:Brian Tahoe Tallac 62
On 7/22/1999 Geoff "G-money" Rivera wrote in from (216.103.nnn.nnn)

Brian, I don't know where you were last weekend but me and the boys were skating down by the boardwalk. We are all riding our longbords. Most people stop and notice us when we ride. I want to say that we were all on the Tahoe boards but we have a friend still on a S9. I have nothing bad to say about S9 except they don't have the soul that I loved when I first started riding thier boards. They hooked me as the "first longboard company" and I still have some of thier originals. I am bummed that they have strayed so far from the begining. I am happy with my Tahoe board but I hope they keep it real. I have heard noting but good things about them. That is why I will keep riding them as long as they keep making solid, smooth riding boards. I will always be on the search for a good ride, the Tahoe boards are the best that I have come across but my mind is always open. I bought my first Tahoe board from Skateworks in Santa Cruz but have since visited thier web site at www.tahoelongboards.com. I think you can order direct but if you are in the Santa Cruz area check out Skateworks, those guys are hella cool.

Geoff "G-money" Rivera

 
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XT Wheels Complete
On 7/21/1999 Zac Heise wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

Hey I set up some Xts with some indy 215s half inch risers stacked with some angled risers and some MBS freeflex bindings, the actual deck is just an old shortboard deck but since everything else is setup like a longboard i thought I would review it. Scary as hell is all I can say, the bindings aren't as easy in and out as the XT sky hooks but I thought that would be good. What I keep doing is falling off the back because the tail doesn't hit the ground for a lot longer than a standard skateboard due to the risers and the bindings don't let you take your front foot off when this starts to happen. the setup doesn't turn very well cause i have to keep the indys cranked to prevent wheel bite but its fun none the less just not in traditional longboard terms. Later

 
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J.P. and Brian
On 7/21/1999 Lono wrote in from (205.215.nnn.nnn)

Hey you guys! I too have a Tallac and live in Santa Cruz. I'm always on the lookout for local longboarders to ride with. Email me if you would like to get together.

 
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tahoe
On 7/20/1999 brian wrote in from (208.254.nnn.nnn)

Were you in Capitola last Saturday afternoon J.P.? Just Curious, saw a guy with a brand new looking Tahoe longboard...

Brian

 
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tahoe
On 7/20/1999 j.p. wrote in from (209.210.nnn.nnn)

I'm 6ft. and two hundred pounds and just bought a Tallac 62 about a week ago.If your a big rider like me this thing will truley satisfy.I have been taking full command on this beast.The flex and stability work hand in hand for high speed and bending out stoney carves.My wife and I have been working tandem and is a sure riot.Tahoe keeping the spirit alive. Thanx! J.P. Santa Cruz Ca.

 
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Re: Maria
On 7/20/1999 Neil Gendzwill wrote in from (192.107.nnn.nnn)

On 7/18/99 mule wrote in from 209.63.121.179:

>I think the supercruiser is going to be too flexy and maybe
>a little twitchy for a beginner is NYC. You might consider
>something a little stiffer and heavier.

I don't think so. I weigh nearly 200 lbs and I find the
flex of the supercruiser just right, although I'm not
a beginner. Unless Maria is unusually heavy for a woman,
she may even find the sc a little too stiff, and may want
to consider a cosmic II (so long as we're talking S9), if
she wants to pump and turn fast. If cruising is the main
concern, a super cruiser would do her very nicely. I
suggest she sets it up with some soft wheels. I started
with some old 92A wheels from the 80s I had kicking around,
and when I switched to the 78A Kryptonics it made a huge
difference.

Neil

 
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what's the right board for me?
On 7/20/1999 X-Rex wrote in from (195.66.nnn.nnn)

Well, I've been thinking about buying a longboard. I'm not into the skateboarding at all, but I would really like to be able to "control" a longboard. My question is: what is the right board for me? Because I want to use it for cruising around town and maybe do some little tricks with, like an ollie. What would u recommend me? Something like an S9 Cosmic I or II, or an S9 Supercruiser, or something like a Bare Back Performance. Please tell which board is right for me, because I want to ride it for a long time (if possible) and not have to buy a new one after 3 weeks or so. E-mail me, if you can help me out

 
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Re: Maria
On 7/18/1999 mule wrote in from (209.63.nnn.nnn)

I think the supercruiser is going to be too flexy and maybe
a little twitchy for a beginner is NYC. You might consider
something a little stiffer and heavier. A little extra
weight helps maintain momentum to power over the crud and
a stiffer deck is a little more predictable. The RII's
are a great choice- probablly the best. A hardwood deck
would stand up well to the abuse and do a nice job of dampening
the bumps. Wheels should be big ( 70mm or more )preferably
something soft with a 10mm spacer ( nice and quiet ). Email me
if you want some more ideas or specifics.

 
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super cruiser for city ride?
On 7/18/1999 maria wrote in from (38.26.nnn.nnn)

can anybody give me feedback on a longboard for NYC riding?
I'm almost sold on a Super Cruiser W/ RII's.
I need:
*something stable (i'm pretty much a beginner)
*something that will ride over all kinds of city crud
*something fast to keep up with traffic but not too fast,
because NYC is home of the 2 foot carve and i might wind up
taxi-meat.
sincerely,
maria "don't talk to me about rollerblades" martinez

 
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whatever you want
On 7/17/1999 adam wrote in from (153.34.nnn.nnn)

This Doug guy has good prices im getting a sector9 super cruiser w/ randal trucks from him for $149.00+S&H. which is the same as off the sector 9 site except better trucks. try him out

 
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G&S, Sector9, R II's
On 7/15/1999 Doug wrote in from (216.77.nnn.nnn)

If you are into these products...please see my info. under the "Buy-Sell-Trade" Catagory.
Can hook you up... - Doug

 
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TVS VS. SECTOR9
On 7/14/1999 adam wrote in from (153.34.nnn.nnn)

48" deck
indy 215mm trucks
tvs 72mm street wheels
ABEC 3 bearings
$162.00

does that sound like a good deal ? or would i be better off with a sector9 super cruiser ?

 
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re:slalom joe
On 7/14/1999 Todd R. wrote in from (216.103.nnn.nnn)

Joe, didn't mean to come down on you. I just hate roadrash, and happened to get it on my KS so it bummed me out. I'm sure you get along just fine on your boards. Allthough I probably won't be riding my KS anymore I'm sure I'll find some one to unload it to. Keep the faith.

Todd R. (and no the "R" doesn't stand for roadrash, but you wouldn't be able to tell by looking at me right now)

 
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Re: Slalom Joe
On 7/14/1999 Bricoleur wrote in from (209.244.nnn.nnn)

Wow, an honest to goodness righteous flame!

= You must work or ride for Flex dex. You obviously (if in fact you ride A kelly slater 40 or 41 whatever) don't

Well to start off, I can confirm that Joe doesn't work for
Flexdex. If anything, they're probably starting to fear
him a little bit; he's relentless about details. :)


=know how to ride a longboard. If
= you can't get wheelbite riding this board you do not know how to ride a longboard. (or you can't ride it
= hard enough to know what your are
= talking about)

Well, I posted about the Slater 40 a few days ago, and I
stand by my opinion: I like it. Admittedly, I'm not
bombing hills on it. I use it mostly for long, wide turns
at fairly slow speeds, more carving than anything else.
It's a very different feel from anything else I've ridden
but after riding a few other boards, I've yet to find
anything that's more fun in its class. And I've yet to
achieve wheelbite. I'll admit it's heavy though....



=I will rule you on any longboard you want to ride.

Cool. Do we have to pay taxes?


= sh$t. I made the mistake of riding this board one to many times, I will never make that mistake again.
=There are too many other companies
= that make boards far superior to this crap.

I'd love to know about some of them myself. Suggestions?


-John

 
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Re:Slalom Joe
On 7/13/1999 NH Slalom Joe wrote in from (199.0.nnn.nnn)


= You must work or ride for Flex dex. You obviously (if in fact you ride A kelly slater 40 or 41 whatever) don't know how to ride a longboard. If
= you can't get wheelbite riding this board you do not know how to ride a longboard. (or you can't ride it hard enough to know what your are
= talking about) I will rule you on any longboard you want to ride. If you think for one second that tightning the inferior Gullwing trucks that

*giggle* if i worked for flexdex, i wouldn't have to save my $$$ and plot and dream.

if feel for you injuries my man, but there's no need to get hostile over something i surely didn't
say or imply. i did say, pretty clearly, that i can make almost ANY board bite, just that some are harder to
get into that state. i can for sure make any flexdex i've put my feet on bite hard and fast. same
goes for quite a few other decks. is there a deck that can't bite? tell me, i'll try it out. however,
in sampling about 25 decks in stores, just standing on the damn thing, i can usually make the wheels and deck
contact.

as for "ruling"; i rule my own personal style and challenge myself. i learn from my fellows and
enjoy what i do. i'm also a chicken and don't go faster than 35mph and wear full
pro as well. i'm also told that since my longest board is only 44", i'm not a real longboarder
yet. *grin* it's all about carving for me. what's your bag?

= came on my board would have made even the least bit of difference you don't know how to LONGBOARD. I may not be as PISSED at this

so swap them, why use them? i like the gullwings, i like exkates a lot too, and after i've ridden some
Randal II's a few months (coming soon), i may find those good. what trucks don't suck?

= stupid reply if slalom joe had the least bit of a f@3$&^%g clue at what he(or SHE) was talking about. I have knarly road rash because of bad

hey, tightening the trucks works for me. in the case of exkates, a bigger bushing durometer. did you even try it?

= design. Joe, you think you know whats up, come ride in the real longboarding world, and why didn't you address the issue of being heavy as

i think the world i ride in will include a plentiful quiver of boards, each with their own quirks and personalties that i
will learn to love and hate and respect.

flexdex material is heavy no doubt. i think that's part of their charm. they have good momentum, they are pretty stable,
and i like the dampening characteristics. first time i picked up a pro41 i said "shit, this is a beast", but it didn't stop
me from buying it. the g&s 44" is lighter and rides different. i love both.

if you don't like heavy boards, why did you buy it? esp with gullwings?

design... what is a better design? i offered suggestions for fixing the slater, which seems to be a damn fine board,
with a fair amount of though put into it. it has characteristics very similar to other boards. in fact, it's profile
is practically a classic.

= sh$t. I made the mistake of riding this board one to many times, I will never make that mistake again. There are too many other companies
= that make boards far superior to this crap.

which other companies? i'll check those out. i'm sure you can sell the slater to a waiting line
of people who don't know better.

= Pissed off,
= Todd R.

keep it cool man.

Slalom on,

Joe
-=-

 
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Re:Slalom Joe
On 7/13/1999 Todd R wrote in from (216.103.nnn.nnn)

You must work or ride for Flex dex. You obviously (if in fact you ride A kelly slater 40 or 41 whatever) don't know how to ride a longboard. If you can't get wheelbite riding this board you do not know how to ride a longboard. (or you can't ride it hard enough to know what your are talking about) I will rule you on any longboard you want to ride. If you think for one second that tightning the inferior Gullwing trucks that came on my board would have made even the least bit of difference you don't know how to LONGBOARD. I may not be as PISSED at this stupid reply if slalom joe had the least bit of a f@3$&^%g clue at what he(or SHE) was talking about. I have knarly road rash because of bad design. Joe, you think you know whats up, come ride in the real longboarding world, and why didn't you address the issue of being heavy as sh$t. I made the mistake of riding this board one to many times, I will never make that mistake again. There are too many other companies that make boards far superior to this crap.

Pissed off,
Todd R.

 
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TERMINAL VELOCITY
On 7/13/1999 adam wrote in from (153.34.nnn.nnn)

does anyone have any experiance with terminol velocity completes (how they send em ) i was thinking about getting the 48 "

 
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re:KS 41
On 7/13/1999 NH Slalom Joe wrote in from (12.25.nnn.nnn)

models: isn't it the Slater 40? the current flexdexes that are
41 are the wingnut and the pro. the older pro, no longer
in production, was 36 and a blue/grey color. simply lovely.

wheel bite: i haven't stepped on a deck yet, that didn't
give me the impression that i coulnd't make it wheel-bite
if i *really* tried. the new G&S pintails are very very
difficult to do that with (one of the best i've seen for
nose carveouts; the tail is *so* thin, it can't bite).

suggestion: tighten the trucks a little, flex the board
more, and don't tilt it quite as much. let the deck do
the "work". this tip does wonders on the flexdex rippey36
board i ride. yeah, i can make it bite, but it's rough
going. the pro41 is difficult to stop that way too, the
slater looks like it has more of a point, less grab. it
might be possible to do a little carving work to fix the
issue too. soft material to carve out.

 
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re:KS 41
On 7/13/1999 Todd R. wrote in from (216.103.nnn.nnn)

Two things to say about my Kelly Slater 41: HEAVY and WHEELBITE. I have the Jesus palms to prove it (with matching elbows, knees and a hip)

 
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