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Skitching
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On 6/23/2005 EthanOB
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Yeah skitching just seems be pretty dangerous. An older really experienced skater here in SanFran had to get his leg amputated after having it run over in a skitching accident a few years ago. Can't remember the guys name tho, hope he's doin OK.
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Skitching
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On 6/23/2005
SamG
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I blame Marty McFly. He was doing it way back in 1955:
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skitching...
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On 6/23/2005
Michael Brooke
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anyone catch this story?
Fort Worth death highlights 'skitching' danger
01:41 PM CDT on Wednesday, June 22, 2005
By JANELLE STECKLEIN and JONATHAN TJARKS / DallasNews.com
A Fort Worth teenager’s death earlier this week is pointing to the dangers of skitching, the illegal act of being towed on a skateboard by a moving vehicle.
Daniel Roberts, 17, who was hanging on to a truck before falling off his skateboard, died Monday night at Harris Methodist Fort Worth Hospital, according to the Tarrant County medical examiner’s office.
Lords of Dogtown, the recently released movie about the Venice, Calif., teens who revolutionized the skateboard world of the '70s, features a scene in which the main characters skitch behind a fast-moving city bus.
Several skateboarders at Suburbia Skate Community in Lewisville said this week that they have skitched, usually by grabbing the metal handles on the backs of postal trucks. When the mailmen notice they are hanging on and get angry, they said, they let go.
Tanner Jones, 11, said skitching isn’t something he does every day.
“It’s not that common,” Tanner said. “It’s like partying. It’s fun to do on occasion.”
Police still were investigating Daniel’s unusual death, said Sgt. Don Hanlon of the Fort Worth police traffic investigations unit.
“We haven’t come across it (before),” he said. “We’re treating the case very seriously and making sure everything is done correctly.”
The police must interview several witnesses, including an off-duty police officer who was in a nearby front yard, and a boy who was riding his bike behind Daniel.
One witness said the truck was going around 5 mph when Daniel was critically injured, Hanlon said. Hanlon said he does not believe Daniel was wearing a helmet.
Upon completion of the investigation, the district attorney will decide whether to charge the 20-year-old truck driver. Hanlon said a “plethora of potential charges” is possible, but because the case is rare there is no precedent.
Skateboarding safety tips
Kevin Fearn, a senior statistics associate with the National Safety Council, said skateboarding deaths are uncommon. There were no reported fatalities in 2003, the most recent year for which statistics are available, but an estimated 97,649 accidents required emergency room treatment, most often for ankles and wrists. Almost 7,000 people were treated for head injuries.
The safety council recommends that skateboarders wear all appropriate protective gear, learn how to fall to avoid serious injury, and steer clear of riding among pedestrians or behind vehicles.
Zach Cocker, 17, who works at Suburbia Skate Community, said he was not surprised to hear about the fatal accident.
“You’ve got car, wheels, body. It’s just not a good combination,” he said.
Willie Weatherly, 13, said he was concerned that the accident would give skateboarding a bad reputation.
“It doesn’t really affect me,” Willie said. “I mean you can die if you fall off the side of the street the right way. You know when you skateboard you’re taking a risk.”
East Plano’s Eisenbergs Skatepark owner, Josie Eisenberg, said skitching is fairly common, although she doesn’t recommend it. In fact, when her brother was 17, he injured his elbow badly in a similar accident, she said.
“It’s more of a daredevil thing,” she said. “It’s just boys being boys. Boys will still find something to be pulled on.”
She said more serious and fatal accidents can be attributed to vehicles in the street than in a skate park.
Eisenberg said rolled ankles is the most common injury. Inexperienced skateboarders, or veterans going for big tricks, get injured most often.
“Wear a helmet,” she said. “Know your surroundings. Use your common sense and keep your eyes open.”
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Devo Song before it was released?
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On 6/22/2005
Marc F.
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I remember hearing Mongoloid by Devo but the skaters were riding decks from around '75. If I remember correctly the Mongoloid song was out around '78 or '79 and we were riding better decks like the Sims Andrecht and Bowman boards. Am I correct, was the Devo song placed too early in the movie? I still thought the movie was great!!
Marc
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flix
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On 6/21/2005 chief
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chaput, what about a sk8 film called reissued.........
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TA to the Rescue?
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On 6/20/2005
Chris Chaput
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United States
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It appears that TA has a tendency to pick wheel duros that work better on the round wall than the flatlands. As a matter of fact, he really likes the VertZ (96a). He put them onto some boards that he brought onto the set of Lords Of Dogtown and Fox Studios. So if you see the green wheels in the TA/Stacy interview that appears on the new special edition Dogtown & Z-Boys DVD, or you saw the Best Damn Sports Show with TA and Stacy, you know where they came from.
There were a bunch of 3dm wheels made to look like Road Riders and/or Powerflexes. You can see them in some pool scenes, HB and LB. What I still don't get, is why the book, the trailer, and even the movie featured this shot of Adam Alfaro on a concave double-kicked deck with little white radiused wheels. Adam rips, but this was the biggest lapse in "authenticity" that I could see. maybe they just wanted to see if we were paying attention...
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He he he...
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On 6/19/2005
Mark Jeangerard
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I figured so much, Jack. But I was in need of a prop myself... for my little loose bearing joke.
I'm gonna love LODT. I don't know the history that well but I was in Santa Cruz at that time and all these flicks, including the ones that were made then, remind me of a great time in my life and skateboarding. Those days were the best. Period. These days are also the best, and skateboarding is a heeeuge part of why.
MJ
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Prop Wheels
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On 6/19/2005
Jack
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United States
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I coordinated the production of the original run of "prop wheels", which were supposed to be poured in a low to mid 80's durometer. However, at the last minute TA told the props department that wheels should be in the mid 90's. Thus creating the slipping and sliding that Chris writes about.
3DM Cambrias were also poured in translucent colors for use in the film. My friend Adrian Pina and I spent many hours in my garage lathing the name off the wheels. Actually, I watched, while Adrian did the work.
Dan at 3DM just poured a bunch more of these in translucent red.
Mark, I've seen the film numerous times, the "wow" wheels you speak of, clearly have loose ball races.
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Russ Howell
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On 6/19/2005
Scott
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Australia
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So much hatred for Russ Howell. You can make anyone look lame when you control the facts. Like controlling the mood and the music during the doco which made them apeaR LAME. tHEN INTRODUCING THE z-bOYS WITH HEAVY COOL MUSIC GOING ON. lIKE i SAID WHEN YOU CONTROL THE CUT YOU CAN MAKE ANYONE LOOK BAD.I fully respect the Z-Boys for what they were doing. I also fully respect Russ Howell for being a brilliant skater.
Have a bit of respect for all the skaters back then.
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Biniak Was There...
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On 6/19/2005
msk
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United States
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"And where was Biniak? guess he didnt sign the release either."
Biniak was played by Mike Ogas, and had a line or two. And the real Biniak has a cameo as the restaurant manager...
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LODT
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On 6/19/2005 mmanzi
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United States
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Saw the movie, it was true enough to not prompt me to be pissed about inaccuracy, and fairly entertaining. Brought back many memories from that age. I laughed at the freestylers in the Del Mar contest scene in the movie as much as I did at their pictures in Skateboarder at the time. "The Life of Russ Howell"? Anyone that thinks that would make a good film should just hang it up, in fact they should have hung it up back then. But I guess we all need comic relief. Maybe I was lucky in that skating was always really about surfing and still is. No apologies there, just my personal view.
I figured that Jeff Ho did not want to be associated with the Hoolywood version and as such was not written in to the film. Also seconding other's cooments on Skip, his character was "pumped up" to fill a role which apparently the writers decided was needed in the film. Skip is the real deal and the real circumstances of the Z team splitting apart simply due to the $$ was also apparently not "big" enough for the films writers. And "topper Burks" was supposed to be Bunker Spreckles? They got that one pretty twisted up too. Oh well. Liked the cameos, spotted Jay, Red Dog, Skipper, but not TA or Stacy. And where was Biniak? guess he didnt sign the release either.
Well, I have my copy of DT-ZBoys, but doubt I'll get LODT to see again. I would however, be interested in buying one of the repro Zephyr skates, lost mine a long time ago. Now that was a good board, why does'nt someone make an updated version for 2005?
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Movie Wheels
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On 6/19/2005
Chris Chaput
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United States
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A number of different wheels were used in the movie. It's difficult to say for sure from the pictures and movie clips, but I believe that the wheels in the Zephyr shop that are being held up do have loose ball races in them. Other "reissue" types of wheels were used, some of which had loose balls and some of which had precision bearings. Whenever precision bearings were used on a board in a closeup, we'd have the shields removed from the bearings and the cages orientated to resemble loose ball bearings.
The prop wheels were pretty hard and slippery, making it really difficult to perform some of the tricks on the ramps at Del Mar and Huntington Beach. I had choreographed routines for the freestyle competitions, and I wanted us to be able to carve and spin without sliding out. I made the first Retro wheels by cutting down some 60mm NO SkoolZ in 81a and dying them yellow, which had them turning out a brownish amber color. I showed Alva how we were able to stick the turns on the slippery freestyle area, and he asked to try my board. After a couple of laps he came back and asked me if I had any more for Victor and Adam, the actor and double who play Tony. "I just happen to have a couple extra sets in my bag". The next day, I was distributing wheels for the Stacy's, the Jay's, and the props department. They'd use the hard wheels for some of the slides, and my wheels for everything else. They even spray painted mine to look like clay wheels for the early scenes including the one behind the bus.
Trust me on this point, NO ONE MISSES LOOSE BALL BEARINGS. Or stripping out baseplates, or solid oak cracking down the bolt holes...
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I'm a thane
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On 6/19/2005
sc
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United States
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yeah, that buzzing/clicking sound that loose bearing wheels made when you spun em
... and that cadillac moment ... not so much seeing, it was the riding ... holy !
OK Chaput, you've really done it now, where's that stain on Russ Howell's left finger, where's the airplane that flew overhead 8 seconds after he looked over his left shoulder at Desiree, where's the way I felt when I was 14 years old, huh, huh ???!!!
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That aint right... Chaput?
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On 6/19/2005
Mark Jeangerard
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United States
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OK, I haven't seen the movie yet. I really, really want to but as they say, "Real life rears it's ungly head." I'll know more about my schedule in the next few days. I'm hoping Thursday.
That being the case, I've already identified a glaring inaccuracy in the flick. A few pages back there is a still of the skactor Peralta saying, "Wow" while ogling the new urothane wheel design. (A moment in time I remember distinctly. Mine happened in my dads garage with a friend presenting the super high tech goods. I think I may have said, "Whoa".) That wheel is dead wrong. The first thanes I remember, the Stokers and Cadillacs, had cups, cones, and loose bearings as the hub.
The greatest memories of my youth are of crawling under my dads car, in the oily dust, with graphite coated fingers, looking for the three bearings that rolled off the tool bench. I need a wheel that is always too loose, or too tight, never just right. I've been pining for wheels that will blow off on a mountain road three miles from my house, bearings hiding in planters and sewer drains, and the walk back home to get more parts. I fondly yearn for the feeling I get when uneven wear will cause a wheel to lockup because nothing about it is round any more.
So what about it, Chaput? Are you going to release "real" retro wheels or not?
MJ
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lance
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On 6/19/2005 yourmom
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United States
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red dog made all those boards for the movie not the actor in the movie. so give it up you won't find it.
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it felt good
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On 6/19/2005
swooper
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United States
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I was delighted to see ANY Hollywood production centered on skateboarding and don't feel like nit-picking on it. There's a lot that wasn't wrong with the film, no criminals with cars and guns chasing our heroes etc. I liked the attitude of the film, lots of really funny-offensive stuff. Mostly I came out glad to be a 'boarder and excited to go ride. I loved it.
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our movie
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On 6/19/2005
cfav
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United States
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we are still working on our script,"Freaks of Chi-Town".look for more info son.cf
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lance
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On 6/18/2005 foghorn
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you bother me boy, you bother me
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stacys board
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On 6/18/2005 lance
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United States
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i wana find out where to get the board stacys using down below.
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skateboard
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On 6/18/2005 tbusch
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United States
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what skateboard?
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STACY'S board
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On 6/18/2005 lance
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yeah but thats not red dog that the actor playing stacy peralta.
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would love to see more
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On 6/18/2005 Bob Neishi
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United States
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There is nothing I love more than the Bro's that have the Sack to make a movie. Dog town rules and always will. Surfing on concret is pure soul, Thats where it starts and thats where it ends. The boys in orange county respect the style that the Z boys shared with the world. I always wanted a z flex
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I finally saw the movie- My Review
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On 6/17/2005 Paul Howard
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United States
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Too bad Joe Johnson (Am for Powell and Pro for Vision in the 80's) was'nt in Peralta's place in real life in the Z-Boy days, the actor playing Peralta(Johnson) would have been a dead ringer.
Aside from that, it's a good movie if you take most of it to be just Hollywood fiction (with a LOT of imaginitve liscense and little historical accuracy) to produce a movie storyline. I did'nt know any of the Z-Boys back then either so I'm stating that from simply knowing the flow of skateboarding history as depicted from old skateboard magazines I was looking at back in the 70's.
OK, so enough of this arm-chair historical critique, it was entertaining though a little over-blown but then again, it's Hollywood, not a documentary. It was fun seeing how many "find the old skater in a cameo appearance"'s I could spot.
If you want historical accuracy, don't go see it, if you just want to go see a movie about a slightly alternate universe version of the Z-Boys and all their trial and tribulations, then it's good fun. That's my 2 Cents
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the board in the movie
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On 6/17/2005 ???????
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United States
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you can't,unless you know red dog well enough to have him make you one. why do you want that exact board?
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stacys board
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On 6/16/2005 lance
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United States
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yeah i mean the one the actor is using in the picture. do u know anywhere to get it?
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