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Strokers
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On 7/29/2000
Jonas
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While the subject is up,Herbn I must compliment your taste and handiwork.Using bearings instead of bushings was a nice addition.When I can afford them,I deffinately want a set.Now I have a question.Is my memory correct:I read in a old skatemag that alot of people were running strokers on just the front truck and a standard rear truck?Could someone elaborate more?My guess is that running them on the rear made the board to responsive.
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Strokers
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On 7/28/2000 Herbn
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Yeah i've tried this before,the set i made ride fantastic.Probabely harsher ,though more precise than the o.d. mine pivot on sealed bearings and steer with aircraft control links,i've been told the originals pivoted on urithane bushings like better car suspensions.Meeting someone from the NYC area,who owns Strokers for a little skate session would be amazing.
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Howell, Power Paw, Speed Spring board on ebay
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On 7/27/2000 Adam
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http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390545163
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strokers
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On 7/27/2000
Mike G
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anyone ever ride on these trucks? they look interesting. im wondering how they ride
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Pepsi/Firestone ramps
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On 7/18/2000
Garry Koop
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Just a quick note to let you know that a plexiglass no flat bottom half pipe still exists in Hood River,OR. It's now a part of a public skatepark, and we bought it from someone who was using it as a garage. We turned it into a steel framed vert ramp with 16ft of flat bottom, 24'wide, and is 11ft high with a foot of vert. Everyone who skates it has never skated a steel framed ramp and love it. I love telling about what I know about it's history.
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Vans ,Simon Woodstock pro model
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On 7/17/2000 Herbn
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We can still have fun watching absurd clown design shoes(among other things) come and go so fast heads are spinning, especially the ones that gave Simon the 100g, one year contract:) I'm fairly relaxed,doing my breathing exercises,maybe it just doesn't read like that;)
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Old stuff/new stuff
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On 7/16/2000 todcar
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Herbn, relax dude, nobody said they wanted to ride all of those defunct and poorly designed old decks, wheels and trucks...we we're just saying that it was fun watching them come in and out of existence - an ever changing market compared to today's shortboard market.
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Stroker trucks
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On 7/15/2000 Adam
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The Stroker/Valsurf board on ebay.com went for $500.
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Strokers
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On 7/14/2000 Herbn
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Check the top view of the board, that picture seems to confirm the off standard hole pattern, i thought they might have.It always looked like that in the ads,but they were all cartoon ads,drawn up(now that's nostalgia),and all the valsurf(and other shops too) ads were tiny little pictures so you didn't know for sure.The board to put them on would have to be custom or redrilled,i hate that, especially on something nice like a fiberflex.
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Strokers
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On 7/14/2000 Herbn
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oh jeez louise! ain't they purty,the board and wheels are probabely like 75 of what ever number of dollars that board goes up to. Makes me wonder what my beastys are worth and after this winter I'll probabely be willing to sell them (when my new set are done)I'm a little pissed because at that price i'll never get to ride a set,although i could buy them,put them on a different board (fiberflex v lam) try them out,then reassemble and put them right on Ebay again.My set are probabely better though.
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Stroker trucks
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On 7/14/2000 Neil G
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The auction has already hit $500!
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Herbn
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On 7/14/2000
namon
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Herb, I totaly know what you are talking about. To much love for equip[tment that they stoped making because better stuff came out.
just wanted to give my support...
namon
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Stroker Trucks
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On 7/13/2000 Adam
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Get out those checkbooks! I'll bet this ebay auction hits $400.
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Stroker Trucks
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On 7/13/2000 polyperc
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Hey Herbn,
Speaking of older technologies, you have to check out this eBay auction!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=381704628
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Vintage vs modern
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On 7/13/2000 Herbn
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Eerhem,scuse me!i think some people could use some lazer surgery to correct those foggy rose colored cornias ya'll look'n at the past with.Sure there were a few unique well crafted products way back,Decks like taperkicks, maherajaha,turner,kryptonic and sims experimentals(both of those boards went soft at the mounting bolts for me and i saw peeled up p-tex), i can't think of an old truck that would last an hour in the making of a modern skate video,did someone say they missed 3 inch wide wheels? oh sure you had what seemed like more choices but most of them sucked,todays equipment looks similar because they want it to work,if something in a design holds kids back they know instantly and its avoided ,still most companies offer some boards that are bigger and wider,I just got a ZERO board thats 33x8.75 for a larger older mid school skater.Spitfire makes wheels from 45 to 65mm, every half millimeter in the midsizes but only as soft as 92a boof'nwho,but we have Powell, Kryptonics and others to make it up. So from a 45mm Spitfires to Cherry Bombs or 90mm labeda,Aluminators,100mm rubber wheels ,has anyone seen the roadrider milleniums?78a transparent tire 100a inner tire/core with the graphics printed on it then a plastic/nylon type core inside of that!all in a 56mm street/slalomable wheel,though the shape is a little round for ultimate slalom,there are very good reasons why no one is making small three inch wide wheels.
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Skateboarder Mag
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On 7/12/2000 todcar
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You nailed it Neil. I used to wait with baited breath for days on end for my issue to show up and liven up a cold winter Michigan day. I would then sit and stare and wish for hours that I could some day come to Cali and ride the parks and hills all year long.
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Foam fiberglass or old slalom board
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On 7/12/2000
Matt
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Looking for an old slalom board or foam fibreglass board. Let me know if you can help.
Thanks!
-Matt
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Old Mags
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On 7/12/2000
Hamm
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Aaaahhh yes, the Val-Surf ads in the old mags.
I can remember spending way too much staring at those ads.
Time that,looking back should have been spent in skateparks
but as a pre-teen with no ride-what to do. I can remember telling myself I can't can't wait till I'm old enuff to move to California so I can skate all these great parks.
Well, here I am, the old parks are gone but the new ones are pretty fun!!!! 34yrs old and living the surf/skate life I dreamed as a kid!!!!
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Pepsi ramp and plex ramps
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On 7/12/2000 Glen
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The wearabouts of all the old ramps seems to be a mystery. I did get to ride many of the old plexiglass ramps and they are better off where they are, rather being in service. All of these ramps were real slow, the plex sucked up a lot of your speed. The Pepsi ramp was only 8' wide, which made it kind of hard to do much on. Pomona Pipe and Pool skatepark had a wider one that was more like the Tracker ramp but it was slow to. At Marina Del Rey they had the Turningpoint ramp for a while and it was kind of interesting but there were only a small handfull of guys like Kent and Scott Senatore that really had it wired. The Boogie Bowl skatepark in Tujunga Ca. had a real lame one, it was 8' wide ramp that never made it to vert, maybe 60 degrees at the top, they then added 4' extensions to the top, but they were at a slighter angle, maybe 45 degrees instead of steeper. It was bright orange and totally lame. I even went to the futuristic traveling skate show, Skateboard Mania(still have a sticker from it), that featured the loop of death. It was a goofy future/space show that featured some great skaters dressed in outfits that looked like something out of a 50's sci-fi. They had tons of these ramps lined with lights and lazers and stuff. They had everything from a capsule bowl, to a sphere, to a loop-the-loop, it was out there.
All of the ramps were pre-flat bottom designs, and the plex was soft and slow. Unfortunatly they never really worked very well which is why when the skateparks of the 70's died,the Firestone plexiglass ramps died too.
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Old gear
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On 7/12/2000 Neil G
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Oh, and The Mag. That was the binding between skaters. Back in the day when skaters were small pockets here and there except for California, everyone waited for the next issue of Skateboarder. I used to buy 2 copies, one to cut up for postering my wall and the other to read. I remember spending hours pondering the Val Surf mail order ads, longing for equipment which was flat unavailable where I lived or even AFAIK in Canada.
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old gear
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On 7/12/2000
hugh r
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It is all this and more...
The old-school gear takes me back to the simple days of my youth. In the pre-pc days all a guy needed was a bike and a board. The pages of skateboarder were filled with mystical images of amazing things.
In those days we had to buy our own equipment, so we took care of it. The riding styles were a stark contrast from todays. If we broke a deck, we didn't ride. So in my neighborhood, we didn't break too many decks. If only I had known how many of those old boards I would miss, I would have taken great care to keep track of them... my loss... oh well...
These old boards put me in touch with my past. They remind me of where I started. I guess it is the same reason why I still like the cars from the 60's and 70's. Sure, some of the equipment today is nice... but most of it is not magical. Not like it was 20+ years ago... HR
(I think that the Pepsi ramp was actually made of plexiglass)
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New School vs. Old
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On 7/11/2000 Adam
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10-4 on that, Pre-School. If it wasn't for Seismic trucks and the handful of craftsmen producing vlam composite decks, life would sure be boring until winter!
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New School vs. Old
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On 7/11/2000 Pre-School Rider
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Today's "standard" boards are like eating Micky-D burgers,not at all like the full-on buffet of equipment that was once offered to skaters.Sign me as another apathetic consumer of cloned goods...
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pepsi rad ramp
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On 7/11/2000
brian
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what has become of this thing of beauty? i'm looking at pictures in the concrete wave and wishing i'd been born 10 or 15 years earlier so i could ride that fiberglass (?) perfetion. anyway, is pepsi still in possesion of it? was it sold or thrown out? just wondering...
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nostalgia
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On 7/11/2000 todcar
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is largely all it is - plus variety - it seems that 99% of today's new school decks are the exact same popsicle shape, the trucks are all very similar and the only difference in wheels is 2-3 pts durometer 2-5 mm size - basically a pretty boring market when it comes to innovation. Whereas the evolution of equipment in the 70's included:
trucks- bennetts, trackers, speed springs, strokers - very narrow to very wide.
Wheels - 3" wide sims wheels, 78 durometer 70mm kryptos, two compound wheels (yo-yos), wheels with aluminum hubs, wide variety of lip shapes (road rider vs. OJs vs coping riders)
decks- aluminum, wood, wood n glass, foam n glass, compressed fiberglass, toft 8 wheelers, 44" longboards, slalom shapes, freestyle, bowlriders...
So as you can see, the market was more interesting back then. Magazines ads actually featured unique and new products back then, not just 100 shoe ads or the latest "aggro" graphics on the exact same deck you already have.
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