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Neil & Lukes Birhtday Wattly Jam
On 7/31/2004 hippyneil wrote in from United Kingdom  (81.155.nnn.nnn)

Sunday August 15th, Watlington, Oxon UK - Mellow get together for anyone who wants to come... longboards, shortboards, freestyle, bmx, whatever u like just come along. The more the merrier - kids of all ages & families welcome.

 
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Democratic National Convention
On 7/30/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from United States  (63.167.nnn.nnn)

Can you believe it? Can you believe it? There was not one word in Kerry's speech about putting a skateboard in every house and a skate park in every city! GeeZ! What do we have to do to get a President elected who will support an ever growing group of Americans- Skaters For Freedom? A bet ol Bush won't say a damn thing about it either when it's his turn to blab!

Roll on Brothers and Sisters! Roll on! Roll on! (and seriously, don't forget to skate by the polling place and vote. Regardless of your beliefs, it is extremely important that we all vote our conscious, vote our mind, vote our beliefs,whatever, but by all means VOTE!)

 
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So who's doing some longboarding this weekend...shout it out!!
On 7/30/2004 John Dillon, Team Fun wrote in from United States  (151.200.nnn.nnn)

I will for sure, EdEconomy,Randall 180's, No Skoolz and Bozi 36"w/Randall 150(front) Tracker on rear, Avalons; and NoKaOi Randall 150(front) and Indy (rear), Bones Park Formulah's or BDS Shogo 92a's.

 
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Workouts
On 7/29/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from United States  (63.167.nnn.nnn)

MoMatt: Great post and even better advise to all. I do the track work as well and I also run stadium steps. I go to the local high school once a week and do a series of runs to the top of the steps, walking back down the same flight, and then to the next flight and repeat. I usually set a time in either 30 minutes, 45 minutes, or 60 minutes (when I totally want to kill myself). It builds calf, quad, and hamstring muscles which all are used in skating. I also spend time in the gym and have gone from using heavy weight to focusing on lighter weights, high reps, and stretching. Of course, the bicycle still calls my name as often as I have time to do so but that has been sporadic lately.

One of the guys that rides the big hills with us on a CarveBoard (www.carveboard.com) is actually 65 years old and is more fit than most adult men I know. He snowboards, carve boards, windsurfs, and just took up kite boarding at freaking age 65! That dude is my hero! Even with a family, a very demanding job for many years, community activities and church, he always made sure to take the time for fitness. Now, here is still having the energy, strength, and stamina, to do all that he does. He is one of the 421 runners. It took him about 45 minutes to make it down the mountain this last time and I know he must have made at least a 3rd more carves and pivots than I did on that big ass Carve Board. he is the MAN!

Mo Matt! Thanks for the inspiration.

Roll on Brother and Sisters...Roll on....but stop by the gym or go run or ride a bike too!

 
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workout
On 7/29/2004 MisssouriMatt wrote in from United States  (128.206.nnn.nnn)

I've skipped my last two chances at skating to go to the track and run - 100's, 200's and 400's. I've enjoyed the skates I've had in the last six months as I've been recovering from knee surgery, but they've lacked the edge that getting in great shape can give a ride. NCL - I know you know what I'm talking about. Pushing your skating in a very physical way and having the gas in the tank to push more. Going hard down the hill drifting and sliding in turn after turn, bouncing out of one and in to the other, sucking up all the adreniline a hill has to offer, then jogging back up it, kicking out your board in front of you and attacking again. I've dropped about 10 pounds since my post surgery high of 192 and can see a day ahead where I'm not olny in as a good a shape as I was pre-surgery, but better. Only thing is... I can't get there on skating alone. Gotta cross train. For me, it's a stop watch and track. That's some gut buster way to get there for sure. That and some swimming, light weights, ab work and lots of stretching. I recomend it to all the aging skaters that don't want to see the day come when they regularly pass on a skate to drink a beer and watch TV.

 
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Test-e-poo
On 7/28/2004 Jesus Christ wrote in from United States  (66.108.nnn.nnn)

Mmmk, I just wanna see if this'll work. It's a pic I took boarding:

http://us.f3.yahoofs.com/msgr/thinkovaltine/.tmp/Photo%2b10%2bof%2b19.jpg?msikCCBBsPwQ5k0m

 
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NCL
On 7/27/2004 MissouriMatt wrote in from United States  (128.206.nnn.nnn)

Going good. Thanks for asking. Thursday will be one year out on the ACL/MCL surgery. I've been jogging and doing a variety of other exercises and stretching to get the skate flow going again. Two days ago I was feeling a bit of the bounce returning to my carve. Had some stand up slides working... just feeling it better. I love that feeling of bouncing out of one carve into the next and reaching down the hill to keep the back end from sliding out, then into the tuck and prepare for the turn at the bottom... ahhhh. Weather's been real mild in Missouri this summer. felt almost like fall when I rode on Sunday. Starting to play around with different setups again. Sure sign that riding time is on the increase. I wasn't riding enough to get bored with my set up for the last 6 months. Jogging and ab work have helped. It's amaizing how a little age effects the healing process. I've had muscle craps and strains, sore tendons, bursitis on my heal, popping back... just lots of little nagging stuff that comes with putting on 15 pounds and getting out of shape at 40. I've dropped back 5 pounds and think I'm within a month or so of really getting the groove back. When I loose another 5 to 10 pounds, I'll starting hitting the park some. Late summer and early fall are my favorite time for night riding.

I've been checkign the NCDSA board. Just laying low. Torsion trucks always push my button, so I had to chime in. Ride on, NCL.

 
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Mo Matt
On 7/27/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from United States  (63.167.nnn.nnn)

How is the injury? Was suppose to be a question. Sorry.

 
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Mo Matt
On 7/27/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from United States  (63.167.nnn.nnn)

MO MATT! How is it going? How is the injury! Great to see you posting again!


Roll on Brothers and Sisters! Roll on Roll on!

 
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Buddy's Oki
On 7/27/2004 MissouriMatt wrote in from United States  (128.206.nnn.nnn)

Going to the 68mm may be enough to avoid the bite. I was just barely getting contact with the 70mm and had extra room with 65mm, but when you're carving hard with a little speed and reaching down the hill.. or coming off a wall at the park.. that's not a good time for bite. One thing about the Torsion design is you'll know where they stop, you can max it out by getting all your weight on one wheel and rolling slowly forward, if you don't have bite, you won't have bite. They turn to a point and then stop.

They ride a little higher than most trucks, so it's nice to avoid risers if you can. You won't need risers for the turning geometry. Those trucks will turn... but I've never tried risers with 'em, so what do I know?? Hope to read more about your fun with the new board and get your thoughts on the torsion ride.

Many great times carving ahead. Ride on.

 
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torsion trucks
On 7/27/2004 buddy rawls wrote in from United States  (128.158.nnn.nnn)

I was definitely with you on the wheelbite issue. I have already tooled me up some 1/2" risers out of wood, in case it is a problem. I am either going to stick with my old 70mm reds, or get some 70mm flashbacks 81a, or some 68mm 3DM 80a. regardless the clears are coming off when I unpack, I want some personality on it.

I assume the torsion trucks geometry will respond to angled risers for tweaking the turning geometry, its all geometry, so it should work the same.

I am jazzed about getting a board, I have never even road one, except for downhill in the 70's, with steel bushings and stuff. definitely no carving stuff. It may be blast to get a long board to turn so sharp and hard.

thansk for input

 
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Torsion ride
On 7/26/2004 MissouriMatt wrote in from United States  (128.206.nnn.nnn)

Buddy rawls,
The best I can remember, I’ve been riding primarily Torsion trucks since 1997 or ’98. I love the way they ride. During that time I’ve put them on three different dirtboards, kickflippers and a variety of longboards. I think about 12 different deck styles in all. The closest thing to the Peggy Oki that I put them on is probably the freeride bowlrider. I would guess the bowlrider is a bit more concave and an inch or so longer, fat tail and five inch nose. Here are a few observations.

I don’t think the wheelbase will be as big an issue as the wheel wells.
You may need to keep your wheels down to 65mm or less. The torsions need a lot of wheel well and you probably don’t want to mess with peggy’s shape by grinding out some extra room. I put some 70mm power paws on my bowlrider and got wheel bite. I eventually gave my bowlrider to a friend because it was the shape he was looking for and I like 70mm and up for wheels. I like flat decks with longer wheelbase, so it wasn’t just the wheel bite issue that caused me to let the board go.

I loaned the bowlrider/torsion setup to another friend for quite a while and he shredded the park with it. His ridding style was well suited to this deck/truck combo. He didn’t mind the Torsion height and made good use of the tail and concave. He was getting big airs, long grinds and carving hard off the wall, pumping for speed out of the transitions. I think pumping out of the transition is one of the many torsion strengths. He had been riding exclusively shortboards and liked the bowlrider much better than the other decks I had him try with Torsions.

As the wheel base gets shorter the trucks get more sensitive to the deck’s concave. The Xtreme Wheelz 36” dirtboard, set with 65mm kryps and Torsion trucks was a freaky ride. Lots of concave, short wheel base for torsions and double kicktail. It could turn an incredibly tight radius and ride on the two wheels on the inside of the carve. I could even work a one wheel wheelie by carving very hard with my weight all up front or all to the back. It was a stiff deck with a supper springy feel to the trucks. The concave and short wheel base seemed to add to the feeling of height, which I eventually decided I didn’t like. The 36” now has tracker B-2’s and is ridden by my son.

My preference for the torsion truck is 38” and up, flat decks with max wheel base and max wheel well. A setup like that gives a very fluid carve and has a lot of spring back to center in and out of turns. I’ve made 7 decks myself just to fit the torsion ride, including a 42” dirtboard that allows for 112mm wheels with out risers (or the 99.5mm slicks – both sick!) Some people don’t like the return to center, but I love it. I think the Torsion trucks work better for riders in the 170 pound and up range. It takes a little weight to get the leverage you need. I like the torsions best on my 44” freeride crosstown (11 ply birch, flat, no tail or nose). With the 70mm 74a flashbacks and good bearings it’s a smooth carving ride.

Let me know what you think when the trucks get there.

Hope you love ‘em as much as I do. If not, try ‘em on something flatter with lots of wheel well and wheel base.

Matt

 
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longboards and truck selection
On 7/26/2004 buddy rawls wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

I skate a lot and have since the mid 70's, but never longboarded, except the waterski hill stuff we did in the 70's. I just purchased that peggy oki barfoot complete (I love the shape length and rocker design design). I have since started looking into these torsion trucks and seeing that they turn terrifically sharp (I have not recieved the board yet). I am used to 10x30 pigs with gullwing pros (exclusively) on a 16-17" wheelbase, which make for a very lazy turning radius. it fits the way I skate in bowls and stuff and I have skated them since 78. My question is this, are these torsion trucks too much for the 'shorter' style longboard, or will they be right at home on mild hill bombing excursions (30 mph and less). redrilling for a conventional truck is a non issue, I have done that for years, but I just wanted some thoughts on if the torsion trucks are really too reactive for a such a short longboard (38")

Buddy

 
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sliding wheels
On 7/23/2004 hc wrote in from (69.104.nnn.nnn)

An often asked question.

There is no such thing as best..
It depends on preference of traction, slide distance, steepness of the hill, surface, ride quality, etc.

Hard wheels rides rough and slow, but slides far and lasts longer.

I got a list of wheels on my sliding page.

 
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Sliding wheels for longboard
On 7/23/2004 JP wrote in from (67.83.nnn.nnn)

I know this may not be the best forum for this question, but what the heck . . . what do you think are the best wheels duro and size for sliding on a longboard? 70 - 76mm with a duro of 85A - ??

 
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Bozi Deliveries
On 7/22/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

It took me a while to get mine. He apparently was/is very back-up. As I have said before it was worth the wait...but I know it sucks waiting.

Roll on Roll on!

 
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sliding
On 7/22/2004 henry wrote in from (172.181.nnn.nnn)

ss,

i learned to coleman slide on a short board. hc's site (http://www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/) is a good resource for sliding technique. I still find it hard to do slides on my longboard, i just don't reach speeds where i could throw them down easily. For speed control on the mostly mellow hills in my area i do standing slides. You'll find a detailed description of how to do them on SurfaceMotion.com. Hope that helps.

 
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not yet
On 7/22/2004 tom meakin wrote in from (81.76.nnn.nnn)

nope, my bozi order form the 2nd of June isnt here yet, i think he really must have got backlogged. If anyone from around my time of order has theirs yet, could they mail me? email addy given :) i sooo want to ride also.... my slalom board just wont go over 25 mph and i want to fly ....
tom meakin

 
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Bozi deliveries?
On 7/22/2004 spufman wrote in from (162.136.nnn.nnn)

Just wondering if people have started receiving their Bozi orders that were apparently a little back-logged. I'm coming up on six weeks for my MB2/Randal/Avila customized setup and while I can wait for what I know will be an incredible board, I'm aching to carve!

 
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Corey Rubin....
On 7/21/2004 ss wrote in from (24.62.nnn.nnn)

...which one did you get?

Can you tell us a little more about it?

 
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Thanks...
On 7/21/2004 ss wrote in from (24.62.nnn.nnn)

Thanks NCL great reviews...very helpful.

Any tips on learning to slide with slide gloves?

I think that I need harder wheels or I have to go a lot faster
because my wheels don't want to break traciton.

Even with my super turny original trucks.

 
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Longboard info
On 7/21/2004 Corey Rubin wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

I love my new longboard!

 
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Randalls and Seismic Comparison/Update On Bozi Set Up
On 7/21/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

SS: I have Randall R II's on a two of my boards other than the Bozi and I love them. They are great for carving and are good at higher speeds. The seimics took some getting use to because I had never ridden a setup where the front truck turned more than the rear (45 degree front and 30 degree rear). After riding the Bozi a while now I do like these trucks a great deal. It may be a mental thing but they seem a great deal more stable at higher speeds. They carve well too. I know there is alot of people who are either Randall fans or Seimic fans and totally hate the other choice but I like them both. For general carving and cruising I like the Randalls. For bombing sections with big fast turns I like the Seismics.

Roll on Roll on! Brothers and Sisters! Roll on on Randalls or Seimics or both!

 
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Bozi Slide Gloves
On 7/21/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

SS: The Bozi slide gloves took a little getting use to. I had made my own before buying these and the "palm puck" piece is a lot larger and thicker that what I had used. It makes board pick up a little hard at first but once I got use to it it was ok. From a sliding perspective they are awesome. The puck is a very hard durable piece that has not shed much from use. It does powder up a bit but that is no big deal. The material is fairly slick and at first on a backside slide I have had a couple of situations where I over extended and basically busted my ass because my hand slid out from under me. Dude, this was not a problem with the glove. This was totally operator error! The adhesive that holds the puck to the palm is some major stuff and there has been absolutely no seperation even when I have hung the bottom of the puck twice on a curb really hard. They are great for rubbing off speed in a hard high speed carve.

Roll on Brothers and Sisters! Roll on Roll on...Sliding and slipping.

 
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Night Riding Rules
On 7/21/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from (63.167.nnn.nnn)

GFlash: Thanks for the props dude! Yeah, I forgot the reflective clothing...and I do take my phone with me. One other thing that I do is I always wave at the police cars as they ride by...most of the ones in town know me now. I have heard that they all think I am crazy.


 
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