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| Q&A: Cliff Coleman on Sliding and Safety (1159 Posts)
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wrist guards, slide gloves or both?
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On 10/8/2005 goofy-foot
wrote in from
Venezuela
(200.35.nnn.nnn)
Hey! I am almost 40 and looking to skate again. Just bought a longboard and plan to slide, but I don´t want to go to any hill until I am oiled and well protected. I already have knee and elbow pads. I am looking for a Helmet and, slide gloves or wrist guards, but don´t know what´s best. Do you use wrist guards with your slide gloves? What do you use?
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Mmmmmmmmmmmm?
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On 10/4/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Steak!
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One Footed Pendulum
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On 10/4/2005
lonerider
wrote in from
United States
(65.249.nnn.nnn)
Hey Dan, thanks for the suggestions, I definitely notice you need more speed for toeside pendulums as you mentioned, but speed was not an issue for my heelside pendulums. The problem was that my slide hand was too far towards the nose of the board, this would prevent my shoulders from fully rotating and swing the weight off my right foot and I would end up trying to do a one footed pendulum after 180.
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some thoughts
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On 10/4/2005 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
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lonerider i'm no cliff but i have toe/heel pendulums down fine. something that might help you- you might not be going fast enough because it should actually be easier to swing back to regular if you're going all the way to 180, that's the whole concept of a pendulum. speed is really important for me for the toesides because it seems to take me longer to complete the slide than heelsides so i lose more speed. and you must commit torsion in your upper body as well as your lower body- ie. just pusing the slide with your legs is no good because most of your weight and momentum is in your upper body. this will become especially important when attempting stand ups or 360's. wear whatever protection you need to in order to wholly committ at speed and you'll progress faster. or be like some of my friends and smoke some weed 1st- they bomb 40mph in shorts, t-shirts and FLIP FLOPS. hope the serious part of my advice helps -dan
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Think I got part of it
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On 10/4/2005
lonerider
wrote in from
United States
(65.249.nnn.nnn)
An update, got some advice from people on SF and was told to straighten my elbow on my slide arm and bring the my slide hand closer to my rear trucks (in the video I have my slide hand near the nose of the board and still a bit bent) and that seems to open up my lead shoulder and lets me get a smoother upper body rotation, which translated into a more rotation in the legs/board. I had a quick session after work last night and got 2 full 180 rotations in my heelsides (so I'm actually rolling switch for a moment before reverting back via the pendulum). I need to try it a few more times to confirm I've gotten it... then I move onto making my toeside pendulums smoother.
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sliders
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On 10/3/2005 nick
wrote in from
United States
(68.185.nnn.nnn)
dude, my earliest memory of seeing slidin was the bones brigade show. then i saw a couple of skate movies with with some high speed slahing too. myself i always skated alleys with my buddies in ob san diego. you should for sure sk8 point loma area. since i moved to sactown, the only time i went down hillin is when i slashed down mason street. i had some machanix glove they seem to last all the way down to almost the bottom. anyway glad to hear your still shreddin.
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Heelside Pendulums
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On 10/3/2005
lonerider
wrote in from
United States
(65.249.nnn.nnn)
Hi, I've been practicing slide for the last month and can do heelside pendulum except for the fact that I don't get it all the way 180 before I revert back. Whenever I try to push the board to a full 180, I think I get too much weight on my front foot (left) and none on my backfoot (right) and I pop off as the board kind of bucks me off. I think I extend my body too far from my board, or I don't push out my rear leg enough... I will get a video of when I get knocked off, but I was wondering if you could take a lot at this and see if there are suggestions to my body positioning that you could suggest off the bat (I notice my knees aren't as tipped over as much as you suggest in that Faltown Slide Clinic video also my butt is noticeably farther back away from the board).
http://www.dotphoto.com/Go.asp?l=ChangArvin&P=&AID=125889&IID=94651158&T=1 (about 3 MB, it doesn't seem to work on Firefox, but works on IE).
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Nick
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On 9/30/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Nick,
Last year I became the "B" group World Super Giant Slalom Champ. I figured this year that I would step up and race the Pros. For whatever reason, and without any excuses, I was SLOW! I SUCKED, and I'm now retired from slalom racing. I have no regrets and had a blast racing over the last five years. I'm much healthier from my involvement in Slalom racing. I'm grateful for that.
Next for me is to concentrate on pushing the Slide movement. I'm really enjoying watching Sliding as a disipline. It has taken on a life of its own. The friends that I've made who also enjoy sliding are very important to me!
Before I get too old, I must make a trip to Brazil! I want to skate with the Sliders there.
Cliff Coleman
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come back
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On 9/30/2005 nick coleman
wrote in from
United States
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cliff,
hows the racing coming along?
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Faltown Video
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On 9/28/2005 Patrick
wrote in from
United States
(68.85.nnn.nnn)
The video of the clinic looked insane and gave me a ton of pointers. Thanks and keep up the killer slides.
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is cliff really an amazing physicist in hiding?
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On 9/26/2005 dan@CSU
wrote in from
United States
(216.17.nnn.nnn)
cliff coleman on sliding, safety, and yo-yos. :)
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Cliff and Sergio Faltown Films
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On 9/24/2005
boneless
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(80.3.nnn.nnn)
Dear Cliff,
We've finally finished editing the films from your Faltown Slide Clinic with Sergio
Three films now up at
http://www.saftandboneless.co.uk
Thanks again for a great weekend!
We can also send you a dvd so you can watch them properly if you wish.
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Dustin
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On 9/21/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Dustin,
Thanks for the complement. I'm just a regular guy that started earlier than most.
Cliff Coleman
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Tyler
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On 9/21/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Tyler,
Check the article "Street Slidin", at, "cliffslider.com". It says it all. If you still have trouble, tell me what is happening and I'll see if I can help you out.
Cliff Coleman
P.S. When you get to the article, click View on you tool bar and enlarge the text so that you can read the article and print it out.
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Jason
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On 9/21/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Jason,
Thanks for the offer! I must tell you however that I don't ride metal decks. They are just too dangerous. I wouldn't want to lose my board and worry about what it might hit.
I ride a deck for sliding that is about 36" long and has an inside hole to hole measurement of 18.5". I have straight rails from the front to the back. The outside of the wheels line up with the outside of the deck. It also has a double kick and a slight concave.
Thanks again,
Cliff Coleman
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Sliding
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On 9/21/2005 Tyler
wrote in from
United States
(65.24.nnn.nnn)
Yo what up clif my names Tyler im friends with Ethan White i just got a new board and were out skating and im trying to get some slides down but i cant get it going heal side and ethans flippin a s#@! so i was just looking for some pointers man so yeahh how bout it peace
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Legend
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On 9/21/2005 Dustin Anderson
wrote in from
United States
(65.107.nnn.nnn)
Cliff, You are a legend and an inspiration.
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riser and truck set up
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On 9/19/2005
Jason Bakes
wrote in from
Canada
(24.207.nnn.nnn)
Hey Cliff,this is Bakes from British Columbia.I just stepped in from building some decks,I would like to send some pics to get your thoughts,but not ready to go public.I was wondering if you had some prefured truck and riser set ups,particulary for sliding.I biult some pretty wild aluminium decks my best yet a rigid down hill racer.The deck sits lower than the trucks pivot point,with my old school medium hite 11 1/2 inch wide trackers its stable as hell.The rear of the deck turns twice as hard front,I broke into my first controlled slide last night and was stoked.If you have a e-mail thats not public I would love to send some pics.Send some thoughts on what set ups you like,in return i'll custom biuld you a deck to your liking.I know your old school,but you will like what im mixing for the new. p.s Your truly skin doner #1
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i wish
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On 9/17/2005 nick
wrote in from
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nbs graham,
s#@! i wish, i live in sactown now.but i grew up right off catalina blvd. land of big curbs is cool too, have you seen cabrillo elementry?
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Hello Matt
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On 9/16/2005
Derik
wrote in from
Germany
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Ghooste is right. But You can slide any board. The longer, the harder to throw around.
Don't know what board You're riding. I started to slide on a 44" lush bahari with Flashbacks 78a. Thats kind of heavy to slide, but once You get it, it's easy. I'll change now to a gravity 39" with two kicktails and harder wheels, to have mor fun.
Take a look at the gravityboard.com homepage. You'll find a lot of sliding there. See Sergio Yuppie, this guy is nuts. He uses about 1 to 5 set of wheels for a single sliding session.
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Hey Matt
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On 9/16/2005 The Ghooste
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Hey there, couldnt help butting in on this one! Go for a board with the wheelbase about the width of your shoulders, it is all preference tho, go for one with a concave and possibly double kicks. Wheels should be as hard as it comes/ish 90a+ and if they're 66mm or bigger you'll easily get enough speed to slide. Randals are perfect but you might want to flip the hangers to get them lower as the lower the set up the easier it is. Enjoy man, and welcome to a world of safty where you can push the envelope and still walk away afterwards!!
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wheels for sliding
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On 9/16/2005
yoyo schulz
wrote in from
Germany
(195.243.nnn.nnn)
I just recently built myself some slide gloves and sliding is so cool...and FUN!
So far I just took my wide street deck (8.25x32) with some loosened trucks and put some old worn wheels on.
With the old, hard wheels, you can learn to slide without spending a lot of $$.
Just gotta find a steeper hill after learning the basics on a flat/moderate steep hill.
The footage in one of the old Powell vids was very inspiring.....
YOYO, skateboarder
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Nick and Jared ...
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On 9/15/2005
NBS_Graham
wrote in from
United States
(68.8.nnn.nnn)
Nick and Jared, there will be a gathering of the NinjaBombSquad Friday 16 SEP at Del Mar Ave -- Sunset Cliffs area of Point Loma. Our crew (Cliff knows us, we skated together in SLO Town) does a lot of sliding ... I personally LOVE Point Loma and OB alleys -- Come skate with us.
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Learning to stop
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On 9/15/2005
Matt
wrote in from
United States
(24.180.nnn.nnn)
Hey Cliff,
I do a lot of downhill skating but I'm at the point where its getting way to dangerous to bomb hills without knowing how to stop. I went and talked to Big John at CCS in San Luis and he recommended I get a new board to learn to slide on and pointed me to you to figure out what kind to get.
Here's my question: I'm about 6'2" 170lbs, so what should the wheelbase be on the board? Can you recommend any brands or places to look? How big and how hard should the wheels be? Any recommendations on where to get those? I've got a pair of 180 Randal R-II's, will those be alright for trucks?
My plan is to make a board so that I can learn to slide and be able to apply those skills to my longer downhill board. Any info you could give me would be awesome, thanks.
-Matt
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flatspots
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On 9/14/2005 Ghooste
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(193.113.nnn.nnn)
Yeah man, the only way is to change your slides and pendulum when you see or hear a flatspot comming. dont slide with board at 90' to the direction of travel
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