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moto luge
On 4/3/2006 hc wrote in from United States  (168.149.nnn.nnn)

hey chris, did you make that 3 wheel moto luge?
how does it ride? fun?

 
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Stupid vs. Speed
On 4/3/2006 Bud wrote in from United States  (68.57.nnn.nnn)


Who cares if something MAY look stupid or not...? The real question is: Does it work? And, if so, how much more speed is it good for?

I'd put the smart money on: Yes, and maybe pretty significant.

I can't see the leg skirt working as shown, though; as Chris noted below, I'd think it'd be far easier to work on each leg individually, so you're not a slave to the aero add-ons.

 
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Aero suit
On 4/3/2006 Pierre Gravel wrote in from Canada  (24.203.nnn.nnn)

It's actually something i'd like to try, i did not make it as a joke but a study in the possibilities, i do think the skirt looks stupid but it may work if the material used is not flapping too much. There should be an opening to allow pushing. The cone butt is actually a cover on the slide gloves.

JimZ used the neck at Maryhill last year, but he would have been better by arriving at the race on time...

 
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Satchmo sez
On 4/3/2006 Steve Collins wrote in from United States  (68.4.nnn.nnn)

If you got to ask, you'll never know.

 
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Harrys Dick shin
On 4/3/2006 dt wrote in from United States  (68.5.nnn.nnn)

so is boogie boarding the same as surfing?

 
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me and my aero, straighter than narrow
On 4/2/2006 sc wrote in from United States  (68.4.nnn.nnn)

Hey Pierre, I know you didn't intend it as such, but I think that aero illustration is totally bitchen. Not that I'm going to start skating that way anytime soon, but I bet people would love to watch that.

 
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them be fightin' words!
On 4/2/2006 dprice wrote in from United States  (67.101.nnn.nnn)

taking a que from the last post....

oh chappoott, if it was'nt for you, there would be no controversy in downhillin' and then it would'nt be any fun..i mean if you did'nt ride 6-wheeled luges @ dh races, what would we argue over?...the sport would die!

just remember that the price is right at danger bay 5 and i'm givin you a run for your money!

 
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Yeah!
On 3/31/2006 Bud wrote in from United States  (68.57.nnn.nnn)

See why we don't pick fights with Chris Chaput, boys...?

Techo Nerds: 2. Boys: 0.

I wonder how fast that blue fairingmobile would go...... hmmmmm..........

 
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Dick Shin Harry
On 3/31/2006 Chris Chaput wrote in from United States  (72.67.nnn.nnn)

Self-respecting skateboarders don't need a dictionary to tell them what a skateboard is. You like dictionaries? How about encyclopedias? There is a lot of info on skateboards at Wikipedia.org, but nothing about the number of wheels. They also don't talk about all of the various inline skates out there, and there are a number of different inline skates (2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 wheels).

These are all inline skates, even though the dictionary doesn't say so. And why wouldn't they be? They are all ridden the same way. If you changed the way that you rode them, like lean-steering quad skates, then they're called something else. If you take inline wheels, and ride them on a platform but steer using handlebars, it's called a scooter. Take the boot off of a quad skate, and it's a skateboard (a tiny lame skateboard, but a skateboard none the less). Spread apart the trucks a little, it's a mini (skateboard). Move them further apart and it's a regular skateboard. Move them out more, it's a long skateboard (longboard for short). Add wheels, it's a X wheel skateboard. You stand on a platform and lean to steer. It's a skateboard. There's no word other than "skateboard" in our language and in our brains. It's a skateboard.

When things are ridden differently, they can become different disciplines. Lay down on a skateboard feet first, it's a streetluge or a buttboard. Lay down head first, it's skeleton. Strap them to your feet, they're rollerskates.

Unicycles, bikes, trikes, and quads are based on the number of wheels AND how differently they are ridden.
A unicycle is ridden very differently than a bike, trike, or quad.
A bike is ridden very differently than a unicycle, trike, or quad.
A trike is ridden very differently than a unicycle, bike, or quad.
A quad is ridden very differently than a unicycle, bike, or trike.

Riding a 6 wheel skateboard is like riding a 4 wheel skateboard. But if you're into counting wheels, you could always take a 2 wheel skateboard like the Tierney, split the wheels so that they're a millimeter apart, and call it a 4 wheel skateboard. Everyone would see that it's not a "real" skateboard, but the lame-ass dictionary definition would be spot on. If there's a word I don't understand, I may use the dictionary. But it's the LAST place that I'd go to get an understanding of what a skateboard is. Period.

 
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defINITION
On 3/31/2006 zaC wrote in from United States  (65.19.nnn.nnn)

on dICTIONARY.COM IT SAYS ''A BOARD HAVING A SET OF FOUR WHEELS UNDER IT''

 
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Definitions
On 3/31/2006 Bud wrote in from United States  (68.57.nnn.nnn)


Skateboarding: (verb) The simple act of riding a skateboard.

Skateboard: (noun) A wheeled device, generally meant to be stood upon, and steered via leaning either to the right, or to the left.

(I think that's how Webster's defining it these days... as if they should be the last word on how words are defined or whatever.......)

I had an interesting discussion- okay, debate- last month, concerning whether land luge was "skateboarding" or not. My position was, sure, why not? It has skate wheels, skate trucks, skate bearings... seems pretty skateboard to me.

The counterpoint: "Yeah, jackbutt, but you don't stand on it!!" Okay? But, what do you call it if I do a coffin on my longboard, hmmm.....?

Thrasher once did an article on land luge- as did TWS. If they covered it- and, they're not exactly the definition of open-minded, might I add- then, certainly, it must be skateboarding.....?

Laugh if you want- but, when someday, someone wants to set an absolute speed record on a skateboard, Mr. Photoshop's illustration below may one day cease being a silly joke, and begin a whole new career, as the first in a long line of blueprints designed for success.

Oh, yeah: And, it'll still be skateboarding, too. Techno nerds, unite!!!

 
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On 3/31/2006 dan@csu wrote in from United States  (216.17.nnn.nnn)

no, it's photoshop.

 
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Skateboarding?
On 3/31/2006 zac wrote in from United States  (65.19.nnn.nnn)

That is deffinetly not skateboarding!

 
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going full aero
On 3/31/2006 pierre Gravel wrote in from Canada  (24.203.nnn.nnn)

Will we all look like this soon? Hope not...

 
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Skateboarding?
On 3/31/2006 zac wrote in from United States  (65.19.nnn.nnn)

Fairings, six wheels, Is this skateboarding?

 
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wheel request 2
On 3/30/2006 herbn wrote in from United States  (205.188.nnn.nnn)

i'm using basically two different wheels 78a grippins and 78a gumballs,my really low board needs the 76mm wheels i kind of like the traction i get from the grippins better, basically 76mm grippins would rock

 
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Fair Play
On 3/28/2006 Chris Chaput wrote in from United States  (66.116.nnn.nnn)

I'm not sure why you'd fair the front leg. A leg has a naturally blunt round front to it. I also don't know if you push mongo or regular, and whether or not you'd be kicking the thing. You also have to consider if a front leg fairing would interfere with your tuck. I push mongo and could fair the back of my rear foot, and avoid kicking it or having it interfere with my tuck. It would tend to clean the trailing air which is what you want. If the fairing was a part of the board, and the specs didn't allow more than a 6" tall board, about all you could cover was your front foot. If whatever you make was aerodynamic and effective, it will probably be banned if you you ever win a race with it. Until then, there's a good chance that people will just make fun of it. One man's knee pad is another man's fairing.

Fairings work in just about every form of racing, because the faster you go the more the need for good aerodynamics. This is especially true in Gravity Sports where we have no engine (other than ourselves) and where drafting in packs is common. Start with a set of good "sleek" leathers, a good helmet, fairing your board, and working on your tuck. Fairing your front foot will help the least, so do it last.

 
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Fairing
On 3/28/2006 sean wrote in from United States  (63.105.nnn.nnn)

Chris, I am interested in running a fairing on my front leading leg. It would run from the dorsum of my foot and get wider as it came up to just above my knee. I think I could possition myself behind the fairing and poke my head just above the top. I think it would work well especially well on a non tech race. I guess my question is-Can you have to much fairing?

 
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Go For It
On 3/27/2006 Chris Chaput wrote in from United States  (66.116.nnn.nnn)

Hey Rob, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. Try it! You probably are going to use old hole patterns anyway, so just go for it. Set it up so that the "middle" truck is slightly suspended off of the ground until you step on the board. Maybe a thick washer under the back busing to get that truck to steer a little quicker. Let us know what you find. We're all still learning.

 
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6 Wheeler Question
On 3/27/2006 Rob H. wrote in from United States  (71.255.nnn.nnn)

Okay, so I rode a friends 6 wheeler recently and I really liked the feel. So much in fact that I'm dying to try it on my new GS, (I had it come with the optional extra wheelbase just in case) but I'm wondering about the setup. Currently I'm running cut down randal DH hangers cut to 130mm, with a 50 plate wedged up front and a 35 plate in the back. I was wondering if I took the front hanger off and put it on another 35 degree plate and moved it to the back, and then run a 106mm RTX in front, wedged and rised so the height was even. So I'd have two 130mm trucks in back at 35 degrees with a 106mm truck in front. Do you think this would work, or would the difference in length cause problems? What about if I ran two 50 degree plates in the back with the RTX front?

These are just the possible setups I can do right now without spending any additional cash.
Thanks in advance for any advice you could give me.

And thanks for all the great wheels.

 
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I'm in, Chris
On 3/24/2006 Bud wrote in from United States  (68.57.nnn.nnn)


I'm confirmed for the 8th in Columbus, Chris. You pick the restaurant, I'll bring the cash.

 
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april 8th hybrid
On 3/24/2006 Luke wrote in from United States  (204.210.nnn.nnn)

Dude, check the contest calendar, its all there. Its april 8th at the derby hill, and its hybrid.

 
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theres a race here?
On 3/23/2006 chris in ohio wrote in from United States  (65.24.nnn.nnn)

whoah, theres a race here, wheres it at, the derby hill. so confused, maybe if i dont hear back on here, ill give kenny a call, im sure he knows whats up.

 
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Christopher'n Columbus
On 3/22/2006 Chris Chaput wrote in from United States  (72.67.nnn.nnn)

Actually, I'm going to Columbus for the race on April 8th. I hope to see you there.

 
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Columbus
On 3/22/2006 Bud wrote in from United States  (68.57.nnn.nnn)


Chris, you're going to Columbus on June the 6th, correctamundo? If so, I'll see ya there; I owe ya dinner or sumthin'.

 
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