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kapu is dead
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On 2/22/1999 J. Exby
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Torsion Truck fans-
I have solid information that Kapu trucks has signed a "cease and desist" agreement, thanks to the official Patent that Exkate has on the Torsion trucks!
D'Adv is now purchasing Torsion trucks for some new projects, and the d'adv decks may also be "changing".
the only real and official place to get torsion trucks remains at exkate, just as all real l-boarders knew all along.
I'm just a satisfied customer, solidly riding Torsions on my real-wood deck, a finer combination can't be found in my opinion.
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Indy
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On 2/21/1999 X
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Is Indy trucks good for cruising????????
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randall 2s on cosmic rider2
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On 2/16/1999 drew
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In response to the question about randals on a cosmic rider 2,
I sugjest trying Randall 2 trucks. you don't get speed wobble; they carve nicely (especialy with the flex) and the truning radius is good enough for carving on the sidewalk.
The setup is great for bombing hills, even just staying on the sidewalk you can hit insane speeds and slow down quickly by carving off speed.
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different setups?
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On 2/16/1999
Tyler
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Has anybody ever tried an angled riser in the front and flat in the back? Or maybe a bigger wheel in the front and smaller in the back or vise versa? What about a torsion truck in the front and then a tracker or independant in the back? The combinations go on and on but would any of these speed you up or make you slide easier?
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Randals on Cosmic 2
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On 2/16/1999
Chris
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Nic,
I just put my Randal IIs on my Cosmic Rider 2, a alot of 2s going on here, eh, and it works killer. Mine was set up with Indys as well, and it wasn't real responsive, especially once you're used to good trucks. I had a set of eXkates I could've gone with, but I figured that the board by itself is pretty responsive, so should turn well with Randals. I felt that exKates would be too responsive on that board. Then again I think they are too responsive on just about an board. I hope this helps,
Chris
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eXkate or Randals
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On 2/16/1999
Nic
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My current board is a Cosmic II with Indy 215's and Kryp . Route 70's. Great board for all round (long) street fun except the trucks which take 1/2 mile to turn even when loose. Anyone know whether torsion or Randal 201 trucks would be better and if you can get them in the UK
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XT/eXkates question
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On 2/11/1999
Sandy M
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Steve,
I have never ridden that combination of gear, but I think that it might not be so great... I think the resulting board would be *extremely* heavy, have a very high center of gravity, and be quite wobbly (as exkates often are). IMHO, eXkates go better with traditional urethane wheels and no risers, and XT dirt wheels go better on stiff trucks, to keep you stable. That's my $0.25
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XT/eXkate question
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On 2/10/1999
Steve
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Intruiguing concept with the different angles. I'll have to bum one of my friend's angle risers. But I digress. Does anyone here know how eXkates will handle on a board about 44 inches long with XT Dirt Wheelz and their accompanying one-inch risers? I really love the wheels and am interested in the trucks. I asked the guys at the company through e-mail, but they never wrote back. Thanks!
steve
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Wobble again
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On 2/8/1999 glen
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I met Lee Dansie ( gold medal at 1998 Xgames standup downhill)
at the ASR show today. We talked about riding locations and gear for a bit. When the subject of trucks
and wobble came up, I was very surprised by his equipment. He uses Indy 215's on his
with hard bushings. I've been a dedicated Indy rider since '79 and nothing compares on vert., but
I've never found them to be good at speed. Lee said the key to keeping the wobs aways is to run your trucks
at different angles, i.e. angled riser up front, flat on back, or 2 different angled risers. He also does recommend
keeping the trucks tighted down but not to the point that you can't turn.
All of the above is his learned opinion not mine. I don't bomb hills anymore due to the fact
that I have developed an allergy to high speed wipeouts, I break out into a rash whenever I hit the ground.
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Speed wobbles return !
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On 2/5/1999 Rich
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Hi
In the interest of further research to the speed wobble debate I deceided to see how much our own body has to play in the equation. Obvious way to do it was to bomb some hills switch stance. Now starting from mellow dradients up it was a scarey experience. BUT all I can say is that I experienced the wobbles on hills at far lower speeds than when riding normal. I don't mean just jitters as I try and ride switch quite a bit and am pretty comfy carving at up to maybe 20mph switch. But the proper wobbles appeared a lot sooner ..... so i conclude a big part of the equation is your ability to 'lock' out your lower body and obviously this comes with practice. For info sake I was ridin' a 60" with 70mm Kryps and medium bushed kapu !
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dumb indy question
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On 2/3/1999
scheckey
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K. I got some "215's" today. Back in the 80's we called them 149 159 and 169 cause that was
how many mm's the hanger was. Not the axle but just the hanger. I got my 215s today and for the
hell of it put them up to a ruler and guess what? there 180s. WTF? Has anyone else tried this?
The only 215 I can find is from one end of the axle to the opposite end of the hanger. Maybe this is right but it
dosent seam right to me. Did I get the wrong truck or am I misunderstanding what 215 means?
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exkate torsion trucks
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On 1/27/1999
Jeff
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Once you ride torsions, you can never go back
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US9 - Pivit
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On 1/25/1999 Scott
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Anybody got anything to say about these trucks? Sector9 is putting them on their Cloud9 series boards. Thanks.
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JOnes trucks
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On 1/23/1999 Jimbo
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They are the lightest around!!!!!!!!
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e.Xkates
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On 1/19/1999
Duane
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I have the original e.Xkates on a wider, stiff deck, and I'm satisfied with the ride. However, I'm intrigued by the wider 201s. Anyone have any feedback on the wider trucks and how they ride vs. the originals? Thanks.
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The Real Deal On Speed Wobbles
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On 1/18/1999
John Cromer
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Dood...u want to hear the real scoop on them damn wobbles...then listen
up childrens...when ur in the middle of bombin' a phat hill, and u get a little
wobble.....chill the ghuck out, keep ur cool, put some flex in ur legs, and ride
it out....dont be a ghuckin pussie!
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RANDAL "Downhill speed"
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On 1/17/1999
Danny
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These truck are the best! Tank you Randal for making such an awesome truck! When I bomb a hill, they don't even give a hint of the dreaded wobbs. I would'nt trust my speedy @zz on any other truck.
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Jones Trucks
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On 1/15/1999
Chris
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The addres for Jones trucks is http://www.boardride.com/jones.htm
Keep it rollin' Chris-
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R-ll's
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On 1/14/1999 Chris
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The R-ll's are the best trucks I,ve ever ridden. They are way lighter than torsion trucks and turn on a dime. Loosen them for slides and parks, then tighten them up and hit the hills. No speed wobble
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Jones Trucks
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On 1/14/1999
Chris
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Hey
cuold you tell me about these trucks I want to pick a pair up at the sk8 shop.
thanx
Keep it rollin' Chris-slimer8111@aol.com
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Speed Wobbles
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On 1/13/1999 Egor
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Layman,
Best ways to reduce speed wobbles:
Tighten up your trucks,
I'm not sure if this is right, I've seen this done on some
older skates, put the risers on backwards. This should
lessen the kinkpin angle and help the wobbles. I've on;y seen this on
really old boards. You cannot set up exskates for speed. Harder
bushings help, but in the end the only way is to be
confident enough not to wobble with your feet. My
friend can do this, but I suck at it. Carving really helps
with speed wobbles as well. Above all just be confident.
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Enough Wobble BS
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On 1/12/1999 Layman
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Enough scientific claptrap and lets get to the heart of the matter. What are the best methods for reducing wobbles through either technique and/or gear. Wedges, wheelbase, wheel and truck height, camber or rocker, width of deck, weight placement (front or back), foot position, how to set up torsion trucks for wobbles, etc. This wobble forum has really been over analyzed and has strayed from practical advice. Enough already about bikes and cycles.
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Randal COMP-2
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On 1/12/1999
Ueli Niggli
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Hey, is it true that the Randal COMP-2 speedboarding trucks cost
75 bucks EACH!?!?
thanks
Ueli
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More Mumbles about Wobbles, etc.
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On 1/10/1999
Dan Gesmer / Seismic Skate Systems, Inc.
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On 1/8/99 Tannis wrote: "In some cases there is reverse steering characteristics! That is that they have to turn the wheel opposite normal direction to achieve directional changes."
Yes, it is my understanding that on bicycles one must first steer the front wheel in the direction *opposite* of the desired turn. (This is such a small movement, though, that most bicyclists learn it unconsciously and are never aware of doing it.) This steers the bike away from your body so that you're able to *lean* into a turn in the desired direction. A quick adjustment of the front wheel then completes entry into turning mode. Skateboarders employ a similar "counter-steering" technique when performing self-propulsive turns ("gyrating"), though I don't think it's absolutely necessary to counter-steer to make more basic turns -- you can just let your body fall towards your toes or your heels...
On 1/8/99 Scheckey wrote: "Does this really mean that if we can hold on long enough we can get past the wobbles?"
Um, no, I absolutely do *not* want to go on record saying that if you start wobbling just go faster and things will smooth out!! It may be the case that a given skateboard will be unstable at *all* speeds beyond a certain threshhold. Be careful out there. If you start wobbling at speed, I *believe* the standard advice is to crouch and try to grab the nose. (Race veterans, is this correct?) Grabbing the nose presumably lets your upper body absorb some of the vibrations and probably also changes the resonant frequency of the skateboard, since you're "connecting" your upper body to it. At the same time, René stated (1/9/99) that some street motorbikes are unstable at 120mph or so but regain stability if accelerated.
René also wrote "as far as skateboards I think that since you have no torque being generated by the wheels like a motor-powered vehicle that the geometry of trucks makes the most difference, (castor, camber) and so on."
I think that's true, but spinning skateboard wheels *do* generate some torque -- just a whole lot less than motorcycle wheels.
As for Scheckey's other questions...
€ I can't speak for Randal, though I doubt that he "tuned" his Speed Truck to wobble at an insanely high speed (say, 90mph) so that it would be stable at lower velocities.
€ I have no idea if spacecraft go through phases of oscillatory stability and instability as they accelerate, but it wouldn't surprise me.
€ Comparing this phase sequence to musical notes and octaves sounds like a very creative and helpful analogy to me.
€ I sure wouldn't know how to "tune" a board to wobble at slower speeds to increase its stability at higher speeds. Mathematical models to drive that sort of R&D would have to be extraordinarily sophisticated and would need to account for not just the board's parameters but also riding surface characteristics, the rider's body mass distribution, etc. Good luck!!
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Seismic Trucks
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On 1/9/1999 Glen
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I just got a hold of a set of these. They turn great on my very stiff and
solid longboard (3/4" vert. laminated oak/walnet/cherry with a fiberglass wrap).
You can individually adjust how the trucks respond when turning left or right.
I set mine stiffer at both heals and looser at the toes being that I'm 6'4" and 250+ when I lean back into a turn,
I can really torque the trucks. These are much smoother and more responsive than my Indy's, and actually return to center.
I'm going to mount these up on my G&S camberflex slalom board tonight, can't wait to see how they'll work on it.
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