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On 5/3/2004
Ryan
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Chris, just curious on what helmet you're using there? I've recently bought a full face, for when I head to the mountains on Wensday, but it seems a little too bulky. Oh, check out our slides man...let me know what you think. http://www.freewebs.com/vbds/ (they're under the gallery section). By the way, I like your downhill ski, but i think i got you beat brotha...now if i could just walk to bastard like you do.
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Sliding in the rain
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On 5/2/2004
Chris Chaput
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Flattery will get you everywhere but as a vendor, I can't post here in this forum about our latest products and developments. However, I will post some things in the Vendor's Corner as soon as I can. There are some truly exciting things coming up soon (and you've guessed mostly right above).
Let's talk about sliding!
Would you do it in the rain? Do you think we have no brains?
I had to throw down some loooong pendulum slides in Germany to make the hard left-hander ahead. At speed, the road looked like a long, skinny bowling lane and my first two throws were gutterballs. The third time was a charm.
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The Legend
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On 5/1/2004
silversurfer
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Chris,
I agree with chewy!
You grace us with your presence here. Please school us some more. More pics, more stories. I can't get enough.
I like chewy, want to hear about the new Flywheels.
(I heard that Abec 11 is the official wheel sponsor of bearing wars 2, cool)
I would like to hear about those Liquid Trucks, too.
(are they going to sponsor bearing wars 2, also?)
And are you working on a ceramic Builtin Bearing?
(possibly for bearing wars 2?)
any info is greatly appreciated...
Oh, and I want to hear more about sliding also.
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oh the legend
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On 5/1/2004
chewy
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Mr Chaput please tease us with your great pics and stories some more...
new flywheels...
liquid...
and any great plans for the future...
id like a 70mm 84a no skools...or maybe thats the new flywheel???
just an idea...
laterz
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Here's one way to stop
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On 4/29/2004
Chris Chaput
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I know how you feel Joseph!
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mongo braking
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On 4/29/2004
joseph
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hey chris you look like me when footbraking at higher speeds exept i'm usually more horizontal and no where near my board.
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Progress on sliding to brake.
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On 4/28/2004
Airin
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My goal has been to learn to slide so that I can use this method as a reliable method of braking and stopping when necessary. I started practicing toward this end a few weeks ago and all in all just the practice sessions themselves have proven to be great fun.
I'm at the point now that with my Landy Drop Carve board and 78a Flashback wheels I'm doing some nice heelside and toeside slides while grabbing a rail. I have temporarly left behind my Coleman slide aspirations as I find holding a rail gives me more stability in those nerve racking, I-better-slide-to-stop-or-else scenarios.
I've also had some good success sliding the same duro Flashies on my Landy Mummy GS board. Sweet, as it is good to know that my day to day boards with their normal setups will slide for me.
So far, the board is swinging around to about 180 degrees while sliding into a stop. Sometimes with enough speed the board is sliding across the hill on all four wheels especially when I'm doing a heelside slide/stop. I am able to do this type of slide to a stop within about the width of one lane of a typical road.
My next aim is to start increasing my speed so that I can start to hone this skill for street application. Up to now I've mostly be practicing in empty parking lots so my other goal is to start working my slides on the actual road routes that I skate.
Any feedback, comments or tips?
thanks
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Where there's a will, there's a way
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On 4/27/2004
Chris Chaput
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If I had to do it all over gain, I would probably have forced myself to footbrake by taking off my back foot and using my front front to stand/steer. As a kid, I never thought that one day I'd be racing downhill and would need that skill. As it turns out, footbraking is an invaluable asset in anyone's bag of tricks. If you footbrake "mongo" as I do, it's important to make sure that your remaining foot is in the center of the board BEFORE you take off the drag foot. Otherwise, the board will veer off to the side of the road while you faceplant. I know this from experience. Lightly/slowly lift up your braking foot and see how the board feels before commiting. That way you have an opportunity to adjust for foot position before stomping on the ground.
Once you get good at it, you can throw down a quick brake at will, and in a very short distance. As a regular-foot/mongo-braker, you can see how challenging it is for me to come hot into a right-handed hairpin where you need to brake and steer at the same time. The picture is of me at Hot Heels (Austrian World Cup) on a turn called the carousel. It's the last really technical turn and once you've made it, there is a huge sigh of relief followed by the longest fastest chicanes and runout on the course. At the end, if you can't slide or foot-brake to a stop, they won't let you on the course.
That's incentive!
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Cameras and Slide
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On 4/27/2004
Chris Chaput
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Brent took those pictures of me sliding with with my camera. It's a Nikon digital SLR called the D1H. It will take 5 frames per second for up to 40 frames (8 seconds) at a time. Nikon already has a D2H out now and it's even faster. I'm a total hack when it comes to photography. I'd have to read the manuals (argh) and spend a lot of time to get better at it. I'm totally open for anyone who wants to meet up and spend time behind and in front of the camera for a shoot. My back is getting better and I should be ready to go in the middle of May.
I like a lot of different longboard and speedboard setups for sliding. 57" is a bit excessive but it's a lot of fun when you pull it off. Because I like doing slides at high speed with a loose setup, I use a Randal-like truck and wheels any where from 65mm to 92mm and from 75a to 92a in durometer. Centersets work nicely but the Flashbacks also work out well.
You need a lot of speed and a steep hill to slide a really soft wheel. Once you get the courage to throw down a slide at 35-40mph as a braking technique, you'll gain the confidence to throw down slides in just about any conditions.
In between shots on the set of the "Lords of Dogtown" movie I must have looked a little out of character. I was playing the part of Russ Howell. I made a Ty Page replica deck and special cut Abec 11 wheels in an amber color that looked like the old Cadillac wheels. I put a slide glove on one hand and was doing these layback-Coleman style heelside slide across the ramplike end of the freestyle platform. The young actors playing the Jay, Tony and Stacy roles did a lot of their own skating. They'd be out there "practicing their berts" and this "old guy" would come screaming by and startle them while the real-life Tony and Stacy were chuckling in the background. It was surreal. As Cliff would tell you, you're never too old to slide baby...
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HC
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On 4/27/2004
Scott S.
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HC
Your in luck
I am getting a digital camera for my birthday whish is soon. Ill video lots of stuff and send it out to you. I think youll be quit suprised with what we can do in Nova Scotia. DOnt under estimate us, trust me.
But I do think I can get a sequence shots of a pendulum
Any type of one of the many grab pendulums you would like?
Or just a straight up Coleman
Ill try and remeber how i got my camera to do it before. Once i remeber ill send you a few of all the different slides.
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sliding pics
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On 4/27/2004 hc
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for a while now, I been trying to get 'sequence pics' for a pendulum slide. But I never see anyone post one.
I am not sure how chaput did his, whether they are stills from a video clip or using a camera that can do the sequence thingy.
Anyways if anyone out there can do one, I would like to use it for my sliding page.
hc
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose
btw, scott, if you want to post pics, check the posting guidelines.
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1440
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On 4/27/2004 hc
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scott, in his post he said Supaflex style.
I haven't tried it that way yet, but it looks very cool.
It looks different than the 'traditional' way which you for every 180 you are alternating between toe and heel. But the supaflex style, you are on one edge the entire time.
not sure if the supaflex videos are available online anymore..
btw, I would like to see your 1440.
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1440 Slides
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On 4/27/2004
Scott S.
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How does he do his 1440 (4 spins) slides?
Everyone has different style.
example: Sergio Yuppie starts with no hands and tehn moves to using his hands
I start with my hands
explain how he does his spins
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1440 Slides
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On 4/27/2004 Scott S.
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I can
And so can Sergio Yuppie
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1440 Slides
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On 4/27/2004
Shredder
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My team- mate Cengiz pulls frontside 1440° Slides- Supaflex style. And he is hungry for more! Video on our homepage will follow soon. Anybody out there who can beat that? Just curious....
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Beginer Slider
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On 4/26/2004 silversurfer
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SKFasJ - what specific complete set up would you recommend?
Chris Chaput, anyone else?
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Stand up slides
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On 4/26/2004 SFKasJ
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Short boards are much easier to learn stand up slides on. When I learned them back in the 80s I was riding a Schmitt Stix Lucero board with Indy 169s and 97a wheels(cant remember if they were Santa Cruz or Powell). After I learned on the 97a I moved to 92a street wheels and had no problems at all. Just wear wrist guards and be prepared to fall on you butt a few times. Once you get the first one to break free in a controled manner you will be doing them left and right. Don't forget that you need to get some speed up in order to slide any distance even with harder wheels .
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Wheels?
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On 4/26/2004
silversurfer
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Great slides, Chris! Which Abec 11 wheels do you use for sliding? What about the rest of your set up? That looks like a real longboard. Would a shorter one be better for learning, or not?
Very cool, pictures!
Eric
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standing slides
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On 4/25/2004 hc
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yeah, Chaput makes them look so easy.
I am still working on mine, but I hate landing on my ass (I should make a butt pad).
For those that haven't seen the La Costa slopestyle 2001. Check it out, Brad, Chris, Hackett, etc. pulling some beautiful runs pulling all sorts of downhill moves. They should do another one this year.
Airin, keep working on your slides, get low on those drop stance and you won't have to grab that rail.
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Pictures on Posts
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On 4/25/2004
Scott S.
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How do you put pictures with your post on the forum
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Ultimate Slider
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On 4/25/2004
Scott S.
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Like David said, everyone has there own taste but this is what im riding and i love it for sliding in the CITY.
-Deck: 40inch Brad Edwards Pro Model
-Trucks: TIGHT Indy trucks (my personal choice, I love them)
-Wheels: Sergio Sliders
Then I have my BIG downhill board
-Deck: Gravitys 46inch Carve 46-1
-Trucks: Randals Speed Downhill
-Wheels: Cliff Sliders
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Sliding to stop.
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On 4/24/2004
Airin
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My goal in learning to slide is to be able to use this technique as a method of stopping when I'm going pretty fast - well fast for me, which won't necessarily be fast for lots of experienced longboarders. I am getting the hang of sliding to a stop while grabbing the rail with one hand and sliding on my glove with the other hand. Now I wonder if it would be worth it to take this skill further and perfect slides that have my non-sliding hand up in the air.... Coleman style.
I know Cliff's style of sliding looks pretty awesome but is it necessary if I just want to use the slide as a reliable method of stopping when I'm going too fast to footbreak?
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ultimate slider
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On 4/24/2004
joseph
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riding it now.
libtech 44 inch board (too big for some people but i'm 6 foot three and still growing)
tracker darts loose!
68mm 85a bones bombers
bones reds bearings
indy orange bushings.
the board is indestructable! pitty about the crap underdecks...
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slippen'
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On 4/24/2004
sully
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meny tubs of crisco, astro-glide, KY, ect. on a good hill works pretty well I hear. Cool page Adam.
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