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Gravity Super G's
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On 5/31/2004 SiNiSt3R
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Is it me or are super g's hard to slide. and are cliff sliders any better. I learned sliding with abec 11 70's flashback in 92a. sliding was so easy and i learned toe and heelslides even pulled off perfect pedulums. Well needless to say that ive burned those wheels out in 2 sliding sessions. So i picked myself up a set up super g's and found that they are very hard to slide. They grip so much that i have the hardest time having them break traction. I can even slide alot easier on my gumballs that are 75a. Can someone please explain this?
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Sliding in the rain
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On 5/31/2004
airin
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Yesterday we took a shot at sliding right after it had stopped raining. The road was slick but out boards weren't being deluged with the wet stuff (hopefully we saved our bearings a bit of the worst in terms of moisture).
It was our first time skating on the wet and though we found it pretty treacherous to try any carving when it came to sliding, what a treat! The wheels broke free so easily at such low speeds. It made my Flashies at their 78a feel like a much harder slide wheel!
So now we are stoked to go practice some high speed slide technique at low speeds by heading out when the roads are wet....wahooo!
Is there anyone else out there that takes advantage of the rain for sliding practice?
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sliding
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On 5/31/2004 hc
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silversurfer,
my recommendation
a wheelbase of 19-21", this allows back foot near the kick tail.
wide @9" with mellow concave.
I like stiff maple boards, usually 8-ply for no flex.
check out cliff's board, note the foot positioning. I believe he takes a gravity (I forgot what model) and reshaped it. The back truck is relocated backwards to give a shorter kicktail.
http://www.gravityboard.com/support/team/ccoleman/new_2003/ccoleman_church.jpg
trucks, indys.
wheels, I got all the wheels listed on my page. I really like my 92a flashbacks (fastest hard wheels I have tried) and 94a no skoolz. But they seem to wear quick.
Cliff use to rave about the old powell mini cubics, they are durable and and offers effortless sliding. But no one has been able to dublicate the formula.
hc
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/sliding.html
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Thank you, hc!
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On 5/31/2004
silversurfer
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Nice article. Compliments your page nicely.
How come no one ever discusses the SPECIFIC equipment they use for sliding?
hc, would you mind sharing your equipment list?
What specific board, trucks and wheels would you recommend to a beginer?
I was thinking a 36" board with 150mm trucks and 90a Gravity Street G wheels,
any comments or suggestions?
Thank you, you still have the best sliding page on the net!
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sliding
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On 5/31/2004 hc
wrote in from
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a new sliding page..
http://www.eryc.co.uk/articles/article178.html
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Flatspots
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On 5/28/2004 isabelle
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I found the clip and took it off the Gravityboard.com messageboard
Posted by Michael on 13:35:46 5/6/2004 from 64.156.193.250:
In reply to: Re: Flat Spots posted by Skater on 23:11:52 5/5/2004 from 61.209.194.166:
You can wear a wheel all the way down to the hub without flat spotting. I've seen several of our riders, and most of the Berkeley crew do it. It definitely takes practice, but in turn forces you to slide faster, and longer by keeping the board pointed down the hill and keep the wheels spinning. Just try to stay away from getting the board perpindicular to the hill. That's key.
Hope that save you time, but there were 4 prior posts to the one I showed.
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Neal Peel/flat spots
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On 5/28/2004 isabelle
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post on Gravityboard.com's web site and ask......I don't flatspot, but have seen past posts on the subject on that site - seems it has to do with how go slide. Go through the history on their message board. Good luck.
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Flat Spots...?
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On 5/28/2004
Neal Peel
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I've been riding some 85a gravity street wheels which I though were great - soft enough for our bumpy uk roads but they also slide really easily. The only problem is that not only have they started to cone but they've also become all miss shapen and they judder when they run. On my back wheels it's so bad that if you spin em they rock back to the same position. Is this a case of Flat Spots? I've only just really started slidin and so haven't come across it before. Any advice anyone...?!
PS Cliff Coleman rocks!
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Slide vs foot
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On 5/27/2004 isabelle
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Sure I've seen plenty (and done myself!?) plenty of slide wipe-outs, but the injuries have been minimal; scrapes, bruises....BUT foot-brake injuries I've seen have been horrible.....almost broken jaw, snapped (hyperextended) knees....
Being lower to the ground does have many advatages....not so far to fall versus foot braking, which if you get into problems causes you to hit the ground from a standing position, which can leads to some SERIOUS injuries.
Just trying to help newbies keep safe.......can't have fun in a hospital bed!
PEACE!
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Footbraking vs. sliding
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On 5/27/2004 Shredder
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I think the main difference is that when footbraking you are standing, while in a slide you're crouching, meaning you are closer to the ground. This means in case of a crash, your impact on the road is less severe when you slide than when you footbrake and fall from a standing position. It is also true that slides are MUCH more fun! But I still believe that the footbrake has many advantages, too. You can hit the footbrake faster while or after airbraking, you'll stay in your line, which is mandatory when racing or when too many buddies are around and you won't trash those expensive soft racing wheels. The main problem with the footbrake i.m.o. is that it needs a lot of practice and still can be risky. So I go for honing my skills in BOTH sliding and footbraking to have all the options :-)
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Footbraking vs silding
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On 5/26/2004
Jogger
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You have never seen someone fall while sliding? Jesus I must be hanging with some useless sliders then. They fall heaps.
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Foot vs slide
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On 5/26/2004 isabelle
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Safety is paramount and I STILL advocate learning to slide to a stop versus footbraking...yes we have different styles to choose from, BUT sliding is faster, safer, funner, thus to me a better means to learn to stop, especially in emergancy situations.
I've SEEN too many people eat big s#@! footbraking, but no one from sliding...ask Judi O'Yama about the dangers of footbraking...she almost broke her FACE doing so........be safe, have fun.
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braking rubber
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On 5/26/2004 Duane
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truck rubber is crap, it is mostly butadiene which is inferior to natural rubber (polyisoprene). Get some motorcycle tire rubber, it is thinner, softer, and has no reinforcing wires (except for the edge bead which you won't use anyway). Go for the wide back tire from a performance bike. Any bike shop will have them for free. or, my favorite, order a sheet of natural gum rubber from www.mcmaster.com, it is the same as the bottom of Van's, which works extremely well, no melted black tire goo.
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Braking rubber
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On 5/26/2004 Shredder
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Anders- I use a car winter tire- they are softer. I then use a jigsaw to cut out the sole for my shoe. Then I pull out all the wires that stick out the sides so I can tear off the part of the tire that has the profile. This is a much lighter solution and works very well for me. Braking is effective without skidding and the soles last forever...
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Footbraking for begginners
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On 5/26/2004
Jogger
wrote in from
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G'day all.
I agree with everyone's opinion sofar except Isabelles. I've found that the difference between footbraking and sliding as a choice or style goes beyond the slide itself. If you ride with your trucks tight the chances are you will footbrake, this is probably because tight trucks don't feel like they wanna turn enough to slide anyway. Of course if you have your trucks looser or grew up riding with loose trucks then your basic intincts are "turn my way outa this s#@!".
On a similar note if you want to learn how to footbrake I recomend tightening your trucks right up. This gives added stabilty when balancing on one foot. I've jumped on mates boards who are sliders (I'm a footbraker) and there was no way in hell I was gonna take a foot of the board, It felt like balancing on one of those ankle strengtheners. and if I had of I woulda come off for sure.
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psycholoyd slidegear
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On 5/25/2004 vaitus
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...good things come to those who wait and...this time I had to wait, but it was worth it.
Psycholoyd high tech (;-) hs1 hand sandal module and hdpe slide pucks (check it on www.slidegear.com) is one of the most welcome additions to my slide schtuff, no more lotech homemade sliding gloves falling apart at the beginning of that long waited for weekend session or having to replace cheap and hard to trim cutting board plastic pads every 2 weeks or less. Thick HDPE pads slide smooth,last longer and I can use the hand sandal over wrist pads or different pairs of gloves so I can let those nasty wet ones out to dry. Dedicated slide gloves might be sturdier than the hand sandal, but I like its versatility more.
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Buttslider
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On 5/25/2004 isabelle
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As per "vaitus" watchout for unweighting or you'll be "sticking to the sheets" for a couple of weeks minumum - ouch!
Cliff....GREAT to hear your words, sorry about family matters...hopeall is better and SUPER STOKED ON THE SUCCESS OF YOUR CLINICS!!!!!
You rule forever in my bookand I know we all feel the same at my house. We're BBQing this Saturday...MISS YOU LOTS! Hope to make it back up to Nor Cal. to play soon or see you for sure at the LCO!
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slide clinics
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On 5/25/2004 vaitus
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yo Cliff, hope this raises some interest here in ncland..
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Slide Clinics
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On 5/25/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
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It's great to see such interest in my slide clinics! I just recently mov4ed my computer and still have yet to set it up and get back on line. I will do this soon and then I will set up a Cliffslider web-site. If you need to get in touch in the mean time, send snail mail to me at: Cliff Coleman, 31 Norwood, Kensington, CA 94707.
I will run a clinic in every location that can get me there and arrange for accomodations. The cost for students wishing to learn to slide is now at an introductory price of $60.00. This will include insurance for the clinic.
Bear with me, I've had some family members take ill recently and they have been my priority. Never the less, I will continue to set up and schedule clinics as soon as possible.
Thanks,
Cliff Coleman
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avilas
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On 5/25/2004 vaitus
wrote in from
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these puppies can slide at slow speeds with very little input, (84a front 81a rear, bozi gs and up trucks), kind of defeats logic that they have less traction than my 84a flashbacks *cones* ....gotta watch out not to unweight or I'll need to order some psycho slidegear for my butt ...:-)
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Newbie slider board set-up
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On 5/25/2004 isabelle
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To start-off go shorter board with regular trucks and hard wheels....it's CAKE to slide these and you don't need to go faster than 10mph, thus avoiding "learning the hard way."
As you get better, go longer board, wider trucks, softer wheels, then you can MACH slides, bomb, do anything on your board, including cruising to the store for food without worring about rocks, cracks in the road!
Hope that helped...goto www.gravityboard.com for some visual aides!
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Sliding Set Up
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On 5/25/2004
silversurfer
wrote in from
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hc - I read your recommendations on your site, but I am looking for more specific recommendations for a sliding board.
What do you personally use? What specific set up would you recommend to a beginer?
Thank you, I love your website!
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mh slides
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On 5/25/2004 hugh r
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Mike came down for Chipmans Skate Off last year and was pulling some very insane high speed slides on his freebord... many were well over 100 ft and at close to 35 mph. He made them look easy! HR
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freebord
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On 5/25/2004 hc
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I made slider gloves for Mike Hoppy, team rider for freebord.
He was probably the first freeborder to use slider gloves.
He can pull real long coleman slides due to the freebord design.
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freebord biatch
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On 5/24/2004 Mike Manning
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well, freebord is a modified skateboard, so...
and seeing as it's selling feature is that it slides, heck...
anyway
wish I could slide like that on a normal board..
I was wondering.. how do you guys feel about board width while sliding? I have an old waterski that I converted, it's pretty skinny, and I can bust into a slide real easy, cause I get the heel over the edge and push.
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