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Forest Heights, Portland, Oregon
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On 8/5/2000
sam
wrote in from
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A large, new development deforesting the entire west side of Portland's west hills has immaculate roads that vary from too steep to barely moving. Forest Heights is as fast as you want to go. With a friend and a car at night works great.
Every Wednesday at 7:00 there is a group ride at Mt. Tabor Park, some boards provided.
Kick ass.
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Ridgefield
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On 8/5/2000 Herbn
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Maybe it was just to early at night or maybe it was because it was friday,but besides being the sickest hills,last night they were compounded by carsz;lots of cars,car coming up the hill, down the hill,two separete occasions of cars backing out of driveways,freakin awful.This area would/could be the ultimate spot for a extreme games type race.Thee sick street is Elm St.(as in"nightmare on")it slopes out steep enough to have a stairs instead of sidewalk(but doesn't),it sort of undulates at the top,changing angle of discent constantly ,just a couple of degrees nothing that would produce lift(maybe)but really,really fast,I will break into the 50+ club on this hill, no doubt,how far into the fifties? good question.The bottom half,smooths out and gets just a little mellower.Years ago,after sliding through the top half,i was clocked at 40+a little, just bombing from mid point.Two blocks away is Ray St.mellow push off stretch,quickly steepens into a wide angular intersection with a deadend street,road turns to left 25 degrees and drop straight into a right hand version of thee photogenic turn at Laguna seca,dropping and turning simultaneously,only not quite as well banked as laguna.It flattens out a bit then goes into a dropping 160 degree lefty switchback , that may be rollable, but its so fun to slide around,there's a 90 degree righty almost immediately then straight to the bottom, which is a T, so you have one more 90 turn then the finnish line,imagine a pushing finnish? if you want to throw some fitness into this sport!
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Netherlands, lange Raarberg, Limburg
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On 8/4/2000
stan
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This is for the Dutch riders out there. Check out 'de lange Raarberg'which is close to Meerssen Limburg. During daytime hardly any traffic. speeds of 50 kph possible. All and all a pretty good ride for Dutch standards.
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Camden
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On 8/2/2000
Armadillo Jumper
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Hey Brian in South Louisiana. I you want you can come up here to Camden ,Ar. I could larn ya thing or two.
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Louisiana??
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On 8/2/2000 Brian
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Just wondering if there were any other longskaters in Louisiana...not many natural hills in south Louisiana but HWY 66 in the Tunica Hills area is a fun bomb...just a little heavy on traffic though........
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Central Texas
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On 8/2/2000
Kirb¥
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hey If any of yall ever have a chance to come to central Texas. It's known as the hill counry for a reason. It has hills of all lengths and slopes just waiting to be bombed. The only problem I've had is that a lot of the roads aren't paved very well and that gives you a shaky ride. I haven't had a chance to ride in any of the bigger citys (Austin, College Station) but smaller ones like those in bell county are usually under patrolled by cops and don't have heavy traffic. as a final word of advice "DOn't stop thinking about tommorow"
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tokyo
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On 7/31/2000
Mike G
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I belive that skateboarding is not allowed in most places in tokyo. i could be wrong but i heard that from somewhere.
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Tokyo
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On 7/28/2000
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
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Fuzz,
Tokyo has 14,000,000 people and there isn't much room for any great skate spots that I know of.
I've been there 5 times and I noticed the roads are narrow and crowded. If you have friends there, maybe they can show you some local spots?
Let us know what you find after your visit.
Cliff Coleman
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Tokyo
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On 7/27/2000 FUZZ
wrote in from
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I'm headed for Tokyo this weekend and am planning on taking
my board. Anybody with any skateboarding info on the city.
I'm thinking I can do some late night cruising if nothing else.
Thanks
skating round the world...
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Question
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On 7/24/2000 Adam
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Golden Gate Park on the weekend is ideal. There's one street that is closed off and it is mostly flat, but also has some gentle slopes for practicing.
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Question
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On 7/24/2000
Andrew
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Hows it guys. I am looking for a good place in the bay area to take a chick that is just learning to longboard skate. She is decent at moving around and maintaining balance, but I don't think bombing the hills of Frisco is smart. Any suggestions?
Thanks, laters,
Andrew
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Vans Orange
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On 7/24/2000
Hamm
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With 2weeks ago run to Vans Ontario still fresh in my head, we made to trek from San Diego to Vans Orange on Sat. I must say that I like Orange much better. The street course seemed kind of haphazardly laid out, and the outdoor concrete section is useless, but the bowls are to die for.
The big 1/2 pipe seemed like it has wider transactions and thusly a little easier to ride.
But the cats meow is the combi-pool/bowl. That thing is a true piece of skateboard art.
Dave
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Pedestrian Law
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On 7/21/2000
DT
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well said Cliff. i talked to Tony the other day, he says hi.
to add to that, keep in mind that your city and county ordinances are a major factor, they are more specific and often offer high priced tickets for skaters. These are more common in cities.
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California pedestrian law
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On 7/21/2000
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
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Jonnieo,
Read the pedestrian code again. It actually says that a pedrestrian must be on the sidewalk or in the crosswalk. When and if there is no sidewalk, then the law states that the pedestrian must proceed on the furthest lefthand side of the road.
Before bicycles were incorporated into the vechicle code they too were required to proceed on the furthest lefthand side of the road. They relalized the physical implications of head-on crashes and changed this negligent law. Now bicycles are part of the vechicle code and must obey the laws of this same vechicle code.
Another point, In the state of California any human powered vechicle other than a bicycle is considered a pedestrian. When the pedestrian laws were written the authors of these laws didn't imagine skaters etc as pedestrians and the implications and consequences of the law as it now stands. It would be suicidal to skate in the on-coming traffic lane. Until it is tested in a court of law, the pedestrian code as it is now written is both negligent and dangerous.
Lastly, skateboarders are citizens of the United States and protected by the constitution. Check the 14th amendment, equal protection under the law. If you can skate safely and follow common sense rules of the road then you too should be allowed to skate the roads for transportation. Skaters should be able to do this safely and in the right hand lane.
Some of this is legal fact and some of it is solely my own opinion.
Sincerely,
Cliff Coleman
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state parks
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On 7/21/2000
jonnieo
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I called the park office, and a few hours later the head ranger called back. He had looked it up and couldn't find anything, so he called the CHP, who told him that skateboarders are pedestrians and as pedestrians they have to stay as far right on the road as possible and have to yield to any cars that come. We were yielding to cars, but weren't on the far right. He said that it was technically jaywalking. I got the name of the guy who called me, so if i get stopped again, i can refer to that.
As cliff says, just be cool when you get stopped and your chances of survival will be better. If you were a cop and someone was being a dick to you, wouldn't you get pissed and be more inclined to cite them?
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Where ever you get stopped skating
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On 7/20/2000
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
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Some of you guys are getting mad. This is understandable but it won't help you solve your situation. If you are willing to risk losing your skate spot then tell the cop you are not going to leave. This is a bad idea and he/she will probably take your board and then site you. REMEMBER, THE COP DOES NOT TRY THE CASE, IT WILL BE TRIED BY A JUDGE IN A COURT OF LAW. My advise is to never argue with the cops. I would advise someone who thinks they know the law to just leave and then come back later if you are certain you didn't break any laws. If you get cited later then take your case to court.
I have been stopped in Berkeley a few times over 40 years of riding there. I won't pressure the cop into citing me. If I argue with them then they will have time to prepare a case against me and will know all of my arguements before the court date. I wouldn't force the issue until they actually cite me. Even then the cop might not be able to show up for the court date and the citation will be dissmissed.
Keep the knowledge you have gained from legal research and wait for the citation. Be polite to the cops. If you go to court it will be in your favor to do so.
To make a long story short, leave that day and skate elsewhere. Come back later to skate again. If your cited then try the case in court. I'm not an attorney! But if you do get cited and would like to discuss your case with me I'd be glad to talk it over with you. Because I'm not an attorney it would be unlawful for me to act as one. I would however share my oppinions with you.
Sincerely,
Cliff Coleman
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National and State Parks
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On 7/20/2000 Pre-School Rider
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Jonnieo,I have a nephew who is in the Park Service,and the law in parks belongs to Rangers,BUT,they are orderly,and this Rangers' superiors will likely clarify the issue fairly.Keep those notes handy!Hugh called it on attitude,as quick deferment usually takes "push comes to shove" away from the badge wearer,and the machismo fades.State parks often have an "activities" clause that allows for recreation,which skateboarding happens to be(when's the last time your Frisbee was confiscated?),so that's in our favor.Natonal parks are really just big woodlots for the lumber companies to use,once the old growth is truly gone.Our Govt. rules these with a heavy hand,and the Feds don't play nice.We're lucky up here in VT. I have access to a nearly mile long hill in a state park nearby,where we can set cones,freecarve,tuck,just as long we behave!
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pigs in state parks
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On 7/20/2000 cmc
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Figures... he didn't know his as@ from his his elbow. I highly doubt he could tell you what statue or what the skateboarding law fell under especially when he doesn't have to deal with that every day. I was stopped with pre school for the same thing. When I asked the mighty officer what law we were breaking he said " well it could be this or that..." but offered no real answer as to what exact law we were breaking. Damn donut eaters! Nolo.com is a site that may help with confrontation with the pigs as far as your rights are concerned.
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Philadelphia, PA area
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On 7/20/2000
Vlad Jones
wrote in from
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I know my South-Jersey/Philly area of the country is a far, sad cry from the hills of southern california, but I have been running seriously low on good hills to bomb. anyone know of any good hills around this area, in PA or North Jersey? Insane or not, I'll try anything at this point. I figure there's probably not, but any input is appreciated...
Mongo Forever.
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S.F. Bay Area
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On 7/20/2000
Burns
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I was wondering if there are any fun but not to hardcore places to longboard around the bay area. I've been looking for long routes without insane speeds. Any help is appreciated.
burns
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state park
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On 7/20/2000
jonnieo
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I was being very polite about it, I thanked him for not citing me. We were just carving the hill and stopped and went to the side when cars came. He passed by us when we were going down, (and we got off the boards and let him pass) but on the way up, he stopped. I just called the park and they said that they would get back to me about it. I'll keep you updated on how it turns out.
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cops and rangers
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On 7/20/2000
hugh r
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As an almost 40 year old guy who has pushed limits and legalities for most of his life, I have found a few ways to deal with these type of situations (By the way Herbn is right) Just say "sorry, see ya". Arguing points of law is useless. Bottom line, in a State Park, the Rangers are the law. I know a few CA Park Rangers and they are actually quite cool, unless you piss them off. Then they are just like any other pissed off guy with a badge.
One of the risks of skating is getting busted (that may also be one of the attractions. When Fuzz comes back he can address the psych issues of that one) So just keep low key, be pleasant, and when you get popped, throw your hands up and say "sorry, thanks for the warning"
HR
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High and mighty
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On 7/20/2000 Herbn
wrote in from
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Seems to me, if a park ranger guy thinks there's a law,and there isn't and you push the issue,since he thinks there should be, pretty soon there will be a law.I just keep rides at "illegal" places low key,evenly spaced(infrequent as possible)and have yet to be actually witnessed by a cop doing the crime of high speed skateboarding on a public street,park street,or downhill water drainage pipe. If i ever get caught the strategy will be "yes sir,i'll leave", by the way the drainage pipe thing was wishfull thinking.
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Legality in state parks???
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On 7/20/2000
jonnieo
wrote in from
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Today, my friend and I were walking back up a hill that we had ridden in a local state park (montana de oro to be exact) and a ranger stopped to talk to us. He said that it was illegal to skateboard in the state park, but he would let us go this time. I doubted it was illegal, as it is a public road, and asked him what section of the california law code addresssed it. He replied that it was in the public resources code, section 4318, title 14. When I got home, I looked it up online (at http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/calawquery?codesection=prc&codebody=) and there is no section 4318 in the public resources code!!! I also did a search for "skateboard" in all of the 29 sections of california's law codes (at http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html) and nothing addressed skateboarding in skate parks. I wrote down the section, so I am sure that's what he said and I'm not getting it mixed up. Anyway, I'm going to call the park tomorrow and pursue the matter further. He was kind pissing me off because he was acting all high and mighty, feeling good about himself to put a "low down skateboarder" in his place. He was like "If I catch you boys in my park again with those skateboards, it's going to cost you big time."
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lake county
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On 7/19/2000
namon
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All right then, ill see you in about two weeks heheh
bomb hills
namon
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