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never heard of skogging but use both legs
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On 4/5/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
To those mentioning they never heard of skogging or why there is even a thread for it while they've been "doing it" all their lives and never knew there was a name for it.
There is no doubt a limited number of people on this planet that can alternate each foot in regular and mongo styles while carving and skumping for long distances. While any grasshopper can jump on a board and alternate each leg and think they got it down is not the point. In my opinion, as in proper jogging there are proper ways to skog so a total body work out is attained. If you are a downhill mogul skiier you might catch my drift. Picking out a path down the "fall line" and evenly distributing muscle effort and co-ordination so it becomes more than just alternating pushing legs. It becomes an upperbody exercise involving the lowerback distributing weight shifts in desirable positions while cranking turns and alternating pushing legs. If anyone has seen Dan Gessmers ballet video, it is clear in his world he has this down. If you multiply his movements in small increments of speed, you'll be inthe skogging zone. I have no doubt in my mind, being actively in the middle of this skateboard feat with crowds cheering me on and today's conventional skaters respecting the movement, that skogging is more than just alternating legs to get somewhere. It's a celebration of skate dancing with gravitational forces in a symmetrical effort and the result is an enlightened exercise routine.
click for stickers
Cheers mates
Chris Yandall
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Crankin Skogging Turns
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On 4/5/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
Original Trucks, Gumballs de jour and a 38 Special.
Cranking hard turns on either leg while skogging is probably just as much fun as catching christ air!
checking in with this forum is my favorite part of the day :D but for now.. back to slinging HTML all over the planet.
I'll be down in Mission Beach this weekend. Anyone wanna hook up, let me know! It's a good 8-10 mile skog all around the coolest areas of Mission Beach/Bay and PB.
cYa
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SERIOUSLY!
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On 4/5/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
 NICE!
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endurance event
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On 4/3/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
Endurance and Skateboarding - huzzzah!! If you ever make it up north, join us on the Solstice 13 or 26 miler, charity for the King County homeless/emergency shelters etc... Pumping encouraged, pushing accepted, spandex strongly discouraged.
http://www.ncdsa.com/contest_registration.asp?ContestID=231#signup
Yes someday we'll all retire on tropical islands from the multi-millions made in skateboard sales! ;-)
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Cut the Jive and Jog :P
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On 4/2/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.95.nnn.nnn)
endurance and skateboarding? :D . marketing boards keeps getting more imaginative but the more and more this old man skates the more and more he prefers to be a few inches off the ground.
as for that bloody article back in the 70's, I'd sure love to find that too soon. got a few promises to get it so soon yea?
and yes my skogging days keep on keeping on. lately, i've stepped it up(so to speak) to mongo(thanks for the def, guys!) pushing switch foot forcing mongo with either leg. it's real challenge but the next is to figure out pumping strong in the unnatural position. i think by the time i'm 60, i'll have it down.
i'd say in the last 2 weeks, i've only missed a few days skogging 10-15 miles a day! but some people have to work :D . looking forward to the days I can mix it up more.
i wrote 'cut the jive and jog' 25 years ago in an attempt to get more people thinking strongly about switch-foot pedaling which led to today's skogging.
it's time to whip out the clinics and the boards :D
stickers are available. just email me for details.
blessings to all RIP IT UP!
cYa
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97/145mm wheelz
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On 4/2/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
Oldstoke, the 145mm's have an easy top-end coasting speed, but the 97mm's have less inertia at the usual 10--15mph push speeds, partly because of the magic green urethane? -and a wider contact patch for better grip when you need it, with one foot up on a grip-taped fender I can pump the yellow Sportster when tired of pushing. Erin, I've tested 75-85mm wheels, especially like the Avilas! --but needed a lot of riser/jacking up to compensate for the massive drop deck (ergo, the bottom-out scratches on the decks!!) So for a distance 'pushing' production deck I definately think these are it, especially in Seattle. I mainly ride these on rainy days because of the fenders, and the fact that pumping on wet asphalt is a sketchy proposition! Stoke, for distance 'pumping' decks like Roe and LBL... check back on the Pumping forum as well!
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efficient alternate push decks
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On 3/29/2006
Erin
wrote in from
Canada
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James the Rolls Rolls triplets look so sweet!
OldStoke, I have also found that a lowered deck that is light and with a hint of flex to be the most comfortable and efficient alternate push deck. I lucked into a Landy DH maple/cf proto a few years back. It is such a dream board for alternate pushing and yet is equally competent when its comes to moderate to high speed downhill carving.
The lowered boards are so easy on the joints when it comes to pushing for 20 or 30 kilometres at a go. However lower is not enough. Many speedboards are low but HEAVY! A touch of carbon fibre or all cf decks like the Rolls Rolls seem to be what is needed for the long haul.
As for wheel size, I tend toward smaller wheels than James. I have run 83 flys but find them even a bit big for long distance alternate pushing. I have gone to Gumballs on the cf/wood DH and really enjoy how quickly they accelerate and how politely they maintain their speed.
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Rolls
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On 3/28/2006 OldStoke
wrote in from
United States
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Wow, THREE Rolls Roll's? Are the 97mm flys really more efficient then the stock super large diameter skinny wheels? If so, to what do you attribute that?
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efficient push deck
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On 3/28/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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The RollsRolls is the best push-oriented drop deck in my book - its ultralight, and the key on this one for distance, is using soft riser pads plus carvy trucks and wheels to take care of shock absorbption. Most efficient combination in my quiver is the one pictured on the left, Original truck up front (Revenges are nice too...) Gullwing Cruiser 60 in back, 97mm 75a Flywheels. The deck is mostly stiff, but has a nice 'pop' inherent to carbon fiber. Those fenders are extremely useful in Seattle where it rains a lot (arrrgghhh) including this morning, as I get ready to head out! If Chaput makes his 97mm's in Retro urethane, I'll have to start selling organs on eBay...
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efficiency
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On 3/28/2006 OldStoke
wrote in from
United States
(12.75.nnn.nnn)
So is the Rolls Rolls the most efficient production board for distance/endurance?
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low,low ,low
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On 3/27/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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low is the major factor in efficiency, build it low enough, but leave it far enough off the ground to allow for a comfortable flex, flex does increase efficiency by reducing fatigue. Springy materials like carbon reduce the amount of energy absorbed by the board.
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flex and pushboards
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On 3/27/2006 OldStoke
wrote in from
United States
(12.75.nnn.nnn)
I've heard from some skaters that flex takes away from the efficiency of pushing/pedeling, and others have said that you increase eficiency by allowing the flex to store and release energy. Also, since some dampening of road shock and vibration is nice, does the flex actually help to eliminate fatigue?
In thinking about the ideal distance board, what do you guys think would be best? Lightweight, low deck, large diameter wheels, flex/no flex?
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Mongo
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On 3/27/2006 OldStoke
wrote in from
United States
(12.75.nnn.nnn)
Tried Mongo both natural and goofy yesterday. Since I was already skating switch, it wasn't a difficult transition. Now I get the difference-no coast time, and a more fluid rhythem. Hope my two-footed carving skills don't degrade!
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Have I been Skogging?
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On 3/24/2006 OldStoke
wrote in from
United States
(12.75.nnn.nnn)
I'm 53 and have been riding longboards for around 6 years now. I hadn't been on a skateboard since my steel wheeled Rinky Dink days in the 60's till I spotted a 45" board with 66mm wheels. From the first day I hopped onto my Gravity Classic Concave I realized that I must learn to ride goofy if I'm gonna do it for a cardio workout, and have been switching stance every 2-4 minutes with never a mongo.(cause I never even thought of it) I'll go anywhere from 30 minutes to 3 hours depending on weather and mood. Never "Skumped", but then again never heard of it till yesterday.
Have I been Skogging without realizing it or is the technique something more specific?
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Cut the Jive and Jog article
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On 3/21/2006
Marc F
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
Chris, it would be great if you could post the Cut the Jive and Jog article on one of your websights so we can read it.
Marc
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Cliff! Skogging! y0! The Roll Your Own Exercise
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On 3/21/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
I'm not ignoring everyone, I'm simply out-of-control busy with web application contracts. Been up late nights coding up storms for cash. But I never fail to get out at least 3-5 times a week to rage down the mission/pacific beach boardwalk freaking people out by clowning around the 10-12mph mark switching feet, pumping and making faces at cute babes everywhere :D
And a clinic sounds like a great idea Cliff. Give me a few weeks to try to organize my thoughts and actually offer a document that outlines my process. There is a method to pick up quick that requires stationary exercises.
You'd be amazed at my leg tone. My GF agrees that skogging is key for building studly leg muscles from calves to thighs. She blades while I skog. So she gets to see and hear peoples comments on what I'm doing. There is a lot of amazement to doing it properly. There is a boring way to skog which requires tight trucks and big wheels for maintaining a 15mph clip for smiles and smiles... and there is an exciting way to have a kick ass time with super looose originals on a cambered/concave 38"-ish deck which involves sweeping one foot carves, mixed with alternating feet pushes and pumping at a 8-10mph clip.
Not everyone finds a natural tendency to switch feet to push and that is why this bloody message board thread exists. It is here to spice up the sidewalk surfing, pumping, alternate styles skateboard threads. So if you were doing it before this board showed up cool. I have a magazine article I wrote for skateboarder magazine back in the mid 70's outlining this technique which probably predates most of the viewers here....
Skatboarding is such a great sport. The industry is now ruled by the youngsters with their passion to slide down stair rails and get danny way air. It is also large enough to include skogging as a viable way to get exercise for some of us wanting less body impact demands. I need everyone to get this technique wired and pushed on the younger kids that can benefit them in many ways. Balance, aerobic and mental consistency is all part of the skogging persuasion.
and hey! Rene! that aint me! I dont fall off my board in the water :P
somebody wanna know about my decks? when you buy a skogging sticker, you'll get a hardcopy order form....
visit www.skogging.com. soon there will be a link to get a skogging sticker.
cheers mates and be back soon!
Chris [cYa] Yandall
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Note to Chris
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On 3/20/2006
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Chris,
Congratulations on your page here at NCDSA!
I would still love to run a clinic for the kids in your area. Let's see what we can do. Please e-mail me and we can talk.
Cliff Coleman
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okay
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On 3/20/2006 isabelle
wrote in from
United States
(209.66.nnn.nnn)
guess i've been skogging for quite a while the.......
when i skate uphill, skogging keeps my thighs from blowing-up.......
i never knew switchfoot pushing/alternating had a name!!!!!
learn something new every day.......
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Chris......Skogger Mania !
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On 3/19/2006
Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco
wrote in from
United States
(71.135.nnn.nnn)
Chris -
What the heck !
- - -is that you ?
http://www.newportsurfshots.com/IMG_7581.jpg
-hmmmmm.
Take care,
...............-Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco.
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Skogging...
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On 3/19/2006 silversurfer
wrote in from
United States
(71.192.nnn.nnn)
From www.skogging.com:
"Skogging, the roll your own exercise", is the art and sport of using both legs/feet to propel one's skateboard. By simple definition, it is jogging with your skateboard. You alternate your pushing legs.
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skogging
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On 3/18/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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is short for skating oops it's not really short is it ,actually it's exactly the same,if you skate around,instead of walking/running/JOGGING(primative pedanderthal behavior),you skog.
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stupidity
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On 3/17/2006 isabelle
wrote in from
United States
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duhhh.......
what's skogging for a not-so-easy way to ask a stupid question?
i searched for the answer, but so many posts/words got in the way.
thanks and make sure you stop laughing by time i see you next!!!
PEACE
always looking for a new "ride"
skater 4 life
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8 Mile Skogging session
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On 3/11/2006
Marc F.
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
I went for an 8 mile skogging session a couple days ago. I'm still having problems when it's time alternate my pushing legs but I'm getting better. If feels more natural everytime. I used a 42' Gravity Mini Carve with Tracker 149's and red Krypto's last time and it works great for skogging but not that great for pumping. My Yandall Wreckreation Cruiser works great with Gumballs and Tracker Race tracks. It is really good for pumping. I also use a Gravity 37" Diamond Tail with Randall 150's and 75a Grippins. All the decks are fun in their own way. I will try to send some pics if the weather would cooperate. Later, Marc
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Skogging Deck...
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On 3/10/2006 silversurfer
wrote in from
United States
(71.192.nnn.nnn)
Any news on the Chris Yandall signature skogging/pumping deck?
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Mongo Clarification
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On 3/10/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.95.nnn.nnn)
Thanks. So it's basically the backside portion of the push i.e. backfoot towards the rear. So if a mongo pusher learns to skog, then the opposite push once mastered might lead to new habits :D
hey hc. will try to have a look at those too but for now, my orignals are doing the trick for flatland cruising. you up for a skog? let me know.. i hang out at MB boardwalk often and getting hooked up there might be easy.
and that taco motion dude... damn PB locals everywhere! that food is typical mexican food in san diego but their ceviche rocks! even taco surf works :P
still kickin down the skogging doors in the hood here. this spring looks like sidewalk surfing is ready to rock again.
cheers everyone
cYa
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