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drafting
On 11/29/2000 meila wrote in from (24.65.nnn.nnn)

strap on yourself to your skateboard with some inner tubes from your gravity bike, put on your speed suit and super helmet (good bearings too!), find a friend with not only a plane but a plane equipped with an old disarmed missile, jump out of the plane holding on to the back of the missile and draft it 'till terminal velocity!!!!!! whooooooooooooooaaah!

tee hee!

later

 
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No is Right
On 11/29/2000 Kurt wrote in from (63.232.nnn.nnn)

Chris, I guess the next catagory for the book would be "Fastest on a skateboard when falling from the sky"

 
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No Means No
On 11/28/2000 Chris Chaput wrote in from (63.168.nnn.nnn)

No. How many times do I have to say it? No. It means nothing to me. I don't care how you label it, how many books you publish it in. In means nothing in MY book. If a land speed record on a skateboard is not a gravity record then it means nothing to me. It would only mean something to someone who cares about how big, how wide, how tall, how fast and how well designed a drafting vehicle can be made because it certainly doesn't reflect any great achievement on behalf of the stuntman/skater. How well the driver of the drafting vehicle and the rider can work together when the towing and drafting occurs may be of interest to some, just not to me. Interesting to watch? Sure. Different? Absolutely. Exciting? Maybe. Meaningful? Please.

You qualified 16.53 seconds behind the 5th place qualifier in Australia. You say that you are "in oz racing the real thing", are you sure you don't mean "chasing" the real thing? Maybe a pace car would help.

 
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several
On 11/28/2000 jon wrote in from (203.19.nnn.nnn)

mr chaput, i dont make the rules , guinness do, so speak to Norris Mcwhirter. At present the rules are as i stated, i have checked.Drafting is allowed. it is not a GRAVITY record, it is a speed record do the words GUINNESS WORLD SPEED RECORD mean anything to you? if you dont like it you know what to do......
sorry i havnt answered sooner but i am in oz racing the real thing
wake up and smell the goat s**t

 
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Leathers specific for Luge or speedboarding
On 11/28/2000 John Gilmour wrote in from (64.197.nnn.nnn)

Which ones should I get and they should have body armor as an option. I heard Bates made luge specific leathers. Is this true and if so are they any good? Who makes leathers for standup? What should I expect to pay?

 
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You're not alone
On 11/28/2000 Chris Chaput wrote in from (63.168.nnn.nnn)

Nick, about 90% of all speedboarders use motorcylce leathers due to their availability. Their protection is more than adequate for speedboarding at the cost of aerodynamics and speed. You won't need that velcro to apply sliding plastic pucks on your calves, the bent overpadded elbows and rough back and waist are undesireable, HOWEVER, as a newcomer we are not talking about getting you to the finish line first, just down the hill safely. Slower, overpadded leathers are fine for this. Get a one-piece, the two-piece design will expose that part of your body to the asphalt. The best helmet for speed (mine), is the worst helmet for beginners. They are too fast and don't offer enough visibity. Go with anything protective that gives you the RIGHT KIND of visibility. Remember, you are bent over forward trying to look up through your eyebrows when in a good tuck. A streetluge/wedge helmet is exactly the opposite. Start with Randal Downhill trucks if you can, you won't be testing the durability of the leathers as much ;-)

Try Land Luge Las Vegas for cheap leathers at: http://www.LLLV.com". They had some good prices last time I checked.

When you start racing and need more speed, custom is the only way to go. You'll want leathers that use stretchy kevlar in key areas to pull the leather "snug" to your body in all the right places. Until then, play it safe for whatever you can get inexpensively.

 
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Leathers
On 11/28/2000 Nick wrote in from (203.96.nnn.nnn)

I,m hoping someone can offer me some advice here. I have been skateboarding for quite some time, but have only recently developed an interest in speedboarding. In order to feel confident to start pushing my current limits( as well as stay alive) I want to purchase some leathers and a decent helmet, but don,t know much about these. I don,t have much money so I only have one chance to make the correct purchase. Could anyone offer me any advice/tips on what to look for in choosing leathers and a helmet. Some second hand shops here offer motercycle leathers and helmets, but the choices are many and I want to make sure I purchase the right sort,(fit, flexibility, protection, vision, weight etc)
I don,t know anything about motercycles so this is all new to me. Any pointers would be much appriecated.

 
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Casper@dhx.Bom
On 11/28/2000 Chris Chaput wrote in from (63.168.nnn.nnn)

Kludy, Do you believe in ghosts? Will you get out in front again after the two hairpins like at Barrett Junction? Just remember Captain America, you can't kill a ghost when he's already dead. If you hear something howling in your helmet, it could just be the wind, what else could it be? Are you going look back and see what it is? Will you just look straight ahead and ignore it? You know he's back there somewhere, are you safe? How much of a lead is safe? Should you get behind him this time and make a late pass? Has he gotten faster in the technical turns by practicing at GMR in off season? Is he a friendly ghost? Does that damn speedsuit make a difference? How much room is there at the bottom of the hill? This time he's dead meat. You see the finish line. You hear something. You see something white in the corner of your eye...

...EEERHOWWWGH..AAHH!!!

Rick honey, wake up. Help me with the kids. Were you having a bad dream?

 
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Kludy + DHX
On 11/28/2000 mikez wrote in from (196.2.nnn.nnn)

Believe me kludy you have made the right right choice

 
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CAPT. AMERICA WILL GO TO DHX
On 11/27/2000 KLUDY wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

Thanks guys , I feel the best in the world will be at this event and I WILL GO ! And kick some butt along the way.You guys helped with the best race to go to thanks. Sometimes you have to dicide , fun or fame. I decided FUN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S . SEE YOU GUYS IN SA

 
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kludy
On 11/27/2000 mikez wrote in from (196.2.nnn.nnn)

Go to Cape Town (DHX) it is going to be awsome just go on to the dhx website and look at the names on it. THere is going to be a phat wad of cash for the winner. The flights have been cheapened for the competitors and accomadation is also cheapened. The rand is worth very little to the dollar with there being 8 rand to one dollar. It costs just under half a dollar for a litre of petrol. The waves cook very often. The people are friendly and it is set in the cape fold mountains so there are many many hills to skate on

 
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Results OZZ
On 11/27/2000 Simon Gunning wrote in from (212.161.nnn.nnn)

Results OZZ Jonny X Qualifies 6th in field of 12
16.3sec behind Hardwick 5th, Freeman 4th,
Orton 3rd, Oberholzer 2nd, Van bomell 1st

Keep up to date at BADASS

www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/badass1

 
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Kludy
On 11/26/2000 Chris Chaput wrote in from (63.168.nnn.nnn)

Rick (Ludy), I'm going to South Africa and I hear it's a good hill but I can't give you any sound advice without knowing more about Switzerland. If the EDI hill is more technical and is a qualifier for the X-Games, that sounds like a win-win for you. You were tearing it up at GMR the other day. Barrett Junction and DHX have only two hairpins apiece and that gives guys like me (less technical) a chance to pass late. I'm not trying to talk you out of South Africa, I want to see you at both. Work hard on sponsorship. Tell them that you'd be willing to pay for one race, if they'd be willing to pay for the other and that you will race them in BOTH. A two for one Kludy deal is pretty hard to pass up! You've got a friend here if you need references.

 
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Alva Racing
On 11/26/2000 Chris Chaput wrote in from (63.168.nnn.nnn)

Winston, You can see Tony on that Logan Earh Ski in the 1976 slalom finals against Henry Hester at the following site. They are Quicktime files and some are huge but you'll love it. The opening scene in "Part 1" is of me one my head 24 years ago! Check out: http://www.southern.com/BURNINGFLAGS/tony_alva.html

 
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Your travel dollar
On 11/26/2000 Hamm wrote in from (63.27.nnn.nnn)

Kludy,

Go to South Africa!!!! Its insane. 4 chicks to every guys, crazy night clubs, great waves. As far as which race offers more prestige, I don't know. But I'd go to S.Africa.

Dave

 
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money and speedboarding
On 11/26/2000 KLUDY wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

Biker told me the day I got my 1th speedboard, this is a money sport , I thougth that the money was to buy a skateboard, leathers , and a helmet. I did that now that I feel that I can race with the best they go overseas.I dreamed as a kid to race the best in the world and now that I have a shot I am as a roofer with 4 kids FINDING IT harder and harder to get to the overseas races. I train very hard and would love to be able to ride just for one year and train harder. Need help ! Should I go to SA FOR RED BULL OR GO TO E.D.I. SWISS RACE TO BE IN THE GRAVITY GAMES. WHERE will the world class talet be because I have just one shot overseas and I would like to make it count.

 
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New Zealand
On 11/26/2000 Jimi wrote in from (203.96.nnn.nnn)

You guys all seem to be friends and ride together. Thats great, I wish I could come too. I live in Auckland, New Zealand. I can't find anyone to ride with and I'm sick of riding on my own. I am an average rider whos been about 50mph. If anyone lives here or comes to New Zealand on a holiday drop me a line, I know some killer hills.

***I don't suffer from insanity,
I enjoy every minute of it.***

 
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ESCAPE VELOCITY pt.2
On 11/25/2000 WINSTON T.GRANT wrote in from (209.240.nnn.nnn)

First off,clarifications are in order.That's A-L-V-A"as in T-O-N-Y,'cause at the time I decided to SERIOUSLY bust out the speed,my only guide to true skating technology and technique was Skateboarder Magazine(pre-politics,pre-
sellout)and the WHO'S HOT section was my measuring stick.I read that Alva ran slalom on a
wood,no flex deck and immediately after trying it,concluded that this was some cruel-ass joke that LOGAN had come up with to get people to buy ten-pound decks.Suffice to say,I WENT TO A FLEX
DECK.a year later,I was bigger and MUCH stronger,and Henry Hester came to Spokane and did a demo:CHANGED EVERYTHING!!to see pump technique from one of the mainstays of the then-
powerhouse G&S team was a revelation,and even though my legs were burning for a week afterward,I was determined to GET THIS,because for the first time,I actually got to SEE HOW IT
WAS DONE, and after that,my skating took on a whole different character:along with pumping (which I could now do on ANY deck,thank you very
much,Henry)I threw in all kinds of overtly kinetic moves:railgrabs,tailslide stops,slides,
etc.I realized when I skated with the boyz,I was always having to stop and wait for them to catch up.Instead of claiming"rad dog X"status,and copping an attitude,I shared my moves,and ADVANCED THE GROUP,because in my town,the better you got,the more terrain opened up to you,and if people who could hang went along,EVERYONE had more fun.The real key to this whole thing is,
and always will be FUN,and as soon as it stops being that,and starts turning into POLITICS(which is NOT fun,BTW;i looked it up)
I'm OUT.REMEMBER WHY YOU STARTED THIS.I DO.
"WHY? BECAUSE IT MAKES ME HAPPY TO GO AS FAST AS A CAR WITH NOTHING POWERING ME BUT WILL,THAT'S WHY."

 
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The Good Times
On 11/25/2000 Chris Chaput wrote in from (63.168.nnn.nnn)

Kanoa, These are the good times, right here, right now. When I was a younger man, I thought that happiness was an event, like becoming the world champion. I have since learned that happiness is a journey and to appreciate it as it unfolds. There will always be politics and lively debate in sport because competition brings out the best and worst of us, and there will always be a gap between what the racers collectively want, what racers individually want, what manufacturers and sponsors want, what race organizers and the media want and what spectators want. Many well intentioned people are doing what they can to help promote our sport without really understanding the "big picture". If I could look into my crystal ball and tell you exactly what we should be doing right now I would, but that doesn't mean that everyone else would jump on board if it meant leaving their comfort zone in the name of progress. In this regard I hope to be a kind of "Pied Piper" of sorts, doing the best I can to quench my own thirst and then to bring the proverbial horse to water. Nothing awakens the masses like results, and so far, so good.

Although technical riding skills are required for respect among the riders themselves, the showcase for our talents is usually a shorter, nontechnical, TV friendly course. It is likely that only hundreds of people can agree on who the best technical rider in the world is, and yet millions of people only know who takes the gold medal in televised events. Racers who understand this are more likely to train and equip themselves accordingly, and others will just stand on the side of the road and complain. Life isn't fair, cheaters sometime prosper, but the responsiblity of being prepared always falls directly on the shoulders of the individual.

I have heard LUCK defined as "when opportunity meets preparedness". I believe this to be true. If I ever hear someone say that I was lucky, I take it as a compliment. As a matter of fact, anytime I hear my name, good or bad, I take it as a compliment. It's when no one is saying anything about me that I have something to worry about. Don't worry about offending me, even if you really mean to. It usually only serves to humor me or to inspire me, depending.

Back on the subject of the good times, check out this picture of last week's GMR session for Adrenaline TV. Check out: http://www.chrischaput.com/speedboarding/the_gang.jpg and tell me these aren't the good times!

Clockwise from the top are Mark Golter, George Orton, Gary Hardwick, Darryl Freeman, Chris Chaput, Rick Kludy, Casey Kindred, Cliff Coleman, Dave Rogers and John Rogers. Sean Mallard, Bob Pereyra and others luged and taped.

 
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hill in OSZ
On 11/25/2000 Simon Gunning wrote in from (213.108.nnn.nnn)

I spoke to Jon warburton on the phone yesterday, he has just got to OSZ and tells me that the hill was picked by a luge racer and has never been riden stand-up, we will have to see what the footage is like, I feel sorry for some of the riders who have paid their tickets to get out there to a hill no one has skated standup on, check out the BADASS web site for updates
www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/badass1/

Simon Gunning

 
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Kanoa Surf Shop
On 11/25/2000 Kanoa wrote in from (206.133.nnn.nnn)

Hey Chris don't forget about those good times, I picked up the very name from that very special place that my parents and I lived down the street from in PV, many don't know or remember it. One of my greatest disappointments was going back there when I was older to find out that they no longer exsisted. What ever really happened to them?
No Buck Rogers intended just as a kid that thought Kanoa Surf was very special, in place and time.

 
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Good honest debate
On 11/25/2000 STEVIEB. wrote in from (62.7.nnn.nnn)

As a casual observer of this & the other NCDSA pages I,ve noticed the decline from good honest debate & advice into Bitchin,name calling & slander. Is it the hot sun or the heat of competition getting to you guys? Surely we all do this for fun first with competition part of that fun. Skateboards are basicly very low-tech and the opportunity to exploit every advantage aerodynamic,low friction bearings,composite materials whatever should be welcomed by both competitors & ruling bodies EDI etc.Chris C,s suit/helmet seems fine to me as will the first carbonfire luges, If the sole purpose is to see who the fastest guy is then why not race identical set ups from a corperate sponsour?Its the individual personal approach to getting down the hill or through the cones fastest that makes it interesting.
TV could be the making of this sport:Its from seeing you guys compete that i,ve got back on my boards & hopefully will race next summer,but dont let money or politics spoil it!! next thing you know it'll be drug tests & life time bans.

 
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RE, escape veloity
On 11/25/2000 Kanoa wrote in from (206.133.nnn.nnn)

Sorry that I may offend some, but the only reason I right some of this stuff I do, is for the pure responce of those that write in on this sport esp the ones with rocket science ideas. Don't always think that it's so serious. I purely ride for the fun of it myself, never have entered a contest and never will, I have broke 50 maybe only a few times myself, the first time was on a hobie super surfer with road rider 4s and axel sleaves on my sure grip trucks (if you can remember those) not to mention yearn for speed sparks to boot, still to this day there is nothing like a quite empty road waiting for the board. Do your really think I'm going to strap a jet pack. To many advances and new riders will eventually be beating our speeds, technique and skills with even ungrateful attitudes after building off ours, it's the nature of the skateboarders attitude and yearn for individualness. I love the sport and apreciate all their skills and advances either way, nor am I looking or expecting a pat on the back. I will someday love it when someone finally does break 100+ by what ever means because just as you, me or ? had the balls to ride an Alva or Hobie at our speed. I'm sure the older gen said we were knockle heads so will the next.
We were all rebs at our time, anyone that gets on a skateboard has got to expect that or they will never be at peace the day they retire from the sport what ever age that may be!

 
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Buying yourself a sport
On 11/25/2000 Herbn wrote in from (216.107.nnn.nnn)

Anybody that thinks Chris bought himself into speed skating is exagerating at best,rich people buy themselves or their kids a college education by donating a building,a certain Jersey businessman/politician bought himself into office by out spending his rivals by a tremendous margin, millions of dollars are involvedWhen you "buy yourself" into something more than a couple thousand dollars worth of helmets,leathers,and skateboard parts are involved,when someone builds a really good vert ramp for their kid (or themselves)and lets say they go to woodward to train are they buying themselves a pro career? Should Tony Hawk,be worried?Chaput is into downhill,and he needs to do well,puts his mind into it,so what? One last thing rules shouldn't stand in the way of technology.

 
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Cape Town
On 11/25/2000 Craig wrote in from (196.34.nnn.nnn)

Riding skill will definately be exhibited in SA. You will not do well unless you're good. The course has fast sections, but is more about being clever and skilled.

I probably won't be riding comp-11's, i'll have pretty cheap bearings, no speed suit(i don't think they're allowed), no aero helmet, and i'll probably use an exkate turbo/krypto 76mm combo (=speed+stick). I still think i can kick butt. I totally believe skill and confidence will carry me on this course.

Chris C...i didn't see your name on the riders list??


 
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