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Board Review
London attacks, June 2017
On 6/10/2017 PSR wrote in from United States  (65.96.nnn.nnn)

I didn't even, really, know just where to post this... But, Spanish skateboarder Ignacio Echeverría, is a Hero of amazing scope, using only his skateboard to try and defend an attacked woman, against two knife-wielding Terrorist intent on killing and dying while doing so!! Amazing, and by far, historically Heroic! Wow! My heart goes out Ignacio's Loved Ones, Relatives, and Friends! This Man died doing the best he could in a horrible place/time, but he did so in compassion for others nearby! He's a true Hero! May God Bless his Soul, and, we should all remember his valiance! "PSR"

 
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How to kill a newbie
On 5/20/2016 PSR wrote in from United States  (65.96.nnn.nnn)

So, I've warned Ya.. DO NOT buy ANYTHING from Walmart, Target, nor ONLINE that as plastic trucks (made in China!) on them. And, I say this, even as I own 3 active, after 25 yrs.+ of use, Seismic plastic-based/hangered trucks as Racing Trucks... I want to be VERY Clear Here... What I see is that someone in MARKETING decided that since Plastic is CHEAPER to use as a BASE MATERIAL for skateboard trucks, they should INCREASE PROFITS by using this INADEQUATE POLYMER to REPLACE Aluminium (which, itself, come in a variety of strength ratings!) just by COPYING the MOLDS of ALUMINIUM TRUCKS. THIS CANNOT WORK!!! When you SUBSTITUTE one material for another, you LOSE the original INTENT of the Engineer/Designer, because ALL OF THE STRENGTH VARIABLES get TOSSED OUT, OUT, FAR OUT, the window, and your "end product" LOOKS correct, but is in fact Devoid of the Strength of Structure it as it is NO LONGER a piece of the Basic Design! [ WALMART, BEWARE, YOU WILL BE SUED!!! ] As for My Seismics, designed by Dan Gesmer , they're fine, a quarter century and many millions of turns over hundreds of miles later. Why? They were over-built, German-Made by BBV Aircraft, and the variables thought about ahead of time. I raced on them for 12+ years, and the ones I've left leave me no reason to think they wouldn't win again, if a Slalom Race was on my doorstep. I toss out the ADVISORY above, because I believe that Kryptonics and Retailers have fielded an INFERIOR,Accident-waiting-to-happen, type of product that'll wound, maim, or Kill some Newbie Longboarder because they THOUGHT they had the real deal, when, IN FACT, they're on a BAD COPY of a decent downhill truck, but one made not from sub-standard metal (Something the Chinese are Infamous for Already!), but rather even less capable cheap PLASTIC where hardened metal is preferred. It's the 'Perfect Storm' brewing under some kiddo's feet. So, Riders and PARENTS, Beware, please... More on this Fiasco later; Meanwhile, ask Questions, don't BUY in haste!

 
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cheap skateboard
On 4/7/2016 Abdus sabur wrote in from Bangladesh  (202.86.nnn.nnn)

I love skateboarding. I saw some posts which include some information about cheap skateboard. You can get some cheap longboard skateboard reviews from different site like--http://www.skateboardlab.com/. You can also learn various tricks of skateboarding.

 
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it's "LONG", How???
On 12/17/2015 PSR wrote in from United States  (65.96.nnn.nnn)

So, after seeing the absolute decline, from the marketing end, of "product definition" in the last 8 years, and seeing companies like BAM absolutely BAN Concrete Wave (Or any Snowboard mags! Here in NH, Really?? They've got more surfer/sailboard mags up than snowboard mags, yet the 'coastline' in really, really small and Rocky, and NO, NOT a ONE, Longboard Skate Rags!! BAM SUCKS !! I cancelled my bookcard over this, and jibe those Texans every damn chance I get, in-store. I go in, browse, then ARGUE at the Register, buy nothing or little, and leave, knowing it's on their cams... BAM should be aggressively boycotted, but, preferably, as I do, which is bring Product to the Counter, and REFUSE to buy it all, because THEY don't Carry What YOU Want!!

Anyhow, back to the Industry and it's slip-ups..
So, how is it that a Penny board, under 33" long, is "Somehow" a 'mini-longboard'? WTF!!!! NO, it's a RETRO piece of PLASTIC, CIRCA 1973!!! PERIOD! Hell, Penny doesn't even do the basic model rightly, as, at least, Globe seems to be able to do (I'm NOT a Globe fan, but at least respect their attempts to bring a moderate dose of quality at a good price; they function, which is Far Better than Penny can boast!). So, What?, here, is it that the ideal of a 'longboard', a board that can Cruise, Go Fast, is simply beyond the imaginings of Corporate China and it's American Traitors that want to 'Buy In' on a market trend? ... ... ... YUP!

BUY what you will, but keep it AMERICAN, CANADIAN, or EURO!! BUY IT LONG, FAST, and not made by Kryptonics (formerly of CO, CA, and now of CHINA!), and please, quit buying China Bones bearings, get Ed's, or even buy Hoover industrial 608's for sewing machines, at least they be from Singapore, and not from a backer of N. Korea or Iran (Hint here,, um, China!).

 
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Santa Cruz Skateboard for sale.
On 5/2/2015 Tapas Guha wrote in from United States  (76.21.nnn.nnn)

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/spo/5007301407.html

 
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WalMart/Kryptonics
On 1/14/2015 PSR wrote in from United States  (65.96.nnn.nnn)

DO NOT buy these boards!!!
I saw, today, a VERY SCARY board, 38" long, kicktail, fat-looking wheels of maybe urethane, and copies-of-Randal trucks; Those trucks were of a PLASTIC baseplate!! WARNING! DO NOT BUY this product! There's no way in hell this baseplate can be strong enough to withstand repeated, moderate-energy, turns! It's a FAILURE WAITING TO OCCUR!! Lawyers, please, take note, and be ready to dig into those DEEP Wal-Pockets!
I say this as someone who used (uses now, even) plastic skateboard trucks on my race board(s), but those I use are Seismics, made with care, precision and of engineering that allows for their use 20 years after I purchased them. This is NOT the case with these foolish attempts at a 'longboard' by Kryptonics. They simply copied a well-known truck design, one originally made in Aluminum, and cast it in part in plastic. There are no plastics that have the strength of the original metal design, so this cost-cutting rip-off is a mechanical failure awaiting a place to happen. I don't wish any skater harm, so I'm putting a truthful warning out here. Maybe, after these FAIL at 25 mph under some poor kid's feet, and the Ambulance chasers look for the FOOLS that sold this crap, maybe, then, we'll see safer boards in the common marketplace. For now, BUY ONLY FROM SKATESHOPS THAT SELL QUALITY (Preferably, Made-in-USA)PRODUCTS!

I'm deeply disappointed in Kryptonics, which once WAS a good company offering quality skateboard gear. They ought to be ashamed of what they've become.

 
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selling a complete skateboard
On 6/4/2014 katie tuffin wrote in from (172.56.nnn.nnn)

I have a fairly new Mike Carroll signature limited edition Girl board. Little scratches. Nothing major. Has Bones wheels(54) and thunder trucks. Grizzly griptape. Griptape is completely fine. Its a hello kitty deck but its also limited edition. Can't get this deck anywhere anymore. Bought it originally for $220 looking to get at least $180-200 out of it. Its a good board. If you're interested email me katietuffin1997@outlook.com or call my cell at 5156570519

 
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Complete Longboards
On 7/23/2012 AllegroBoardsports.com wrote in from United States  (68.3.nnn.nnn)

Shop a huge selection of street board skateboards, longboards, and retro boards from AllegroBoardsports.com
Free shipping on orders over $50.00 offer ends midnight Monday
Use code FREE50 at checkout

 
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Vintage Board
On 5/13/2012 Tyler wrote in from United States  (76.217.nnn.nnn)

Hi I have a Super Surfer Big Banana skate board can anyone tell me what it is and what it maybe worth.

Thanks

Email me at Famousjt@gmail.com

 
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Complete Longboards
On 2/20/2012 longboardsk8 wrote in from United States  (76.173.nnn.nnn)

Found some excellent complete longboards here:

http://shop.longboardsco.com/Complete-Longboards-Skateboards-s/1904.htm

 
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looking for a new board
On 11/17/2009 terik11 wrote in from (72.214.nnn.nnn)

Hey ,IF you havn't already, I have a DH board I wil sell ya. It's been ridden 5 times maybe. I have other boards I like better. It's a LY downhill EVO with Randall 180's and these giant speed vents. the trucks cost me 60 for both and the wheels where 100 bucks. I won the deck. I will sell it for that cost plus shipping if ya want it. Email me at terik11@man.com My name is Trish. Thanks.

 
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looking for a new board
On 11/9/2009 2ndboard wrote in from (67.175.nnn.nnn)

I'm looking for a new longboard, preferably a DH Race or Evo tree. I'm new(2ndboard),old, relatively fat and not good but I want it for my dogs to get exercise. I live on flat land. I want to spend no more than 350. Where is the best place to purchase from price wise and with quick shipping? Also what kind of complete set up trucks and wheels?

 
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Looking for FAt City Racing Sticker
On 10/6/2009 d. allgeier wrote in from (74.103.nnn.nnn)

Does anyone know where I can get an oval black and yellow "Fat City Racing" Sticker? I need one for my G&S Henry Hester Deck. CAn anyone help me out??

 
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dillon
On 5/3/2009 tyler wrote in from United States  (69.115.nnn.nnn)

i would have to say the best sector nine slide board is the sector nine striped, but i would defiantly get something other than the stock wheels.And i also like gravity fullfinger gloves

 
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HELP!
On 2/5/2009 Dillon wrote in from United States  (98.170.nnn.nnn)

I live in florida, so there aren't many hills, but the few we have, I want to get into sliding. I love S9 and want one of their boards. Do you know the best one for sliding? Also, what are the best sliding gloves? Thanks soo much!

 
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help please
On 10/26/2008 nano wrote in from United States  (76.205.nnn.nnn)

im trying to get into downhill boarding and sliding, but am not sure what would be good choices for wheels, decks, and trucks so that i could do both.
please help me out.

 
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Board test on national TV in UK
On 10/20/2008 Paul wrote in from United Kingdom  (82.2.nnn.nnn)

Just saw the Gadget show top 5 skateboards test.

1st Loaded Dervish Longboard
2nd Pavel Roadster Slalom Board
3rd Lush Kilima Longboard



Thanks to Rob for joining me on the Gadget show testing team.

Trying out all the boards was fun.

The Roadster was versatile, as we rode vert
on it as well as being fastest thru the cones

Having some slalom on prime time TV may get some people skating!

Here is the link on the Gadget show, almost a 3 minute segment :-)

Click here for link

Slalom on National TV


A closer look

 
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Seismic Completes
On 10/14/2008 Jake in Monterey wrote in from United States  (75.244.nnn.nnn)

what's up everybody. I'm just getting back into this after 2 years off (no hills in Houston; after growing up in San Diego = mad skating depression). i'm not a pool/park rider (for now :-) mostly looking to do some surfy soulriding/mellow carving sessions.anyways, I was checking out the seismic site and I saw that they have some completes...
1)has anyone rode the "meg" (30") or the "cameron" (42")? they look sweet but i couldn't find any search results.
2)is 'bat' tail just the shape or is this designed for something specific?
3)i'm 6'1" 215. I don't mind some flex (i learned on an S9 pin) in case that's gonna put some spin on things.
I've never ridden seismics (rIIs only) huge difference (for the same style riding as above) I've read you can get them pretty surfy with lighter springs, but i'm not 185...

 
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umbrellas cause drag
On 7/8/2008 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.68.nnn.nnn)

Bas, I'd like to toss in two bits of addenda to Brett's excellent suggestion;
With trucks, look for the ability to switch out the axles. This will alow you to install stainless steel axles, which will inhibit rust at the bearings (I spray Silicon into my bearings, btw, to reduce oxidation effects). Radikal, GOG, and Airflow slalom trucks have this axle-switching feature, as do a few true DH trucks that I can't (yet) afford. BTW, oiling the axles, pivots, and kingpins with a 'white' petrol oil is a good thing to do to the metal-meets-plastic bits on trucks that're submerged in the occasional puddle. BTW, I'm from Vermont, and only N.Ireland and the Olpymics in Washington have more rainy days, and I've luged a few hundred miles by now in damp conditions.

Grooves in wheels are actually pretty easy to do, just stuff burnt-out, non-rolling bearings into the wheel, chuck it onto an 8mm bolt in a hand-held drill (though a drill-press is better), and apply a tri-angular-blade bastard file to the running surface of the wheel. If you're running a wider wheel, consider 3 grooves, not just 2. Once the wheel is chucked an' spinning, a magic-marker can draw the 'line' for your files to follow. To check groove depth, use a toothpick + pencil(poked into the tread) against a ruler. That should keep you within a few thousandths of an inch if you're careful with the files + drill. Softer is better, urethane-wise, and narrower wheels like Kryptonic's Luge 85mm (40 mm wide) actually do better in wet conditions, less hydroplaning I'd guess. Strikers would be another 'skinny' wheel easily grooved in for rain (check out Subsonic's website, under 'future' designs for how those look).

IF you can find them, Exate's '8-Ball' wheel, using the M-80's core with a raduised Rubber Tire on it is The Wheel for rain! Smoke Bombs (flatter, wider profile) are a close second, though I didn't get onto the "Newer" Emotion half thane/half rubber wheels to compare with (they might just own the wet?) Rubber is slower, but has that wet-ness traction allure...

If no rubber, go with Soft (sub 80A), big (70mm+), and not too fat wheels, add grooves, slap in bearings that have plastic seal, and ride a deck that won't warp from inbueing moisture (poly coated? Bamboo? Fiberglass, Alum., or Teak!). Be sure to over-maintain this board at the axles, bushings, bearings, hardware and griptape, try to keep it dry between the big sessions.

 
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Rain Setup
On 7/8/2008 Brett H. Nelson wrote in from United States  (69.105.nnn.nnn)

Probably already hooked up by now but I had some advice on the rain setup...

Deck: A Rogers Bros cruiser deck. In addition to speedboards, they make smaller decks out of aluminum that would be impervious to water. I believe they have a European distributor, but you'll have to do some searching.

Trucks: Any truck will do. Don't get something with spherical bearings though.

Bearings: You have two options. Completely sealed which will keep most water and dirt out or go with something that is unshielded on one side so that you'll be able to clean it easily. Don't let your bearings sit around wet too long or they'll lock up.

Wheels: Try landyachtz, they make rain wheels. If you have the correct tools, making your own rain wheels by routing out grooves in them shouldn't bee too hard.

Good luck.

 
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yet more crap redux
On 4/22/2008 PaulW wrote in from United Kingdom  (80.254.nnn.nnn)

The youth riding flatspotted bearing condoms at the local park is probably half the weight of you and I and knows every kink and pump of the terrain he's riding!

That's not to devalue his contribution to this thread, of course...

If I had to rescue one board from the housefire it'd be the HH2, old 169s and 78a NoSkoolz. It's a go-anywhere, ride anything board.

 
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all seasons set up
On 12/17/2007 Bas de Vries wrote in from Netherlands  (81.175.nnn.nnn)

Hello people,

I would like to know whether you know completes (especially trucks, wheels, etc)
are available as rain/water resistant set ups.

I am going to use my board on levelled pavements in the Netherlands.

Hope you can help me

Kind regards,

Bas de Vries

 
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yet more crap
On 11/30/2007 Glenn wrote in from United Kingdom  (81.149.nnn.nnn)

small hard wheels slow?, I have real trouble working out where the sweet spot is. Sure, I see kids at my local park ripping on coned, flatspotted 50mm wheels and am sometimes amazed by the speed. My own kid rides 56mm rictas and these seem just as fast as his old 60mm skaterbuilts, at least they are on smooth crete and wood. I have just moved down to 59mm rainskates and they don't seem any slower than the BDS dubcons on my old park board.

As for length, I have a 33" pocket pistol with a 16" wheelbase, I still get asked occasionally "is that a longboard" where I have to point out that it's only 1.5" longer than a standard issue street deck...

Someone mentioned about that one perfect board and it's true, an old skater with a quiver will never be satisfied. I do however know which TWO boards i'd rescue from a fire and be relatively happy to be limited to. The park board I mentioned above and my slalom board (Pavel/Splitfire/ZigZags). The quaility of the setup, it's pumpabilty and speed make it out cruise any of my longboards. Maybe wouldn't use it to bomb hills but then, I wouldn't bomb hills anyway :-)

The really cool thing is that these two boards 'clip together', the wheels of the park board just about fit (with a little deck flex) between the wheels on the slalom board. Fits great in the trunk :-)

 
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More crap, revisited
On 11/5/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.68.nnn.nnn)

Thanks Steve, as I did come down heavy on the side of Longboards; Because the Generic Alternative tends towards suckage... My rant was simply to meant awaken the disparrity between Hype and what's out there. I would've filled in all the shades of grey, but it would confuse a novice... ;-)

I'm seeing Progression in Longboards that does encourage FLOW, and for so many, long years, it's been the opposite in NewSchoolLand, but even with the focus on tech flips, the kids (better ones anyway) have been pushing for more speed. flow, combinations. It's discouraging at times, because the end result is apparent (though FAR from makeable!) to an Oldschooler like myself. Still, a good 18 years ago, a guy I used to skate with (along Akeena Pickett and Ian Spiro), Chris Yetz, he said that it's All a cyclical progression, where the 'new trick, gets figured, goes Bigger, gets faster/and/or combined, becomes 'the Standard', whereupon the Next Level occurs, and it starts back up again. You could SEE this thru the late 70's well into the mid-90's, then it just, um, paused, got stagnant, didn't go as big, or get much more than some polish and shine.... I DO BLAME the HYPE Machine for this, but a neat thing occurred concurrently; Old School and Longboarding filled in the void. If you look at the "Yetz" progression model as a Pendulum, the pendulum got too stagnant, but got a big Kick In the Ass from some old farts (and dudes like Brad Edwards!), and got to swinging the Other Way. Suddenly, Skating is Alive with OPTIONS again, has flow, speed, and a HUGE reservoir of tricks, some older than the practitioners age, doubled. The result has been a new awareness, and a gain in skaters willing to express themselves with the use of some speed and flow. Not that I'm against tricks, I'm not; but balance has SO MANY possible outcomes, why LIMIT YOURSELF?! I'll never know why the limitations became popular, even if it's explained to me; My Era had no such baggage; We skated until the Lawyers pushed us ouytof the skateparks and onto the streets, which is, after all, where we started, so just avoid the Cops, and you're good-to-go. Popularity is for those who slowed down long enough to be caught on camera (which, btw, is incriminating evidence, so do this Rarely). BTW, a good friend, a Mr. Brogdale, stopped by this weekend, and wanted to know If I had any use for his Downhilling board: I told him to keep it, but offerred more reasonable all-around 65mm wheels for it. The board he did 58 mph on is an old Santa Cruz Roskopp II with Motobuilts and DirtClods on it. Versatility is in the mind of the skater...

 
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big5
On 11/5/2007 hc wrote in from United States  (71.198.nnn.nnn)

visited my local big5 recently,
(big5 is a west coast sporting goods chain)

seems like they have more longboards in stock (lower quality/price)
saw a carver complete with CX front for around $90...

hey PSR, I looked at the 'city crusher' on SOH
didn't see any wedge/dewedge action going on...

 
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