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Safety Equipment (1172 Posts)
Product Review
Pony (again)
On 7/23/2002 R. wrote in from (156.40.nnn.nnn)

Here are some good pics with funny typos:
www.brandnameshoes.com/pony-shoes-athletic-tennis-shoes.html

 
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Pony
On 7/23/2002 R. wrote in from (156.40.nnn.nnn)

WesE
sure-- In D.C., they sell Pony shoes at Long Rap, 1420 Wisconsin Ave. NW. I've never been there, don't know if they have any good models (Pony has some stinky ones). I saw the shoes in Toronto, and I bought them online for about 50 or 60 clams. There is also a store in Balto and one in Hanover, just look on the Pony website for stores (www.pony.com). The sucky-er shoes I have are the Freethrows. The good ones, I think are the "Starter" models (forgot to ask the shoeperson). My Freethrows have "Pony" on the soles, and padding in the ankles and tongue. The Starters only have your basic Adidas zig-zag pattern in the sole, and minimal padding in the upper. The Starters also have a noticeable concave in the sole, the Freethrows don't. I'd just go and try both on and see which you like. You can also find pictures at various sites by typing in "Pony Shoes" into Google.

 
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Pony shoes
On 7/23/2002 WesE wrote in from (208.59.nnn.nnn)

D,
Can you say which ones are the good ones and how much they cost? If you got them in the DC area, where?

I am all about buying only non-puffy shoes.

 
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Pony Shoes
On 7/22/2002 R. wrote in from (156.40.nnn.nnn)

a while ago i posted on Pony sneaks with mostly negative things to say about them. However, I just checked out another model and they are SWEET, with enough padding in the heel for a cushy ride, nice concave sole and super grippy rubber. Still, avoid the ones I originally bought-- the more padded model (both look very similar). They also have a bunch of new models. Don't know if they are any good. They also still remain very good looking non-puffy sneakers.

 
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padded short liners
On 7/17/2002 gavin wrote in from (195.194.nnn.nnn)

has anyone seen, ridden or know anything about the padded short liners available here...?

www.atbshop.co.uk (look under accessories)

they look pretty good, and the price is excellent. comments?

 
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Really big helmets
On 7/16/2002 Dominik wrote in from (4.46.nnn.nnn)

Hey,
does anyone know which manufacturer(s) make(s) really big
helmets, like an XXL? My hat size is 7 7/8 to 8, so I get a
headache from all that tiny stuff out there.

 
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Re: Helmet
On 7/4/2002 Spat wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

I'm certainly not the expert in this field but what about the mountain bike helmets those guys use for downhill racing?

 
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need a helmet
On 7/4/2002 Rich wrote in from (172.183.nnn.nnn)

I'v been using a downhill mountain bike helmet for my all round cruising and and speedboarding needs. I know i SHOULD be useing a snell or Dot approved helmet but they are just so damn heavy. In particular the motor bike helmets are really heavy, and trying to stay in full tuck with your neck up is near impossible on a long run - anything longer than a kilometer slays me...i end up having to pull up out of my tuck and rest my neck.
The mountain bike helmets are a nice and light but i'm getting worried about crashing at high speed - 60km+. I'v yet to try a motocross helmet, and am going to buy a new helmet soon (something Snell/Dot certified) and was wondering what helmet would you guys recommend? The motorbike helmets are out as they too heavy.

 
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The 187 knee pads
On 6/29/2002 TK wrote in from (165.247.nnn.nnn)

I love my 187's . Them s#@!s gets so comfortable once they break in. Thanks Simon Levene! TK

 
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187 Knee pads
On 6/28/2002 Graham Sims wrote in from (66.20.nnn.nnn)

My dad just gave me an early birthday present on some 187 kneepads. Oh baby do they feel good to wear, and i HATE wearing pads. I can't wait to take them for a test skate at the Hanger bowl :) should be fun.

 
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giro switchblade
On 6/14/2002 ElTroubadour wrote in from (194.167.nnn.nnn)

For hill bombing, it would be better to use a motocross helmet,
or a snell B95 (better M2000) approved helmet, try Prorider gear, Azonic, or Fox.
If you want to buy a switchblade you will payed for the "Giro" sticker
but not for safety....
MX helmet are a bit heavy and warm, it's a price to paid if you want to
ride safe
Have a look on www.helmets.org/helmet02.htm

 
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Bike helmets for slalom
On 6/12/2002 Henry J wrote in from (68.63.nnn.nnn)

I'm a big mountain biker and I have a Bell Nemesis 2 pro helmet. It's really nice, comfortable, and light but is it cool to wear bike helmets for slalom and general skateboarding? Am I better off getting a skateboard helmet just to use for slalom?

hj

 
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giro switchblade
On 6/11/2002 hack wrote in from (132.230.nnn.nnn)

does anyone know the giro swith blade helmet? thought it might be cool to use it for mountain biking as well. don´t wanna have a helmet for each kinda sport. think it´ll be solid enough for some downhill bombing?



 
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Melting plastic
On 6/6/2002 Jim wrote in from (65.94.nnn.nnn)

Hey on this plastic melting thing, if anyone is even still doing it. I have repaired the gouges in the base of my snowboard many times with p-tex sticks. I would light the stick on fire with a lighter and keeping the flame BLUE is what keeps it clean. If there is any yellow flame you get carbon deposits on the melted plastic and it makes it brittle. keeping it super close to the base and rotating the stick would help keep the flame small, blue, and the dripping p-tex clean. Don't get it on your finger tho, the skin has to come off to remove it!

 
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More about melting plastic
On 6/5/2002 The other Wes wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

Wes, all I know is what several material engineers told me about the behavior of plastics. (I subscribe to "another" Internet duscussion list with a bunch of aerospace guys. I asked for their advice before I started my "injection modling" process for pivot caps.) If the plastic is allowed to burn, that ALTERS the characteristics of the plastic. It becomes something else. The way it was described to me is the plastic will "honeycomb" with all those air bubbles and that makes the plastic friable instead of elastic.

Heating it to a gooey consistency without boiling it will not alter the plastic itself. Once it cools, it's just like it was before heating.

Although I've never played with milk jugs, I can pretty well envision what you did. My only comment would be to take two pieces of plastic, heat one til its soft and heat the other til it bubbles. Let them both cool. See if one isn't still elastic (or bendable,) while the other is stiffer and prone ot crumble.

Oh, and just to clarify what I said, I wasn't criticizing you or your results at all. If it worked and you're satisfied with it, then everything is cool. I was just passing along some advice in general about plastic and its behavior. I'd hate to see someone decide to "reshape" something important like a chin guard and then have it shatter the first time it make contact with the road. Know what I mean?

 
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Meting plastic for patching
On 6/5/2002 WesE wrote in from (207.172.nnn.nnn)

Or are you saying that the patch will last longer if the patching material is not allowed to bubble?

 
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Melting plastic for filling gaps.
On 6/5/2002 WesE wrote in from (207.172.nnn.nnn)

WT, I don’t know if you read the method that I ended up using or not. The problem was a hole starting to form in the slider-cap of the knee pad. I needed something to patch it up with, in order to extend its life. I posted what ended up working for me, which was to allow pieces of milk jug to melt-until-transparent and then spread it into/on the gap. It’s fine if the piece on milk jug catches on fire while heating it up, as long as the flame is put out before applying.

 
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Melting Plastic
On 6/5/2002 W. Tucker wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

I just now read the comments from ALMOST A MONTH AGO about melting plastic and wanted to add one thing. Maybe it's too late to make a difference, but maybe it'll make things easier for someone in the future. (I was reading about "the other Wes's" use of HDPE for reforming slide caps.)

Simply put, as long as you MELT the plastic, it can be reformed into any shape. DO NOT LET PLASTIC CATCH FIRE! If the plastic "boils" and begins to bubble, you're screwed. It turns a resillient material into a crumbly piece of trash.

Always hold the heat source AWAY from the plastic and heat til it's gooey. As soon as you see it bubble, though, you've gone too far. Don't even try and save it. Sometimes plastic will change from opaque to clear when heated. This means you're getting real close to that fine line before it boils.

I do this sort of stuff occasionally to replace my pivot caps for my older trackers and Indys. Raw nylon stock melts easily and forms nicely. Once it burns, though, and gets sizzly, I put it out, cut it off and start over. Oh, one other thing: plastic IS NOT metal. Immersing it in cold water does not "temper" or alter it's properties. All it does it cool it off real fast and make it hard again just as it was originally.

Hope this helps a little.

 
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Helmet/Padding adhesive
On 6/5/2002 W. Tucker wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

Quick question: what is the best glue for re-attaching styrofoam to plastic? Epoxy? Weldbond? Super Glue? Elmer's?

I'm going to have to resurrect my Norcon from the grave if I'm to have a helmet to wear at Folly. The helmet really looks good. It's just the Road Rider and Tracker stickers that have faded a bit!

Thanks in advance and feel free to respond here or by e-mail.

 
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Crash Pads
On 6/1/2002 Scabs wrote in from (66.21.nnn.nnn)

r,
I have a pair of the crash pads and can easily say they work.....as long as you wear them. At Kona, I had them on and took my first spill in the snake run on my right hip. This is the same hip I`ve fallen twice before and the reason why I purchased the pads. But it got so hot and steamy in the afternoon, my nads felt like two roasting chesnuts. I took the pads off (bad move) and later on took a hipper on the left. This wasn`t as hard a fall as what I took on my right side. The right side with Crashpads had a quarter size bruise, while the left side without the crashpads sustained a 10 in bruiser that is still sore today.

These pads were made for extreme biking and have a fairly decent pad on the coccyx area. They also have a liner arounf the groin. I always wear underwear when skating and the combo is too hot. Maybe I`ll cut out the liner or go au natural under the shorts but you can bet I`ll be wearing them from now on...

They are available from Jack Smith (FCR) on his website justpushplay.com

 
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Shoes
On 5/25/2002 Kaylee wrote in from (68.35.nnn.nnn)

I'd really like to see a high-top version of said Airwalk shoe in addition to the proposed mid-top, for when I need the ankle support. That's what I was hoping the 661 Dually shoe was coming close to, but it fell way short. But, yeah, lace savers and the works. I loved Airwalk Disasters, Enigmas, and Velocity's (those were all the styles I tried), and have yet to find their equals.

 
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New designs needed badly
On 5/24/2002 WesE wrote in from (207.172.nnn.nnn)

My wish-it-were-available list:

Pads that are light-colored all around, open-back design (neoprane inner straps), webbing outer straps (non elastic), thick padding (at least 1.5") option for vert pads.

Shoes that have a mid-80s style lace-saver that covers all the lacing, waffle sole, thin padding in the tongue, more support than old-school Vans, leather ollie area. Basically, the original Airwalk design, but with the top cut off above the lace-saver.

 
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Pro-designed
On 5/24/2002 WesE wrote in from (207.172.nnn.nnn)

I'd like to say that PD responds to email regarding custom pads, but I can't. Same thing with The 187.

 
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Pro Designed
On 5/24/2002 Michael wrote in from (195.92.nnn.nnn)

Just took delivery of a complete set of custom Pro-Designed pads, Black and Red to match Turners colours...
these things are so burly and well made, and i'm sure they will give added confidence in races....
not cheap...but who wants CHEAP pads anyway?
William Walker (Wild Bill)in Texas was super effficient at customer service, dealing long distance to Europe, custom sizes, custom colours, Top Man! Michael
check out: http://www.prodesigned.com/

 
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Lazzy Legs Public Defenders
On 5/22/2002 Iowa Jeff wrote in from (216.248.nnn.nnn)

I just picked up a used set of Lazzy Legs Public Defender wrist guards at the local Play it Again Sports for $7.99. Best wrist guard I've ever used. Leather, top part is a fingerless glove, lots of adjustment available with 4 different velcro attachments. Has extra beefy plastic wrist brace insert, and looks suitable to slide on.

Play it Again had a lot of garbage, but of you root around long enough you can come up with some good stuff for cheap.

Apparently Lazzy Legs has been out of business for a few years, so they might be hard to find.

 
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