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TNR link
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On 11/28/2005
airin
wrote in from
Canada
(66.183.nnn.nnn)
Here's the link to the TNR foot block in case you're interested:
http://www.tnrdesigns.com/skateboards.htm
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foot block
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On 11/28/2005
airin
wrote in from
Canada
(66.183.nnn.nnn)
In slalom the foot block or toe stop is often used so that the skater doesn't slide too far up the nose while pumping through a tight course. I have a TNR foot block on one slalom board and more 'homemade' bushing toe stops on the others. I was wondering how one of these would be on a long distance deck. Has anyone experimented with footblocks for applications other than slalom?
I'm going to give the TNR a try on my up and coming LBL designated long distance pumping deck. Come to think of it, maybe I'll start experimenting with this right now on one of my cruiser boards.
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pump family
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On 11/28/2005
peters
wrote in from
United States
(24.18.nnn.nnn)
Airin, you're an amazingly generous host, and the buzz is still resonating from our great pump cruise around Stanley Park. Thank you! Meeting up was a huge highlight for us all. A slalom fest up there next year would be great.
By the way you and Eric are far too complimentary - I'm always jonesin' to get out and learn new things from each other on each ride, the discoveries are endless. And thanks for the comment on the quiver Eric, many experimental decks have come and gone, I'll try to add some of those in the near future.
Notice when Eric chanted 'pump master', Dan The Man appeared from the fog! Dan - I think all my links are updated now, please PDF me! My favorite quote: "...A note of caution - You may find that pumping becomes addictive. It is a truly magical feeling to propel yourself indefinitely, without ever touching the ground or lifting any of your wheels..." -Amen.
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Dan's pumping article....
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On 11/27/2005
silversurfer
wrote in from
United States
(71.192.nnn.nnn)
Dan I have posted a link to your old article on silverfish to help those
learning to pump. It's a great resource.
It would be great if you could e mail me the new article and info on
how to subscribe to the new magazine!
Thanks - Eric
ronin391@yahoo.com
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pumping board
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On 11/27/2005
airin
wrote in from
Canada
(66.183.nnn.nnn)
Ben, I'm not sure that there really is a definitive pumping board out there yet. The few serious long distance skaters that are out there are still experimenting quite a bit with set ups.
Not that I have loads of experience in this skate discipline myself but I can make a few suggestions. If you are thinking pumping short distances only, like 1/2 a kilometre stretchs for practice that will transfer to slalom, for example, then a slalom board will probably be appropriate. But if you are thinking of going longer distances like 5 - 10 km's at a go then it seems like a board with a wheelbase between 28 - 32 inches and trucks mounted about 4 - 5 inches from the nose on a deck with slight or no flex and very little concave and no wheel cut outs would be the board to look for. As for wheels and trucks...James Peters has some good suggestions in a recent post below.
hope that helps.
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On 11/27/2005
Ben
wrote in from
United States
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can anyone reccomend a complete beginner board for pumping, or better yet if someone has a used one they would like to sell
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Pumping; Updated
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On 11/27/2005
K-Rimes
wrote in from
Canada
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I'd love a PDF. My email is up there.
Thanks!
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Pumping How-To article
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On 11/27/2005
Dan Gesmer / Seismic
wrote in from
United States
(71.211.nnn.nnn)
I recently updated and re-edited my 1989 "how-to" on pumping. It's printed with photos and illustrations in issue #3 of Naphte, the new longboard magazine out of Montreal. (I'm serving as the magazine's Senior Editor, too.)
I can email a PDF version of the article to anyone who's interested. And anyone who has the old 1989 article posted on their websites, it would be cool if you'd update to the new version.
Peace,
Dan
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Jealous
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On 11/26/2005
silversurfer
wrote in from
United States
(71.192.nnn.nnn)
Airin I'm jealous that you got to skate with the pump master.
Did you try his set up?
Mr. Peters I saw your quiver on your site and it is VERY impressive.
And thanks for the advice and tips below. I will heed your advice
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Half Marathon
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On 11/26/2005
Pete
wrote in from
United States
(24.152.nnn.nnn)
Hey all-
Haven't checked the board in a while. I ride a 44" G&S Fiber Flex with stock 150 randalls. I take the risers off completely, after the 1/4" ones didn't work out. I can pump the full 2 3/4 miles from Crystal Pier to South Mission jetty, but usually use alternating kicks to keep up a high rate of speed. As far as I'm concerned, a longer board is the only way to go. The fiber flex is stable for skogging, but flexible enough to crank down on for pumping.
Anyone else get rid of risers altogether? Still reading the posts-
Pete
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skate family
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On 11/26/2005
airin
wrote in from
Canada
(66.183.nnn.nnn)
I just returned from a fantastic skate with James Peters! We scored a windy, sunny warm Fall day here in Vancouver and delighted in the smooth pavement of the seawall bike path around Stanley Park. Both skating custom LBL decks, we just had a blast pumping and carving the 10km 'paved wave'.
It was so great to get together with a long distance skate guru like James. For me, I learned more about long distance pumping in an hour with James than in 10 months on the net...lol.
As well it is so wonderful to spend time with other like minded skaters. We are a fantastic family and its great when we get to meet and enjoy one another's company. James thanks so much for your warmth and generosity. And to the rest of you, I can hardly wait until we meet and skate....my back yard or yours?
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skate
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On 11/25/2005
airin
wrote in from
Canada
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Hey James thanks for posting that link .. always good to see some interesting pumping locations. And yeah Munchh, probably it was way more useful to actually 'see' the pumping in action as opposed to just 'hearing' about it, eh? Good luck on your medical project btw ....speedy recovery to you.
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vanc seawall...
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On 11/25/2005 peters
wrote in from
Canada
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erin, thank you for the warm Vancouver welcome - there's more sushi here than there is coffee in seattle!! stanley park seawall trail (9k) looks sweet...just hope it dries up here!
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Peters
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On 11/25/2005
Munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(86.132.nnn.nnn)
Looks real fun and now i understand the front foot over the truck thing?
Nothing like working up a sweat in the cold!
Although i'm gonna give the velodrome a call and it is undercover, looks like i'm gonna be out of things for a couple of weeks, the hospital finally called with a date for the synus opp i've been waiting 9 months for, its the 29th, so its all happening!!
Its a new twist and cant wait to give it a go.
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vel vid
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On 11/24/2005 peters
wrote in from
Canada
(24.82.nnn.nnn)
hey munchh, here's a short vid from over a year ago when a buddy and I were testing out the local velodrome, before it was resurfaced. its pretty jerky skating as we (obviously) weren't going for style points, just trying to get and stay high up on the steeps... i think we'd do alot better now given our setups are better dialed. you asked about wheel duro and shape, this place is so smooth I'd probably use something like 81a--86a Avalons or Hot Spots on a 28" wheelbase deck.
http://home.comcast.net/~jampet99/images/circuitLongboarding.wmv
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Californa pumping
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On 11/24/2005
airin
wrote in from
Canada
(66.183.nnn.nnn)
Oh yeah, wouldn't take much to tempt us down to Californa for some friendly pumping competitions.
James, welcome to Vancouver...don't worry if it rains too much for skating we'll make it up to you in sushi!
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ovals and loops
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On 11/24/2005 peters
wrote in from
Canada
(24.82.nnn.nnn)
oop sorry chris, in a rush here on vacation and called ya 'cya' -- lol. To both you and Munchh...we've run the Vel both directions (toe, heel) and that seems like a good strategy, clock times both directions and average it out, kind of like how we run cyber slalom. That's cool you've got an "in" at the Velodrome down there already, please Chris -- make an event, give us an excuse to get down to Cali next year!
Now I'm off to Vanc B.C.'s finest - Sushi Thanksgiving dinner!!
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cheers
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On 11/24/2005
Munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(86.132.nnn.nnn)
Cheers SamG,
theres one in brighton, i'm only 20mins from there and we go there to carve one of the parks.
Have you had a go anywhere?
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Velodrome
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On 11/24/2005
Munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(86.132.nnn.nnn)
Hey Peters,
what a great idea, what shape and duro wheels do you have to use?
Dont know if there are any over here, but i gonna have to find out, dont spose you could use such a long deck?
As for racing, how about time trails and to sort out the whole stance thing, you have to ride both ways and average the two times?
Just a thought.
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Ovals & Eights
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On 11/24/2005
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
Funny, I had been thinking about Velodromes when I was posting earlier. Velodromes are cool. Steep too. I have a friend who runs the ones in Dominguez Hills and San Diego. I got to take my streetluge in there and get towed by a motorcycle around the track at 50mph. It's wierd when you start to slide out because you "slide up" which quickly slows you down to a speed that stops the slide.
What I didn't mention about the figure eight is that it provides as many toeside pumps as it does heelside pumps. In an oval, goofy footers would be doing all toeside turns and regular footers would be doing all heelsides (assuming CCW rotation). In either track, it would be nice to have banked walls to transition pump off of.
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lap pump velodrome
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On 11/24/2005 peters
wrote in from
Canada
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hi cya, it isn't exactly a figure-8, but this year i finally broke some ground on the Redmond Velodrome and King county contacts, just need to get the bicycle association's buy-in and we might have the Vel as a flat-pump venue for next year. and they just resurfaced it!! the apron at the bottom is flat as it gets, but once you pump up speed you can gradually climb as you're rounding each lap, then pick up speed again on the "downhill" slope. its a killer workout!
hey airin we made it to the great white north!! stanley park is lookin' smooooth...
jp
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figure eight
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On 11/24/2005
airin
wrote in from
Canada
(66.183.nnn.nnn)
I'M IN!!! :-)
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Fly on the wall
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On 11/24/2005
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
Hey Pumpmeisters, Lately I've been lurking the forum here and resisting the temptation to chime in, mostly because my back and other injuries have prevented me from going out and skating hard. It's as if I have nothing to add if I can't charge 100%. Part of my self-prescribed "therapy" will be to go out and skate as a form of excercise, and nothing gets the heart pumping quite like pumping a skateboard. I like the ideas about a long distance course, one where you might trying only pumping, pumping and/or pushing, and doing it either for speed or for distance. It seems to me that a nice big figure eight shaped course - one that you could do laps on, would work well on many levels. It would tend to be "level" in that there would be as much uphill as there would be downhill. The wind would be in your face as much as on your back. It would be easy to count/measure times and distances. Runs could be easily covered/documented with only a couple of cameras. Competition (which invariably occurs) could be very interesting, especially in the middle of the intersection.
I think that a good way to raise awareness about pumping skateboards would be to raise money for a charitable organization (like Boarding For Breast Cancer) by getting pledges from donors based on a "per lap" ride, with or without a total dollar cap.
Imagine how much fun and chaos would ensue if all of us were to run the course at one time. We could call the intersection the "Chris Cross" (after Yandall), and nickname the event "Skate the 8". Maybe we'd get more "support" if we called it the "Cross Your Heart Brah"?
I hereby commission all of you to go out and set up a big 8-shaped course that is the optimal size for such a venue, and report back your findings. After that, we'd be in a good place to start designing the right equipment for the perpetual pumping machine.
Who's in?
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more....
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On 11/24/2005
Munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(86.132.nnn.nnn)
....the point i meant to make was that the deck needed no cut out as the trucks are so wide and wedging the trucks makes them ride even lower, the width keeps the whole set up nice and stable and the 32" wheelbase helps it roll for ever.
I'm really impressed with the wheels, using abec7's, the roll and roll and stick.
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