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Board Review
oh, sorry...
On 7/16/2004 ss wrote in from (24.62.nnn.nnn)

...but PSR said "I Still think that Kebbek and R-II's (with either Gumballs or Avilas) would be THE setup" and over on the deck forum Duane recommed the Smoothcut with Randals and grippins

The word "still" made me think PSR was refering to Duane's post. So I guess you guys kind of think alike.

Any other thoughts on this set up? What do you guys use for bearings?

 
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We are Not Skitzo
On 7/16/2004 PSR wrote in from (68.69.nnn.nnn)

Well,yeah,were definately not the same!! I don't think Duane has ever thought his Beemer was in any way inferior to a Saab.And,I'd be inclined to agree,except that I've driven my poor 'Tessie' in a blizzard of 16" of snow. As for Duane's skating,it's fine.He just prefers to take a straighter,faster path than I do. ;-)

 
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PSR / Duane
On 7/16/2004 Duane wrote in from (68.15.nnn.nnn)

We are not the same! We hopefully both dispense some useful knowledge from time to time, like to tinker, come from the Northeast, are about the same age, didn't burn out all of our brain cells and so retain lots of old-school knowledge, and don't engage in uselless and tiresome flame wars; but we are most certainly two separate entities. You'll also see PSR's name toward the top of results, and mine, toward the bottom.

 
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oh ok
On 7/15/2004 ss wrote in from (24.62.nnn.nnn)

i see what you mean on the b-s-t forum. I get it. yes that is a package of equipment if i or some else bought that whole kit and kiboodle you have a great gs quiver, it be good for that push race too.

But the swift 40 is calling my name, though i really do like that smoothcut also. hmmm...

 
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oh yeah...
On 7/15/2004 ss wrote in from (24.62.nnn.nnn)

PSR - where can I look at UR-13? Where can I see the board you mentioned?

So which are you recommending the edm or the kebbek?

 
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thanks...
On 7/15/2004 ss wrote in from (24.62.nnn.nnn)

thanks PSR (are you Duane, too?) and K-Lee!

Reinaldo - is that the Kebbek Smoothcut in your photo?

What trucks and wheels are those?

How does it ride? What else can you tell me about?

What do you think guys, a good canididate for my race board?

 
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SilverSurfer Central Park Racer
On 7/15/2004 PSR wrote in from (24.53.nnn.nnn)

S.S.,take a look at UR 13's offerings.Right there is a 3DM deck,which is light,Fast,Stable,and able to be pump-turned.(at Da Farm last year,I rode Brian P.'s 3DM,and it just Bombed the race hill!) The Avilas are great for holding speed from one hill to the next,and are Fast,STICKY,plus having a smooth ride.Granted,I'd probably go for ABEC 11 Gumballs in 78A/81A,as they weigh less (that,and my Gumballs took me to 2nd at the Longboard Slalom during The Gathering). As for trucks(for the 3DM deck),Tracker RTS's or 150mm R-II's would provide tunable steering,where you can set it up for turniness or stability with only a bushing change or wedging.I'd go with flat riser up front,Negative Wedging at the rear for handling speed.Stimulator or Radikal bushings will help keep the Wobbles at bay,too.Put in bearings that're fast,smooth,and Sealed,not sheilded,as there's a fair amount of grit in the Park. [ Of course,I Still think that Kebbek and R-II's (with either Gumballs or Avilas) would be THE setup. ] Hope the ideas help some. Good luck Racing!

 
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My boards
On 7/15/2004 Reinaldo wrote in from (200.84.nnn.nnn)

Hello! i'm from venezuela, those are my boards

 
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distance/endurance race setup
On 7/15/2004 K-LEE wrote in from (64.106.nnn.nnn)

ss,
I entered and WON an 8+ mile push race across Albuquerque a few months ago. However, I raced from the foothills of the Sandias to the UNM campus near the Rio Grande Valley, so I think that I had more hills and less flats to deal with than you will. But there were a fair amount of flats, as well as up hill sections, so this was truly a push race. The board I was riding was a Bozi GS36 with 30*/45* Seismic 130's and 76a/80a Avila wheels. This board allowed me to bomb the hills and pump the flats but was light and agile enough to push up the hills and carry/push through the intersections. Like I said before, your race sounds like it will be different than mine, but that's the board I won on. I might ride something slightly different if the race was tomorrow, but I'm not sure what, I'd have to think about it. Probably the same type of setup but with Tracker trucks, RTS/X style, for more drawn out powerful pumps. If you have mostly flats with minimal hills and can push quickly, I'd go with a drop mounted board with either Gumballs, Avilas, or Flywheels and whatever trucks work, unless you can pump for speed pretty well, then go with a more GS-style setup like I described before. Just my $0.04

 
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decks made in canada
On 7/14/2004 soulcarver wrote in from (24.141.nnn.nnn)

hey,
im looking for a deck that is made in canada. I m a dork cause i like to buy locally and not from huge corporations. I know that there are a few other dorks around here that make boards, and not paying american would be nice.

im interested in a pin tail deck. this is a big move for me, ive gone through two 48" aggressive skate longboards, one from sector 9 and one from skull skates. i have loved both of them like my babies. The sector 9 got the tail crunched all gone before i was done, and the skull skate ended up cracking right up the middle. so now, years later, i still have my old trucks, a pair of pivots, and an upgrade of wheels, kryptonics i forget what (not too soft and not to hard)i cant remember what, and need a new board. im thinking of picking up a set of RII trucks that i have dreamed about for long time.

i haven't been back on this message board in years! and i haven't been riding hard for a year or so either!

so, if you know of any good board makers, other riders, or fun spots in the Hamilton Ontario region, let me know!

thanks!



 
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Racing set up
On 7/14/2004 silversurfer wrote in from (24.62.nnn.nnn)

O.K. I asked about decks on the deck review forum, but I wanted to ask here too. I also want suggestions on trucks, wheels and bearings.

I plan to enter the Annual NYC Central Park push race. It is a 7 mile race around Central park.

What would you guys recommend for this type of racing? I guess it has some flats and mild hills. I am not actually sure of the exact condition and terrain of the course.

I am currently training by doing multiple laps around my 1/2 mile block. I've been racing in line skaters, bicylclists and occasional skateboarders.

What would you suggest for equipment? Any training or racing suggestions/tips?

Thanks for your help!

 
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Sherman's Shrimp & Skate
On 7/12/2004 JP wrote in from (67.83.nnn.nnn)

Just wondering, I Sherman's Shrimp & Skate out of business?? I own a 52" and was (after 2 years) going back to check out their site and cannot find it. If anyone has any info on when they went out of business and why, please advise.

Thanks!

 
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V-12 (Fast Boyz)
On 7/9/2004 PSR wrote in from (68.69.nnn.nnn)

From the Vendor's Corner.. Alright,the V-12 should be running some risers,even with Stingers,but especially if you upgrade to bigger,faster wheels.Look into using a stiffer spring kit (Red?) at the rear to get better pumping power from the board.I've posted craploads of stuff on wedging trucks,however,with the new Metal seismics,running flat maybe 'just right' IF you're using the 45* up front,30* at the rear combo.The V-12 flexes a bit more than many of the faster boards out there in slalom land,so it's a tad squirrely at speed.However,it's very able in tighter courses or flatter courses,where using it's flex for a driving pump in turns can out-run boards that're too stiff.That said,you'll just have to see how comfortable you are pushing hard turns at 25+ to see if it has any G.S. potential.I really like V-12 stuff,but for going to truely competetive events,you 'might' find that board combo outclassed by the continuing progression in Slalom racing recently.

 
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fast, of course
On 7/2/2004 Duane wrote in from (68.15.nnn.nnn)

Don't worry, I've got some fast wheels lined up. I would imagine you could profile some 100mm flywheels and they would do a bang-up job. There are some urethane wheels on that site somewhere, for a street set-up. Not all pnuematics are slow, especially with 250 psi of nitrogen in them. Hope axles are 10mm.

 
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flexboardz
On 7/2/2004 Steve in AZ wrote in from (192.175.nnn.nnn)

...and then put some Urethane under it for some speed. The vids with the pneumatic tires make it seem like it's really slow.

-=S=-

 
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flexboardz
On 7/2/2004 Duane wrote in from (68.15.nnn.nnn)

I'm on their list to get one when they come out. It seems to have similar steering to the streetcarver, but also looks like there is damping of the steering arms. Also if the claim of 5.5kg is true, that's not too bad for such a board. I want to put this type of steering at the front of a skatecar, and why build it myself if someone else makes a nice one? They claim adjustability and common hardware, unlike the BMW on both counts. If you can adjust the steering response that would be cool, it should be easy to do so by having multiple holes where the steering arm and the "link" bolt together.

 
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flexboardz
On 7/2/2004 hc wrote in from (68.123.nnn.nnn)

http://www.flexboardz.com/homeuk.htm

check out the videos,
looking much better than those bmw streetcarver.

 
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grip nightmare
On 7/1/2004 K-LEE wrote in from (64.106.nnn.nnn)

SS,
Yup, I did the other grip too. Much less of a headache. Thanks, I'm glad you like them. Your comment makes the 5 day migrane almost worth it.

 
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AWESOME GRIP TAPE JOBS...
On 7/1/2004 silversurfer wrote in from (24.62.nnn.nnn)

...on both boards. Did you grip the hustler, too. You are a true grip artist.

The Comet project turned out great! Congrats.

 
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Comet Project & Huslter
On 7/1/2004 K-LEE wrote in from (129.24.nnn.nnn)

I finally have the pictures ready to write this post about my two new toys. First, I'll get the Hustler out of the way.


For a few years now I have been searching for a deck to replace my previous all time #1 favorite deck, a Beer City 8-ply that was 33" x 9.75". The main reason I got rid of the Beer City was because a 15" wheelbase is just too short for my stance, I end up with my front foot way up on the nose where I don't want it. But I liked EVERYTHING ELSE about that Beer City. I liked the concave, the stiffness, the tail, everything. So, in my search for a better wheelbase, I then moved onto a Hackett Surf Skater deck. Close, but no cigar. I got one of the early models where the wood was complete crap, but even if the wood had been better I found it to be not quite as wide and with a shorter wheelbase than I had hoped for, plus the tail was too steep for my liking. The next try was the Skaterbuilt 12" pig. This was a nice board, well built, way better wood than the Deathbox. But I don't like pointy noses (probably should've waited for the Jay Smith model), and the concave was way too deep for my feet. I have high arches, so it felt like that only my toes and my heels were touching the Skaterbuilt when I rode it, and it made stance adjustments almost impossible. I never knew concave could be too deep until I rode a Skaterbuilt. Then I was without a park/pool board for a few months. Then along comes my savior Stubbs. He helped me hook up an Afroman Hustler, and now I have exaclty what I was looking for. Everything I liked about the Beer City deck I like about this deck, and it's 3 inches longer. Perfect! Combine it with some Indy 215's (w/ Stimulators) and some Powell Bowl Bombers in the Pool Formula and you have yourself one nice man-sized park and pool board. I LOVE THIS BOARD, and since I've been riding it, I've actually been progressing a lot at the park, the style of skating that I'm weakest at. Thanks again Stubbs!

Next up is the Comet project, the Ditch Runner:


Since I was completely unable to find a deck that had just the right dimensions for a ditch board that I had been wanting to set up, I decided to shape my own. However, I don't have a garage or wood shop at my disposal, and I wanted something better than the standard plywood, so I decided to hit up Comet and see if they would sell me an uncut blank. After a little bit of pressure on my part and a ton of patience on theirs, I scored an uncut blank of a 40" Spoon Nose model. I'm not into pointy noses or tapered tails, so I went with a pseudo-pig shape. I basically copied the SMA Four Planes shape and stretched it to 40". Since I'm notorious for drilling and cutting things crooked, I had the guys at Comet drill the holes for me. I still ended up scooting the rear mounting holes up about an inch just to get the rear truck off of the tail. The way it came, the rear truck was to be mounted about half way onto the tail section, making for a more turny rear truck and the deck sitting lower in the rear than in the front. By moving the rear truck up, I got the board to feel more like a long park board, where I can ollie it pretty comfortably. The other thing I wanted to do that was different than a stock Comet board was to drill wheel wells, which was easy given the soft woods they use but nasty given the fibreglass dust everywhere. A litte trial and error led me to having some uneven and ugly yet functional wheel wells (I tell ya, nothing I do is ever straight or even). I threw on some Webb Mike Smith trucks (I would've just gotten Indy's if I had known that they weren't really 167mm like advertised) and some Gravity Super G's in 85a. The wheels feel slow in the park and a little hard on the street, but they feel PERFECT in the ditch, plus I am finding that I really like the sliding characteristics of these wheels the more I ride them. In a good ditch, they are fast and grippy but slide at will, and predictably so. I threw on a Nose Bone to protect the front end and spent 5 days doing the grip job from hell and giving myself a major migrane in the process. I learned that with a pattern like that, you can't just cut and shift the grip tape, because you'll end up shifting it in weird directions and squeezing out essential pieces of the pattern. I'm sure if you look closely enough, you'll see a lot of places where I messed up. I just got tired of this pattern after 5 days and wanted to RIDE, so this is how it turned out. I slapped two pieces of Z-skin on the underbelly & tail, to protect the 'glass. The only thing that I don't like about this board so far is that it's slightly warped, but I think it's because I live in NM, 99% of all boards warp here, too dry.

 
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exkate powerboard
On 6/30/2004 hc wrote in from (68.123.nnn.nnn)

made in china?

http://fade.en.alibaba.com/product/50021802/50110532/Skateboards/Remote_Control_E_Skateboard.html

 
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e-skateboard
On 6/30/2004 hc wrote in from (68.123.nnn.nnn)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=47352&item=3685905564&rd=1

 
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mbs atom
On 6/30/2004 hc wrote in from (68.123.nnn.nnn)

http://www.mbs.com/atom.htm

 
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powerboard
On 6/30/2004 hc wrote in from (68.123.nnn.nnn)

This is the same guy, Wade Spital, that I saw on 'tech tv'? many years back.

Guess he is hoping that someone will invest in it.

A horrible idea IMO, a snakeboard is much more interesting.

 
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Powerboard
On 6/30/2004 Dave H. wrote in from (24.13.nnn.nnn)

I want one. This thing has been proposed for years now. Maybe these new guys will get this seesaw-rocker platform board off the ground, as it were. I will review it if it ever comes out.

Dave H.

 
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