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On 11/30/2001 Bob Loftin wrote in from (192.73.nnn.nnn)

Hidden in the Russ Howell magazine scans are some cool freestyle items, from back before the magazines turned to poop...

http://www.ncdsa.com/Russ_Howell_CDROM/SKATING/Magazine%20Pages/Skateboarder-1980-V6N8-March-Page037.jpg


http://www.ncdsa.com/Russ_Howell_CDROM/SKATING/Magazine%20Pages/Skateboarder-1980-V6N8-March-Page047.jpg


http://www.ncdsa.com/Russ_Howell_CDROM/SKATING/Magazine%20Pages/Skateboarder-1980-V6N8-March-Page048.jpg

 
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On 11/29/2001 Stevie B wrote in from (213.122.nnn.nnn)

SCABS
I came across this site recently it features some of the florida guys you mention great pics & videos from late70,s early 80's I beleive it belongs to the Sam Myhre but the name that struck me was Shawn Peddie I had forgotten how good he was
http://www.catchisam.com/Index.html

 
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On 11/28/2001 EG wrote in from (66.74.nnn.nnn)

OOPS:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1040683837&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=1007602945&indexURL=0&rd=1

 
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On 11/28/2001 EG wrote in from (66.74.nnn.nnn)

Just listed on ebay a rare Hobie Skitch Hitchcock model foam/fibreglass skateboard.

 
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On 11/28/2001 Jimi wrote in from (210.55.nnn.nnn)

hc, any chance on posting your video of the slopestyle so the rest of the world could have a look?

 
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On 11/28/2001 Lynn Cooper wrote in from (63.36.nnn.nnn)

I've been reading your comments about the Slopestyle event. I wish I could have attended the contest. It sounds like it was awesome! Anyways, this weekend is the "Beast of the East" 2001 PRO/AM Freestyle championship event, held in Johnson City, New York. In the last year, we have held Pro Freestyle contests in San Francisco, New Jersey, Southern California and now New York. Freestyle has been really taking off this year! This should be the biggest event thus far. I'm really looking forward to competing and I'm thrilled to hear all your comments about style. My strategy will be to skate smooth and demonstrate a soulful, stylish routine. I'll still throw in some technical tricks, however tricks are not my main focus. This is what makes Freestyle so fun for me!

Hope some of you can make it out to the contest!

 
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On 11/27/2001 hc wrote in from (207.212.nnn.nnn)

thx to all who answered my kickflip q's.

I am still buzzed from la costa, this was definitely more than just a slalom contest, it was a fun fest for all form of downhill riding, saw sliding, slopstyle, flatland, soul carving,... super stoked on getting the slopestyle on tape. The practice course on the right lane was sweet, sometimes, it was more fun watching and participating in the practice course than the race itself. I get such a kick just watching Burnquist bombing the hill on a new school board in a drop stance!

my next question is how are freestyle event judged? (also slopestyle, vert, street, etc). From reading ILB, Hester mentioned that he and alva came up with the judging system back in the 70's that is still used today.

 
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On 11/27/2001 slopestyle wrote in from (64.171.nnn.nnn)

What I liked best about the slope style is mixing up of flow and tricks. Tricks by themselves don't do much for me but how they are connected and pulled off is.
Brad's jump drop in that flowed into a walk to the nose with a one footed nose carve was great. Chaput's effortless nose wheelie was too. John O' Shei's walking the nose and back was smooth and styling. Brad's jump over the guard rail with 180 piroette was so smooth, it didn't look like a trick, he landed it on the nose and and then spun the deck into a nose bs 180.

Modern street skating is very angular. Do this trick then we go over there and do a trick, then we go over there and do a trick.....the tricks are OK, they just don't land them stylishly or flow them into something else. 80's freestyle was the same thing for me. It seemed like they were having a contest to do the most tricks per second. While they were technical they lacked style.

I wish we had the time at La Costa to let each guy take 3 or 4 runs. I think we would have seen some incredible style if the guys didn't feel like they had to get everything into one run.
We obviously need to do some more longboard style contests.

 
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On 11/27/2001 Bob Loftin wrote in from (192.73.nnn.nnn)

Regarding Adam's "but I would have liked to see more flow"...

As a someone who never makes it out for anything, I agree with Adam that in future slope style type events, flow should be the highest rated factor. That's the whole point of being on a longboard, I think.

On those video clips, I thought Brad's backside slide to fakie was really smooth and cool. And Chaput is just so sure footed on his board walking stuff. Amazing. He amazed me 25 years ago, and he amazes me today.

 
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On 11/27/2001 Bob Loftin wrote in from (192.73.nnn.nnn)

As you may know, I'm having bandwidth problems. However, I'm hoping to find one or two longboard companies that would be willing to host my video and images for the longboard tips, and then I'll put them back up, plus some new ones.

One reason I'm so interested in the SlopeStyle riding is that a lot of my favorite longboarding ditch spots are being destroyed or rendered unskateable. However, my new street is a nice, gradual downhill with smooth asphalt surface.

 
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On 11/27/2001 Adam wrote in from (64.164.nnn.nnn)

As one of the 5 judges at the LC Open who scored the slope style event, I would have liked to see more pure carving and less trickery. The tricks were clever, and some had a high degree of difficulty, but I would have liked to see more flow.

 
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On 11/27/2001 Glen wrote in from (64.171.nnn.nnn)

Well then Bob, since you like longboarding

when will you have more longboard tricks on your web page? You had a bunch for a while there. They were great. I've been asking Brad Edwards if he can do the 360 layback, he said he does them on vert. Yow!

The newer tricks don't translate well.

I tried for hours to do last weeks "360 Casper fingerflip to Primo tail slide flying Statue of Liberty" but on an 57" Ed Econ. bank rider it's a bit hard.

 
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On 11/27/2001 Bob Loftin wrote in from (192.73.nnn.nnn)

tee hee hee...

I'm taking writing lessons from Grumpy Ol' Bastard.

Between me and you longboarders, if I didn't already know all these freestyle tricks, I would only be riding longboards. I've been daydreaming all day about that slopestyle thing at La Costa. Downhill freestyle. So cool.

 
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On 11/27/2001 Adam wrote in from (64.164.nnn.nnn)

"As street skating took over, and civilization fell into ruin, young primates began to lose their linguistic and logical thinking skills. The term "manual" came to be used for any wheelie manuver."

I love it!

 
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On 11/27/2001 Glen wrote in from (64.171.nnn.nnn)

thanks Bob, I think this "manual" thing could be worse than Anthrax and needs to be stopped.

 
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On 11/27/2001 Bob wrote in from (192.73.nnn.nnn)

Here's my take on the "manual".

In the late 1980s, I used to hear a frontside roll-out/in in which you hold the wheelie (on vert or a mini ramp) called a "manual". Not sure why they called 'em that, but with a pretty high degree of certainty, I can tell you that is where it came from.

As street skating and ollies became more popular, I remember people doing "ollie manuals" on the street. This usually involved ollieing up a curb, holding a frontside wheelie, and then coming back off the curb. Like so many moves, this was a street-based imitation of a vert trick.

As street skating took over, and civilization fell into ruin, young primates began to lose their linguistic and logical thinking skills. The term "manual" came to be used for any wheelie manuver.

I've also seen, in a skate mag, multiple 360s referred to as "manual spins" or "1-footed manual spins". yikes.

 
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On 11/27/2001 GLen wrote in from (64.171.nnn.nnn)

where did the "manual" get it's name?
I can possibly understand that when you Ollie into a wheelie you might want to call it something other than an "Ollie to wheelie", but why "manual" and when did it become the generic for all wheelies?
why didn't they call it an "automatic"?
aren't all tricks manual? I have yet to find a board that will do anything automatic, other than pitch me off, so everthing is manual, isn't that common knowledge?
Something needs to done about this.

BTW I have a nice video clip of Sturhann doing a "hang 5 nose manual" on a 57" Ed Econ.

 
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On 11/27/2001 msk wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

I don't know how many times I've been at a skatepark messing around doing freestyle, and after doing a few 360s I'll hear "Hey, that guy just did manual rotations", or "He just did a ...let's see... an 1,800..."

 
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On 11/27/2001 Duane wrote in from (209.218.nnn.nnn)

For you freestylers, an old Kevin Harris deck with lots of stuff just came up on eBay, comes with Tracker freestyle trucks and Gullwing fresstyle trucks and some wheels, board looks real good, with a Buy it Now of 130 pounds, not bad thats around 180 bucks. No, its not mine.

 
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On 11/26/2001 Chris S wrote in from (208.164.nnn.nnn)

Bob,

360 Body Varial, that's too funny. Reminds me of the time I was down at the beach practicing nose wheelies, when this kid says to his buddy, "Check it out man, that guy does a hang ten nose manual." Hmmm, maybe I should get the domain name on that one, www.hangtennosemanual.com

Chris

 
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On 11/26/2001 Bob Loftin wrote in from (192.73.nnn.nnn)

Hi,

I don't have the piroette up.

These days it would probably be called a "360 body varial", since piroette sounds a bit sissy. You just jump, do a 360 with your body, and land on the board. Harder than it sounds. People used to do oldschool piroette kickflips too.

If you do it while keeping the toes of one foot on the board (spinning on the toes and ball of your foot) its called a toe spin.

Bob

 
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On 11/26/2001 Glen wrote in from (64.171.nnn.nnn)

Jimi,
go to
www.bobstricktips.com
he has video clips and descriptions of most of the tricks.

 
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On 11/25/2001 jeremy cooper wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

what are pirouettes? if possible, e-mail me discription.

 
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On 11/25/2001 Jimi wrote in from (210.55.nnn.nnn)

I've seen this already stated before, but it went unanswered, so I'll bring it up again for me and the other guy. Being a young buck, I see the names of the tricks that you talk about, but have no idea what they actually look like. I think it would be fantastic if someone would post some descriptions or even pictures so we beginners could know what we are trying to emulate. Thank you.

 
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On 11/24/2001 jeremy cooper wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

the trinity foster is pretty cool. i got the 29' the shape took some getting used to but know i can get up to my old record, four 360's. now, off to work on my handstands...

 
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