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Sliding Comp
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On 5/23/2004
Pete c.
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There was a spontaneous slide comp at the Lush weekend, held on a hair pin. The fall crew from Falmouth were set the pace and putting on a hell of a show! There should be some pic's up on the lush site. (Chris ive sent the Pics and film clips off to you now you should get them in a day, sorry for being slow!) Essence is trying to organize a slide comp now for June/July, watch this space.....(Dom& Crew wel be in touch.)
You could try going to Gurston, after the racing its a set of bends for sliding too, and the whole day is crazy fun that makes you grin!
If you like sliding try get some black 3DM. An unlikely one but man do the slideee e.
Have fun
Pete@ Essence
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Sliding Contests
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On 5/23/2004
Scott S.
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Is there such thing as sliding contests?
I am thinking of setting one up on the east coast.
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A question and a hint
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On 5/22/2004 anders
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Just a quick question regarding breaking rubber. I've got a pair of breakingshoes i used to use for buttboarding, but since i've got more and more into stand-up they spend most of their time next to the 'dust-rats' under my bed. Anyway, i've tried to use these for standup breaking, but I don't find that they work to well. Firstly, they're way too heavy. It's a crazy truck-tire-rubber on them that's almost an inch thick. it will last forever but I can only use them when I go properly downhill skating, and not when just cruising around town and stuff. Do you guys have any clue about a good quality rubber I can get hold of for just riding in town, something that's about 5mm thick or something so it's alright to walk around in aswell? Would be cool.
Also, I find the truckrubber way to hard to grip my griptape on the board when gaining speed, so i end-up almost floating around on the board, which is very, very scary. Any clues about this? Could it be that my board is too stiff? When using normal skateshoes i do get the same tendency, but not nearly as strong, so i assume it's got to do with the durometer of the rubber.
Yesterday i handed in my final year project to the marker, with the title "On the skateboard, kinematics and dynamics". One of the things I realised was (which most people already know) that the skateboard get's unstable if you stand behind the middle-point of it. Thus, when footbreaking it would make more sense to leave your front foot on the board, and break with the back foot, and hence leaving your centre of gravity of the board as far forward as possible. Obviously, many people do it the other way and do not have any problems with it, but the maths tell me that this ought to be less stable. (I will publish the report on the internet in a couple of weeks when exams and stuff have settled down a bit).
Cheers guys!
/anders
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heat
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On 5/22/2004
chris
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yeah man..temperature does it.
this is not a joke..but if you have a 88a wheel..and wanna make it a 78a
boil it!
or microwave it..but boiling is more secure.
be sure to put a "thingy" in the core..so that you can pull the wheel up..and flush it with cold water..to check if the boiled duro is anything you like..or if you want it harder cooked! ;)
really works great for bushings too..
first time I heard of "cocking wheels" was from the Supaflex guys...thought it was a joke then..but it really works!
www.supaflexbyug.com
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freeboard
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On 5/22/2004
chris
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shutup and skate jerk.
let the sorry ass ride a freeboard if he wanna..
okey?
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Skateboard Sliding
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On 5/21/2004 Ethan
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Yeah well whatever. It IS a skateboarding forum, and in a way he is kinda right... its more rewarding learning to slide a skatebaord cause its more challenging than the freebord. And you can use it as transportation. Skateboards are more versitile for sure.
but riding a board with wheels down a hill is fun no matter where the wheels attach to the board, I think mebbe
But back to sliding... i just bought some of dem timehsip racing gloves and they are sweet. good plastic, nice design. little too hot tho.
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Hate
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On 5/20/2004 isabelle
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Skate & relate, NO HATE as Proehljm put it...
It's about fun, not conformity to YOUR ideas of fun...
as long as you're not hurting anyone......don't HATE, don't be a hater!
I think rollerblading is whack, but I wouldn't put them down...that makes ME a fool,. not them!
food 4 thought
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Downhill Slides from Brazil..................
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On 5/20/2004
Bob Sponja
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Espero poder ir para San Diego CA. Em setembro e vamos descer muitas ladeiras por aí........
Acessem o site www.40polegadas.com.br
Até breve
Bob Sponja
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ain't skating slide....
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On 5/20/2004 Proehljm
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NEWS FLASH - when the guy posted about the freebord he wasn't looking to do a skate slide but a standing slide like on a SNOWBOARD. very different. so if he wants to pratice SNOWBOARD slides he should maybe try a freebord.... thats all he was asking.... further not everyone is insecure to the point that they need to carry around a skateboard to feel cool. if people want to ride freebords who cares who else is riding them, like longboards most my friends are riding short ones but I am not giving in just to look cool.
anyhow i hear freebords are good for 360 free twists and standing slides, no its not the same as a skate slide but no one was suggesting it was....
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aint sliding
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On 5/20/2004 sully
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NEWS FLASH: the freeboard is not a skateboard its a gimmick, its fringe at best. Learn to slide on a skateboard it will do tons more for your ego and it looks a heck of a lot cooler. Lets see if we still see your freebird in action in 10 or 20 years.
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Freebord Sliding
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On 5/19/2004 ethan
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Yeah I have a freebord... they are a lot of fun. Very different from longboarding tho. It really is a very good snowboard simulator. A lot of other boards claim to be like snowboarding (carveboard, tierney, flolab)... but freebord comes the closest.
That said the same problems exist witha freebord as with a snowboard. They suck on the flats. You can catch an edge, jsut like on a snowboard (that's what makes them good snowboard practice). You can do effortless spins and slides. because of the skyhooks, you can also do jumps pretty easily. Basically downhill freestyle is a blast on those boards.
Big problem with Freebording is that you need really steep hills once you get good. There are quite a few hill in the bay Area that I can do on a freebord but dont have the skills (yet) to do on a longboard. Much more limited terrain available to you compared with a longboard.
anyway...dont expect freebord to replace your longboard...but they really are good for snowboard practice.
the guys who ride for team freebord ride a lot in the bay area and know some good hills. they go really really f**king fast on those things, too. Went up to Mt Tam with them one time... they'll bomb anything...I dont have the skills to keep up with them, usually
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Freebord
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On 5/19/2004 Mike manning
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anyone ever tried that freebord thing? where you can do standing slides as if you were on a snowboard? it looks pretty frigging cool
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re: slide clinics
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On 5/19/2004
Justin in NC
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Vaitus, i'd have to agree with you... when are we gonna get some slide clinics in raleigh/durham??
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bay area sliding
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On 5/18/2004
Myrran
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Anybody in the Bay area interested in sliding contact me and the boyz at SFLONGBOARD.CONFORUMS.COM and come out with us on the weekend or week night. We got some extra gloves and will give the low down on sliding tech. Always a good time! You mighe even find out obout great hillz.
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Sliding & Trucks
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On 5/18/2004 vaitus
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ethan, I feel just as you about randal & seismics, but I have to say those UP trucks slide like seismics on sterodis...hehe
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bay area sliding
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On 5/17/2004
hc
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sfPaul, I will send you an email.
I do keep a contact list of many downhill riders in the sf bay area, you can try hooking up with riders in your own area.
any bay area riders that is interested in learning sliding or other form of downhilling, feel free to send me an email.
btw, I was talking to Jonathan from Comet, he was talking about doing a slide clinic in Palo Alto. I will keep you guys updated.
hc
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose
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Sliding & Trucks
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On 5/17/2004
ethan
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OK, we know how much wheels, speed and surface conditions affect sliding...but what about trucks? It seems like I can initiate and control my slides better on Seismics than Randals (both 180mm).
Does anyone else feel that Seismics are easier to slide than Randalls? Its all so subjective...but I'd be curious to hear others opinions.
I'm a little sore at Randall for their crappy kingpins and bushings, too. They are great trucks once properly modified, tho... no denying that.
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cliffsclinics
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On 5/17/2004 Ian
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Michael I agree with your comments.Thanks for organising this event.
COMET have stopped producing theis Proflex range, so if anyone is after on u better hurry.
I have Comet Proflex park 36, it's a beauty.
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slide board(s)
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On 5/17/2004 squad guy
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Hey, this is the deal. A pro like cliff could slide a 2*4 with wheels and make it look like art it isn't about the board. Get/make the best gloves you can and pratice with a lid. Get a slide going were you can't get hit then work on control. Chalked lanes work well then pretend there are 18wheelers & Big SUV's outside of your marks that WILL hit you. Cliff or my crew will not ride the open road with someone who can't stay in there own lane under ANY rideing situation. Slideing is fun and very rewarding and it saves lives.
P.S. only an opinion but Comets offer lots of bang for your buck and some of the best skaters/sliders in the world ride them.
just slide any way you can the rest will fall into place if you are committed.
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Board not bored
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On 5/17/2004 isabelle
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To keep from being bored, try the 36" GravityBOARD for a first slider. You can hit pools, parks, ditches, ramps AND slide the crap out of this deck. I also recommend Randal 150's...they will let you get about 30mph w/o wobbling, so they're a great starter truck, big but not too, small but not too.
Good luck sliding.......addications can be GREAT for you...just pick them healthfully!!
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slide clinics
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On 5/17/2004 vaitus
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aaargh...these posts about slide clinics are killing me....how about a clinic in the Raleigh Durham area?
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CliffsClinics
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On 5/17/2004 Michael
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Last weekend Cliff held a clinic as part of Lush Longboards event in the Derbyshire dales, England. The actual clinic was held on the Monday, after an intense weekend of sliding, racing and general mayhem.
On Monday we entered the bunkhouses meeting room and were handed a pamphlet on how to slide, and were shown the techniques on the carpet, before we ventured onto a small slope. Cliffs encouragement and technical pointers meant that we all improved, and in most cases it was our first day of learning the techniques. Throughout the day we went on steeper hills, culminating in a great left handed swithcback....where we all sat on the apex and watched each other zoom round sideways....the smiles were amazing, we all felt super confident that now we could go fast and drop a slide at any time, making skating safer. Everyone i've spoken to after has been thrilled at their progress, and I'd reccomend a Coleman Clinic to anyone, whatever their standard. The oppurtunity to focus on one element of riding for a whole day is rare, and we all came away thinking we'd learnt a new sport!
Well done Cliff.
(as one of the guys who made his trip possible, and a seller of wheels, of course I'm totally biased.....but hey, i dont think anyone who went will disagree!)
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Heat + Speed
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On 5/15/2004 PSR
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Tom,tempature does reflect on the speeds you can hit.When I lived in Phoenix,AZ,I found that many of my "fast" wheels were totally GOO in the 100*F+ heat.More than that,I found that shoe hardness(something you need to consider if Footbraking a lot)was way whack,and that I needed to use harder,urethane soled shoes just to keep from burning my feet.What occurs is that the whole durometer scale gets bumped a few points softer as the heat increases.Wheels that register at 88A duro suddenly feel like like 80A in the 'Zona heat.I ended up running a full 8-12 durometer points higher on my boards in most areas.In the Northast(my Home before my adventures South,and Home yet again),I tend to run softer compounds because it's likely to be colder.This goes right out the window from mid-May until late August,as the weather will fluctuate 30*+ in a given week,so a 'quiver' of wheels is a needful item.In the Autumn months,we get even crazier fluctuations in temps,and choosing the right stuff underfoot,wheels,decks,shoes,will decide your speeds for you.At around 55* F,I think that's when the best speeds occur.It's a subjective thing,but that's what I've observed.Keep in mind that heat also affects your shoes,and also how your wheels slide.In warm weather,the temps will alter (usually lengthen) your stopping distances. At speed,heat will also mean that your feet will cook up much quicker.Extra insoles help keep the extra warmth from intruding too far into your flesh. One more thing to consider here is Leathers. Leather,as a material,tends not to 'breathe' well. If you get serious about pursuing higher speeds,you'll need leathers to protect your hide.If you think you can ride a whole day in un-vented leathers on a hot day,think again.I tend to pick cooler days to go luging,as the extra burden of the leathers is usually enough to make me want to stay comfortable and cool enough to feel sweat evaporate. Your call,of course...
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running
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On 5/15/2004 Earlymorning woodies
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Try running then falling to your knees pad help if you have leathers try falling on you ass
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Prayer
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On 5/14/2004 PSR
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JG,it isn't that praying dosen't work,you're usually going too fast for your Guardian Angel to catch up with ya!!
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