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On 1/12/2001
Hamm
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Jody @ Dregs informed me when I asked Dregs that the 'Pro-tec' full-face helmets worn by Dregs in the Gravity Games were actual motorcycle helmets with material cut away for visability and a custom shield added.
Dave
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Helmets
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On 1/11/2001
Chris Chaput
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Craig, I don't have any ideas about the downsized helmets that Dane and others are using but I did write a post on aero helmets.
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Helmet
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On 1/11/2001 Craig
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Thanks for the tip JON, I'll test it out at the DHX!
Does anyone have any meaningful thoughts on my posts about helmets in the safety equipment forum.
Craig
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DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME FOLKS
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On 1/11/2001 JON
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that it only works with a paisley pattern robe, for christs sake dont use anything else, who knows what would happen?
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SPEED ROBE
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On 1/11/2001
JON
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I first came across the speed robe technique whilst travelling in a small, as yet undiscovered country near Glasgow. The technique(although it is really more of a ritual) is as follows;
Begin depriving yourself of sleep about 7 days before the event. Go on stupidly long walks and take every opportinity to exhaust yourself completely stay awake by eating industrial pro plus and watching Italian horror movies. If you have worked hard, you will become a physical and mental wreck in about 5 days. Then, prepare "THE FEAST OF THE ROBE" which consists of ! kilo of mature cheddar cheese and a pint of strong black coffee with 4 crushed valium in it. Don the robe and retire to bed with your meal. Devour it as fast as you can. With a bit of luck you will dream so strongly of your victory that it will come true, even as you lie comatose on race day. If you are unlucky you will experience deeply disturbing nightmares from which you cant seem to awake.....You feel a great weight bearing down on your chest as sleep paralysis begins to set in.........you try to scream but no sound will come out........
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Tuck for Hamm
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On 1/10/2001
Danny Connor
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Hey Dave,
Cool pics! I wish I could have been there! From the pictures I saw, your tuck looked pretty good. I mean, I am not perfect by any means, but I can hold my own. The only thing I saw is your butt was kinda hanging out. Make it parralell with your board, and you will notice a huge difference. I try to always imagine how I look from the front, as well as the side. Imagine your body's silhouette, and imagine the way the air will flow over you. The smaller, the more ridged, and the more sraight you are, the better the air will flow over and around you. It's kinda hard to explain in words. For me, the most important things to remeber are, to keep your back straight, your butt up,and parallel to your board, your legs tight together, and your arms up and at your side. This all worked for me(and still does). I hope you find it usefull. Have fun! Later.
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refining the tuck
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On 1/10/2001
Hamm
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DT,Chris,Kludy, anybody...
I've been looking at Sundays photos on HughR's site to compare my tuck w/ DT's. Its clear that I have work to do. I am aware that as long as I am wearing a moto-cross helmet that I will have to lift my head for visability and that is not desireable. But what else can I do to refine my tuck? What should I look for when practicing in front of the mirror?
thanks
Dave
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Chasing Chaput
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On 1/10/2001
Hamm
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Chris, thanks for not cutting me out...........
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Airbraking at Barrett
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On 1/10/2001
Chris Chaput
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CheshirePus, I'm way behind in updating the SkateRelated.com website to reflect the upcoming race info. Scott Peer and Marcus Rietema can give you more info than I can right now.
One of the (few) advantages of the parallel stance speedboard is that you can use some pretty interesting gloves to hold out in front of you. A combination gauntlet style "slide glove/aero-glove/air-brake" can be accomplished by merely flipping them around from "airflow" to "airbrake". Check out Harry Egger's custom speedski gloves. Note the "alignment nub" and recessed hole:
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Airbrakes
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On 1/10/2001 Pre-School Rider
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I know I'm jumping into this a tad late..I used to race with some of the 'locals' from upstate N.Y.,and one guy used surfing Paddle Gloves for airbraking.Not too crashworthy,but quite effective at keeping his speed in trim while maintaining a clean "Hut Tuck",especially just before tight corners.
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Barrett
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On 1/10/2001
cheshirepus
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Hey Chris, I checked out the Barrett race information on your site, and though it says the race will be held on the 17th and 18th of February, closer observation shows you have stated the old race in October, as well. This wouldn't be a problem, except that I am curious as to whether or not the entry fees are also different. Thx for any input.
See you at the Bottom!
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Parallel-o-gram
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On 1/10/2001
Chris Chaput
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This is one of Hugh's pix. I couldn't cut out half of DT without cutting out Hamm so....
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monkey pics (his nose)
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On 1/10/2001
hugh r
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I have the pics that Hamm shot up on my page... a few that I shot too... HR
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monkey stance
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On 1/10/2001 DT
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yeah, just crop off my arm and leg ;) , by the way, where are the other two shots? they give more perspectives of the stance at speed, your hardly rolling in this one.
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robe?
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On 1/9/2001 meila
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what about the robe suit???????? tell us more.
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Parallel Stance
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On 1/9/2001
Chris Chaput
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Here is a picture that Hamm took at the dump road last Sunday. The maiden voyage proved to be a bit sketchy. There are several things that I can do to steady it up a bit. Use wider trucks, use trailing (negative) castor, Use firmer cylindrical cushions, use wedge pads to take out steering, increase the wheelbase and make the board narrower. If all of these things fail, it's time to move on to the next project.
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The new British Speedsuit
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On 1/9/2001 DT
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I was watching some of Sean's footage of the Oz x-games this year, and noticed Jon Warburton's high speed robe suit, it was pretty Siiicck!
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Air braking
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On 1/8/2001 Craig
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Of course I air break, but so far i have found that the air breaking I need to do, i can do fine without parachute type thingies. Like someone said, it makes a big difference. I just stick my hands out from behind my butt sometimes to cut off a little speed. If you can make so much difference without a parachute, then a parachute'll make a huge difference, the kind of difference i would prefer to do with my foot. The inefficient air breaking I was referring to was what i used to do before i could break with my foot. On the dhx road there is a pretty tight corner that you race the other riders to, but then you need to slow down. I would stand up quite far before the corner and flap my arms around in the air, I would slow down enough to take the turn, but in the mean time the other riders had held their tuck, then breaked with their foot at the last moment, and were already bombing it to the second hairpin, while i would come out the turn behind them and still need to airbrake again.
I was only noting my humble opinion on the parachute discussion, but i am a firm believer, as i mumbled on about in the trucks forum, in using whatever you like best. Later sk8er!
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Handbrakes
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On 1/8/2001 Herbn
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What about putting a hand down,slider gloved of course,tucked low,even more so when starting to lein into a turn. Seems like a safe real effective way to go into a sharp corner at questionable speeds."The question you should be askin your self right now is"I gotta post again,that if anybody in the NYC area wants to get together ,when the weather and streets clear, i'm game.
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AIRBRAKING
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On 1/6/2001
JON
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RE: Wearing air brakes on your hands. Biiker (god bless his soul) used one regular slide glove on the left and one about 5 inches across and 8 inches long on the right made from a cutting board at the Zurich race. The course was basically two straights bisected by a kind of wide hairpin right.
He did make good use of it and the difference was noticable as i found out almost too late theres an old saying .... horses for courses............YOU OLD NAG.......
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Special Effects
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On 1/6/2001
Chris Chaput
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No, this time I really mean "wing in ground effect".
Go to Google.com and enter "bernoulli coanda wing in ground effect" and check out some of the pages the search returns. You may also find this interesting:
"Engineers in Japan are developing trains that really do fly. Using the 'wing-in-ground' (WIG) effect, in which a high-pressure cushion of air forms underneath flying objects as they approach the ground, they believe they will be able to create trains that use only a quarter of the power required for magnetically levitated (maglev) trains."
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Effect: Bernoulli
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On 1/6/2001
Ben
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Is that what you were looking for? It's used by drive makers to keep the head close to the drive without actually touching.
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Air Braking
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On 1/6/2001
Chris Chaput
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Airbraking is extremely valuable in many situations. When you are drafting for example, spreading your arms out and/or standing up a little can prevent you from making contact with the rider in front of you without having to reposition your feet and drag a foot (which could also cause you to fall out of the draft). In training with others, it's often better after passing someone to airbrake a little so your partners can pass back many times on one run.
Footbraking on the other hand doesn't "give away" your need to change speed until the last second which can cause the guy behind you to respond too late and eat it while you make the turn (later dude).
It is almost impossible to foot brake without also airbraking to a certain extent and so sometimes a little airbraking is all you really need.
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For Craig
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On 1/6/2001
Danny Connor
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Hey Craig,
What do you do when all that is needed is a tiny bit of air-braking? Just wondering. In some situations, it's better to air-break and then resume tucking. Like with cars, tour racers down-shift before each turn, take it at the right gear, and then upshift to gain speed. This would be the same as hard foot braking. Rally racers drift through turns to keep some of the speed they have, but the actual friction of the tires on the ground slows them down too. This would be the same as air-braking. If you know how to do both of them right (which I'm sure you do), both styles can be very useful. The BEST thing for me to remeber (and I have found this out the hard way), is always brake BEFORE the turn, and then take it, never THROUGH the turn! Well, at least it has helped me. Later.
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Air Brake
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On 1/6/2001 Craig
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My friend Wayne, who I ride with, wears a denim jacket, and opens that up to air break. But i don't think it's an efficient racing sysytem, he uses it more to skate safely in traffic, because he's pretty new to the sport.
My friend Mike uses ice-cream tub lids glued to his gloves as sliding pads...talk about looking ridiculous...but i saw him using these to slow down the other day.
I personally think that air breaking is not that great for racing. I think it's better to bomb until the last moment, and then break with your foot. I've found in previous races that airbraking leaves you behind.
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