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On 2/2/2002
lexx
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Dont think it exists. My discription was actually just what i could remember it being described as on bobstricktips.com. It was all a bit misty,lol. At least we got there in the end!
Scabs, I hear what ur saying, i was my self an anoying "newschooler" two or so years ago. Im only 16!lol! I cant remember 'back in the day' because i wasnt around. Ive been skating about 4/5 years now and its the love for the sport in all shapes and forms that drives me to learn about where it all came from. To me skating isnt just some thing that i do because its cool or what ever, it is about flow and about soul. I admire the people who got it all going because if it wasnt for them I dont know what i would be doing with my time. May be this belongs more in the soul carving formum?lol.. I supose if i can feel this way about skating then countless other newschoolers do, and skting will die out from the public eye yet again but there will be the ppl who keep it going. I hope i am one of those ppl.
So respect to the past, dont neglect the present, and dont forget to embrace the future.
lol, i think this defenetly should have been on the soul carving page;)
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On 2/2/2002
jeremy cooper
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Lexx, you said a bean plant was a cross between a boneless and a lien plant, then nate said it was a cross between a lien air and a boneless. i know what a lien air is, neil blender made it up, lien is just neil backwards, thats how he named it. so what is a lein plant, if i know what that is, i can pretty much figure it out from there...
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On 2/2/2002
jeremy cooper
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well nate, thats true. but recently i've heard people using the term "flatland" skating rather than freestyle. freestyle and flatland are pretty much the same but yet so different. if any of you have seen early stuff of ray barbee thats all he does is flatland street skating. he always did like every no comply variation there is and a lot of flatground lines and combos. and accually really late stuff of per welinder, like around 1990, he basicly did the same thing but with more freestyle based tricks rather than bonelesses and no complys. i was just curious about what a bean plant was because i've been doing bonelesses ever since i started skating and i felt dumb because i didn't know what it was,bonelesses are one of my favorite tricks, there so aggro.
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On 2/2/2002 nate
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a bean plant isnt exactly a freestyle trick neither is a boneless or an acid drop but who can say
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On 2/2/2002
Scabs
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lexx,
It is our duty to keep the soul of skateboarding alive. That means passing on what was the main driving force of skateboardings origins. Without the knowledge of the past, the flow will be lost ( check out any new schooler forun and everyone is either a player or a poser ). What`s that all about? We all started somewhere. And in the beginning it was about the flow, or soul, of skating.
From the frontpage of ncdsa (below tile)...
"Rediscovering the Soul of Skateboarding!"
Don`t under-estimate the newschooler kids. While they think they know it all (I did at that age), they are eager to learn new (or old) tricks...
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On 2/2/2002
lexx
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yey, i won:)...
Its true that not many ppl know about the great skaters of the past, alen, don brider (I think thats how u spell it) and so on. For many people where skating came from isnt important to them, they just want to read transworld and recite it like its the bible or some thing. To a lot of people skating is only what they see on tv, or on their playstations and in their magazines. It simply hasnt occured to many ppl that there is so much more to it. I know ppl who belief that rodney mullen is the only person who can do caspers and handstand flips and will actually swear by it, simply because they have seen endless videos of ppl jumping stair sets that its been hammered into them that there isnt any thing else to skating and if some one appears on a video doing some thing else they are a freak and naturally the only person able to break the mold...
Id say its them who are missing out, but what can we do about it? Not much, just accept it and carry on skating. If they are happy thinking mullen is the only person alive who can do caspers, or that primo is the only word to describe what u or i would call a rail flip, then let them carry on beliefing. Some times is better to not know ur in the matrix,lol..
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On 2/2/2002 nate
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not that this matters a whole lot,names of tricks are only immportant when you are trying to communicate them to someone else,but this is how i see it,a wheelie on flatground is just that,a wheelie.a manual is done from ollie or rollout on an obstcle,a bean plant is a boneless lean air. boneless:plant your foot as you grab your board and use your planted foot to get some air if your foot leaves the board that is an aciddrop.Primos are just railflips with a new name I think ,unless we are talking about primo slides
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On 2/1/2002 Scabs
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oops...mid 70`s not 40`s....DOH!!!
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On 2/1/2002
Scabs
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lexx,
You are right on with Ollie. Back in the mid 40`s, these was this place called Skateboard USA in Hollywood, FL. It had a concrete ramp that turned into a 2 cornered wall. Out of the second corner was the snake run. Opposite of the 2 cornered wall was a 1/4 round wall. Not what you would actually call a pool.
Anyhoos, under the ramp was a small bowl shaped area referred to as the "underbowl". This is where the groms hung out. I skated this area regularly with Alan and would spend hours practicing my move....a 360 hop. Alan learned it and took it to the vert. Kudos for him.
Not many popsicle boarders have a slightest clue on what a real "Ollie" is. Heck, I`ve never seen anyone pull it off but Alan. All flow and if you blinked your eyes, you missed it. Not to worry as he was perfection and rarely missed them so it would be seen again shortly.
Sure there are others that have tried the same move but never quite the same. His was pure art. And it changed skating like no other move recorded.
Another little known fact about Alan...he never went pro. He saw what all the hype was on the back end and wanted no part of it. He didn`t want the fun chased away buy dead presidents.
Tony Hawk is probably the mose famous skater in history but Alan`s move was the most influential to skating. You might say he`s the most famous of the infamous. And he`s still the same guy...a fla boy skater, and it`s all about the flow.
Brady Mitchell
Hollywood, FL since.....
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On 2/1/2002
lexx
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If you go back a few pages i remember bob L. saying some thing about how the word manual came about.. Some thing about vert?
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On 2/1/2002
Chris S
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Crunchy Knee,
There are certain words that I just can't bring myself to use to use to describe skateboarding, manual, xtreme, and sick. Well, maybe, sick. I hang out with a lot of short boarders at times. Nobody asked me about manual either. Then again, I probably wasn't skating a whole lot when they put it to a vote. I'm sure I'll end up taking the term wheelie to my grave.
Chris
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On 1/31/2002
Crunchy Knee
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But, isn't that a wheelie? Sometime during my life it went from wheelie to manual. No one asked me if the change was OK.
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On 1/31/2002
lexx
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Manual is the term used to describe riding on 2 wheels or if ur really clever on 1.
Ollie is a meathod of getting air out of a ramp, turning 180 and landing without using ur hands. Am i right?
And a bean plant is a cross between and lean plant and a boneless. I cant explain it, but bob shoud have all the tips back up so just go to www.bobstricktips.com and pretty soon u'll b able to find it there.
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On 1/29/2002
jeremy cooper
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question: what's a bean plant? i was reading an ed templeton interview in thrasher and he said that was one of the tricks he was doing back in '86.
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On 1/29/2002
Scabs
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"Whats a manual?" Anything done without a Motoboard.
Seriously though, I think it`s just your basic 360%
Better question is..."Whats an Ollie?"
After a few responses, I`ll clue y`all in...
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On 1/29/2002
Crunchy Knee
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what's a manual?
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On 1/29/2002
Chris S
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I seem to remember that the reason that you break kingpins is that you are overtightening the trucks. I had that problem myself on my Randals (I was using soft bushings and tightening the crap out of them). I assume that the bushings breaking is also a result of overtightening. I'd try sticking with the super hard bushings, just try to not tighten so much. I did that on my Randals and was able to get get the same stiffness and stop breaking kingpins. You might even be able to finder harder bushings than what you already have. I seem to remember that one of the new school companies makes 101a bushings. Another option might be to try to find a company that specializes in bolts. Bring in one of the kingpins and tell them that you keep breaking them. It's a standard size bolt, so they should have a hardened version that would stand up a bit better.
Good luck,
Chris
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On 1/28/2002 nate
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question to freestylers:I ride indys with extra hard bushings and my trucks super tight,the problem is my bushing are constantly breaking and im snapping kingpins alot,do soft bushings break as easy, will softer bushings feel wobbly? any suggestions?
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On 1/28/2002 nate
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what buttons do you have to push?
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On 1/28/2002 nate
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Im suprised you can spell those tricks
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On 1/28/2002
jd
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i can do a still to primo to 360 to manual to hardflip to land.
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On 1/27/2002
tasos
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freestyle is back (did it ever leave? -or did it just change?). we've got that and just added the high jump. thanks for all your input and responses. more info at streetrecords.com for the 2002 World Longboard Slalom Championships
shout out to volcom
hope to see you here!
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On 1/27/2002
lexx
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Chears steelwheelbob:)
Amjam sounds great fun. Good luck
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On 1/26/2002
steelwheelBob
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Claude,
I like your input on the expanded potential of the AmJam and I will be sure to incorporate your ideas into
the program. I know you have experience in organizing
youth activities and that will be of great value in the coming year as these small clusters of activity begin to
take shape.
Harold of Freestyle Country Clubs Inc. wants to see WFSA develop some points standings and series
structuring to resemble the formats that the other activities and organizations he deals with have in place.
I think for the present, there are not enough competitive
freestylers out there yet to put something like that in place today. I do feel that now is a good time to start developing contest series structures so that when
the competitive population grows to the size that would warrent that level of activity... we will be ready.
I think this is something you would have more experience in than I do, so if you have any thoughts or direction on this matter, I would like to hear from you.
Bob
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On 1/25/2002
steelwheelBob
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Greetings,
I was not guessing about the casper...Bobby 'casper'
Boyden invented it... period, no one else. Mullen was not even around. Bobby's nick name was Casper
because he was pale... like the friendly grost.
Claude, I'm glad you like the AmJam2002 concept.
I do have a vision of having that develop into bigger things. Skateboarding started in Paific Beach with
just a few guy's ( Jim Fitzpatrick and friends) in 1957,
by 1958 skateboarding was in every beach town from
Oregon to the Mexican border...however... there was not
a skateboard contest of any kind until the Makaha Skateboard Co's contest at Pier Av. Jr High School
in Hermosa Beach in 1964!...thats 7 years...what was everyone doing for those 7 years? Well... they were improving the equiptment, developing style and styles, hanging out together...skaters were just not ready for contests yet.
Thats where we are today, this is the 4th generation
of freestyle and 95% of todays freestylers, and there are
now thousands of them world wide ( thanks to thps3 and Globe Opinion) and new to
the activity...like in just the last few months.
So, the vast majority are not ready for contests.
What WFSA plans to do is walk them through the world of freestyle, one step at a time. First, lets find out how many there are, and where they are, and get to know each other, gather together in clusters and just skate
and learn from each other... thats what a Jam is.
So we now have AmJam2002 and WFSA is trying to
get as many kids to partcipate as possible. The hope is
that the various jams will produce a number of ongoing relationships among the participants that will continue
on their own to have jams on a somewhat regular
basis, like YoYo and the Germay freestylers do, and that this will produce a few people here and
there that will, in time, want to be active in producing and/or promoting local contests. Kids learn fast, I
believe by next year at this time, we will be able to
have more local beginner and intermediate contests.
By 2004, freestyle will be up to speed again, but way
larger if not more popular, than it ever was because it will be vastly more global.
Gotta go on the walk now....LOTS to do!
steelwheelBob
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