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Record breaker.....not!
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On 4/19/2006
Munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(86.132.nnn.nnn)
Derek,
I know where your coming from, I just got hooked on slalom and want to get better so badly, but i'm a natural sprinter and i'm finding the LDP stamina thing a bit of a problem, so i dont think i'll be breaking ang of JP's records, but hey i love to pump along, i'm still getting the hang of this carver cx, but it all makes me better.
Erin, you looking good girl, i thought you looked a bit stiff like me at 1st, but you have a bit of a bounce goin on and riding on '3' wheels seems to be the norm i see, but i spose we probly all look different doin it, are you still running the cx wedged?
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cyber mile
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On 4/19/2006
derek
wrote in from
United States
(24.16.nnn.nnn)
right on munchh- thanks :)
yeah- the differences in pavement and trails would definitely be a factor, but that's exactly what would be helpful. when we get feedback about which setups work best, and the ideal trail, and all that stuff, that can come in pretty handy for finding some very efficient grooves.
and i like a good groove just as much as anyone, but there is definitely a side of me that likes to push it, and to see how fast i can go. I converted to this sport from distance running, and i guess i still have that mentaility with pace and time... nonetheless, it's great to have milestones to judge our growth and improvement, whatever the activity.
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a beginner skumper
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On 4/19/2006
Erin
wrote in from
Canada
(66.183.nnn.nnn)
http://media.putfile.com/pumping-the-LBL-Sandpiper
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stats!!!
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On 4/19/2006
Munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(193.113.nnn.nnn)
Peters, Peters, Peters,
he's singing your song man, Peters is the guy to do this (if he wants to??) he has far more stats than enyone i should imagine,
although its gonna be hard to standardize like 'cyber' or 'trap' how many tails are gonna be the same, one side of a road is very diffrent to the other, so i think there would have to be a fare bit of maths!!!!
Your right though, this skumping thing is getting more popular every day, so some ideas of target times for distance might be fun, but i dont know about you lot, but i dont do it to be the fastest, i'm just groovin' dood.
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cyber mile
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On 4/19/2006
derek
wrote in from
United States
(24.16.nnn.nnn)
with all the activity here focused on long-distance pumping, it would be cool to have some kind of measuring stick for what is going on out there. Silversurfer wrote over a year ago that it would be interesting to have some distance records up here, including 1/4 mile, 1 mile, and 3 mile...
the cyber slalom challenge would be a great template to start with for something like that. i thought of a few possible standards:
1. rolling start (at a speed not exceeding your average pace)
2. some kind of standard for elevation gain/loss, with no hills on the course (uphill or downhill) exceeding a certain slope.
3. the entire length of the course must be pumped
as for the first two up there, gps watches are incredibly helpful for statistics like that. And while the measurements may not be absolutely perfect, these gps thingies do provide relatively accurate distances.
anyone have any ideas on this? it would be great to get some input here...
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Skumping Mis-Understanding
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On 4/19/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
Dude for some reason I thought skumping was a blend of skogging and pumping. Therefore, I am not skumping! So scratch what I said, in your def: touching the ground is verbotten and therefore, I am no long skumping but skogging and pumping!..
do you skumpers ever sit down? do you just jump up and all of a sudden you are airborne til you get to your boards and never touch the ground?
i can imagine pumping hard on one side and then totally switching to keep the motion going. i'm still learning!
:D
cYa
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the skumping routine
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On 4/18/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
(24.18.nnn.nnn)
Wow even you've stopped touching the ground - you're skumping now cYa!? ;-)
If you do want to see us rip then come on up June 18th!
skumping defined
Ben - don't have used stuff myself at the moment, but read through the past pages of this forum for what people are riding. Roe's, LBL's, Comets, etc. all in the 36-43" range.
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Setups
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On 4/18/2006
Ben
wrote in from
United States
(24.130.nnn.nnn)
can anyone reccomend a good pumping setup. i have been working on pumping on a powell pool board with soft no skool wheels and i can pump a few miles but a more specialized setup would greatly improve my distance. if anyone has some used stuff they are looking to get rid of please e mail me
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Well, You Can't Ignore the Enthusiasm
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On 4/18/2006 Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
24x7x365 pumpers. you go bro!
skumping owns. my favorite exercise.
senior citizen surfing!
2 hour sprints are enough for me. it's like a 1-a-day tablet.
you guys rule.. ok?
i like to pump but only in a skumping routine. for me... it works!
cant wait to see all you pro's rip. :D
cYa
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way cool pumpers
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On 4/18/2006
derek munson
wrote in from
United States
(24.16.nnn.nnn)
i think it's totally cool if somebody can pump from sunup to sundown without putting their foot down. and i don't see how that could get boring any more than any other endeavor. I've been doing this long distance pumping thing for about 5 years. rather than getting bored with it, i learn something new every time i go out for a ride.
keep that stoke goin' james!
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action!
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On 4/18/2006
Erin
wrote in from
Canada
(66.183.nnn.nnn)
I bought my first camcorder last week and have been filming and editing ever since. I did a short video of some pumping action a few days ago. I'm not sure if its good enough 'go public' with but if you'd like to sneak a peek shoot me an email and I'll send you the link.
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what I'd really like to do...
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On 4/18/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
Al - the cool thing is that rides fit into my weekly routine partly by LUCK (home to work == one long commuting trail) and the fact that this replaces gym time and is far more productive. My only other wish would be to have months free for distance rides like the Jack Smith SAA crew, the Adam Colton gang, or Cornwaithe shooting across Australia. But THAT one's a hard sell to the wife, and my boss...
Erin, that rocks to see the growing community up north with Jeff and now newbie pumpers, if you get any events going be sure to let us know, and stick it up on the RoeRacing calendar! http://www.localendar.com/public/roeslalom
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variety indeed
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On 4/18/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
Chris, the last time I gave a rip about what other people thought of me or anything I do was probably 20+ years ago, the jitters of becoming a high school freshman.
Don't let what the skater kids say bug ya. I pass them on the trail and hear the sound of jaws dropping more than the crap you seem to hear on the boardwalk. For every one skeptic, I hear about ten people AMPED to know more about, or even get into pumping distances. 'boring and repetitious' aren't even in my skate vernacular. Switch pump stance is how you balance out the muscles, when you feel the need.
I used to play jazz, salsa, and classical trumpet, with 1 to 2 hour-long sets. I've found long distance pumping to be a pure extension of that. I never get "bored" trying new pump styles, switching pump stance, alternating rhythms, picking a never ending and always-changing horizontal fall line down the path ahead-- its mesmerizing and addictive.
With the advances in longboard decks, trucks, and wheels, skateboarding can go way beyond sprint muscle athleticism. Long distance pumping bumps up the game to a sustained cardio. 4-5 times a week makes any mellow, cruising weekend or evening ride with my bros feel like an easy walk through the park.
This all reminds me of one pavedwave article quote ... "When I hang out with inspired people, a conversation feels like jumping on a trampoline. When I hang out with uninspired people, it feels like being 100 pounds overweight, and jumping on the sidewalk."
Get out and skate! (Now just have to choose between my park board, carveboard, DH, slalom...)
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a new pumper is born!!!
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On 4/17/2006 Erin
wrote in from
Canada
(66.183.nnn.nnn)
I am so stoked! This morning my skatepal calls me up and says, "Would you teach me to pump?" How cool is that?! I dropped what I was doing and leap up shouting into the phone, "Yes, FOR SURE!"
She brought over her Insect Big Bug and we wedged and jacked up the R2's on the front. New gumballs were fairly gleaning, we were set to go.
She caught on really quickly and the huge perma-smile on her face told me she was having fun, fun, fun.
I don't think it will be long before we're out there together making short work of my 12km loop. I can't believe my good fortune, someone else right here at home to pump with!!!!! How lucky is that?!
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Pumpin' Mumblin's
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On 4/17/2006 Al Williams
wrote in from
Dominican Republic
(66.98.nnn.nnn)
Keep goin James!..Your a great guinea pig for all those of us who want to pump such distances but really can't because of exterior circumstances such as wives and work situations. Some of us are very interested in the limits possible for pumping, but know we will probably never be able to test them. Thus, our interest in your details, such as times..and even number of pumps! I like these scrupulous statistical updates. Anyway, many of us, I think, appreciate those, like you, who want to break barriars, blaze new trails and record statistics that will pave the way for the progress of this new sport.
Oh, and thanks Munchh for calling me a Guiness! ..but really I prefer Hieneken!
Hairy feet Rule!!
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why pump when you can push? :D
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On 4/17/2006
Chris Yandall - Pumper from the Mid-70's
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
variety is a the spice bro! and that's why there's a different msg thread covering alternate leg pushing. the young skaters kids today look at pumpers as a freak show. they are saying, why pump when you can ollie your way down the sidewalks. i get it all the time skumping down the boasrdwalks. but damn! pumpin owns!
Anyways, alternating your legs might help you move over to the other exercise gym set of muscle development. Pumping long distances is a great endeavor but like anything else repititious, get's boring and will give you way uneven body fatigue in my opinion. I dont have anything against pumping other than people who put on the blinders and think they are way cool cuz they dont put any feet on the ground from sun up to sun down. wow! you go dude! enjoy. hope your feet never touch the ground ever!!!!
:P
PUMP IT BABY!
Cheers
Chris Yandall
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why push when you can FLY!!??
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On 4/17/2006 Erin
wrote in from
Canada
(66.183.nnn.nnn)
Whoah, and double whoah! Those are some fast times and some amazing weekly mileages James! You be 'flyin' boy!
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why push when you can...
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On 4/16/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
(24.18.nnn.nnn)
We've had dry weather over the past weeks, meaning ALL PUMP commute days. Some really cool discoveries on fatigue after a solid 4-5 days, feeling it in the ABS and the BACK which must be a very good thing!! 260 miles, 22 starting pushes, 165,600 pumps... But who's counting ;-)
When it rains I bus it, or one-foot-push the rollsrolls, just going easy. Haven't learned alternate push thing 'cuz my goal's always been to keep the feet off the ground!
Munchh, will definately check into the rubber mat guy. And you should all know that wearing shoes for too long is actually THE #1 culprit for foot stank. Take 'em off and ride!! (but keep that stinky helmet on...)
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Dawg's
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On 4/15/2006
Munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(86.132.nnn.nnn)
HOOLEY MOLEY YOUNG HOBIT!!
just a quick hello to ya'll,
as usual the day we come home the waves are sweet, but got some time on those DP's on some lovley hills, Al your a genius!
Woolacombe is really to up and down for skumping, but i bumped into a guy who saw the 'Wasteland' sticker on my slalom deck who just happened to be in the same little village and 300 miles from home like i was and is going to the next one.
So 3 weeks to get the new deck built.
Peters, i'm stoked your on the Flatwave at last, have you thought of the old 'rubber' grip they used on GS decks for barefoot? Theres a guy on ebay that sometimes has some i'll check it out for you, he's your side of the water aswell?
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LOL.....
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On 4/13/2006 Erin
wrote in from
Canada
(66.183.nnn.nnn)
fo shore' Al, fo shore'
what he said, da trooff, fo shore!
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dem dawgs!..as Erin points out!!! Stanky!
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On 4/13/2006 Al Willums
wrote in from
Dominican Republic
(66.98.nnn.nnn)
James! Da problem is..you ain't o shouldn't be pumpin'a barefoot up there in Sattle in a wintatime! Isa a pretty normal conclusion that after 2-300 miles of rain o ice pumpin' you gonna get some pritty hairy dawgs!( as Erin calls 'em correcly). I sugest a good pair of woolen socks cuz those a sum stanky pair a dawgs ya got....doooood!!!
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holy hairy dawgs!
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On 4/12/2006 Erin
wrote in from
Canada
(142.22.nnn.nnn)
Those are one hairy pair of dawgs you got there James! That can't be very aerodynamic...pretty give those puppies a trim....LOL!
OldStoke hope you survived your three wheeled episode .... Like James I often find myself cranking on three wheels, well actually less so since I started skating the Sandpiper but earlier on my other LBL decks and on the Rayne Vice that I set up as a pumper for while I definitely often skated three. Never had any spills but probably I was farther back on the deck than you plus the boards didn't have a swept up nose.
It is interesting now that I think about it that the Sandpiper doesn't seem to have this three wheeled tendency. Now why would that be James? Different flex, different shape....?
What I have run into with the 'piper is a slightly pulled groin muscle on my leading leg. I just can't seem to restrain my enthusiasm when pumping and I think I just cranked it too hard for too long and kind of fatigued that muscle to the point of it becoming a bit sore. Anyone else running in to muscle pulls from pumping?
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hey they're toughin' up already!
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On 4/12/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
 Oldstoke, that barefooters.org is a very cool, informative site! I'll be spending a lot more of this summer nekkid from the ankle down.
Sounds like you rode that 'sketchy zone' out on the nose of the deck, hope you're okay? I've also heard comments from passing bikers when tripod-ing, just one rear wheel down while flying along at a fast clip. Even though it feels a little 'on edge' I still sometimes switch between that, and planting the rear foot for acceleration again. Although riding on WET trails will train you to keep the rear foot planted all the time!
Munchh, hope to get ride pics soon, after I shave my feet...
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I've gone global.....
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On 4/12/2006 Munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(86.54.nnn.nnn)
Hey Peters,
just thought i'd have a quick look, as i found a internet cafe, nice work man, just getting ready to get in the water, bit cold, but my new hood is sweet.
Just want some pics of you on it now,
Check you all when i get back.
Munchh.
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Barefoot Skump'n
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On 4/11/2006 OldStoke
wrote in from
United States
(12.75.nnn.nnn)
You guys got the wrong idea. Don't baby your feet, let them toughen up naturally. I'm leaving tomorrow for FL, and even though I live in MI my feet are ready! I have alot to learn about pumping still, but I've got the barefoot part down. I read "Skumping", Ya'all got to check out www.barefooters.org
Hey Erin, while showing my sons how great I was pumping the old Gravity yesterday, I couldn't hear what my 15 year old was trying to tell me: "Your rear wheels are going up". A few seconds later I hit the nose to the ground, and a split second later I hit the ground as well. I'll remember not to try Skumping a board with a kick nose from now on, no matter how good it feels. The old Classic Concave has a nose almost exactly like it's kick tail.
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How to Pump