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On 5/4/2002 Duane
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Andy's right, he was ripping today on the Flashbacks. I rode buttboard for the first time today. bombed the hill standup a few times first, there's 45mph+ in the GSI new hampshire hill for all disciplines, 10% grade all the way. No problems with stand-up, although I'd prefer a frontside sweeper at the end rather than backside.
Then got goaded onto andy's buttboard. Advice to newbies: don't sit on a buttboard for the first time, with fresh Flashbacks, and head down a 45mph hill. Especially not with low-top Van's on, and slider gloves. First run terrible wobs, slid off the front at speed onto my ass. found a very loose wheel in the back, fixed it, figured that was the problem. It was, which allowed me to go real fast the next run, clean all the way, then hit the big crack at the bottom, wobs again and bucked off. Ran over my own right foot and ankle, which is elevated on a chair as I type. Which leaves only one choice:
Build one, and get good shoes and gloves by next week.
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On 5/3/2002
Andy Lally
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For the question about the fastest 70mm buttboard wheels,,There is nothing out there that will be faster than the Abec 11 70mm Flashbacks. Go for the 72 or 75a
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On 5/2/2002
steve flusche
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Hey there. Looking for input. What 70mm wheels are out there for buttboarding? I've looked at power paws and kryptos. What is everyone riding?
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On 5/1/2002 E.K.
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Took a peek at your site. Your board looks great! Those randalls makes the look. I use 215 Indys on my buttboard. Once I figure how to get some pics on the net, you can take a look at it. Peace.
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On 5/1/2002
william
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Hi everybody,
www.streetluging.net (or www.chez.com/dreamworld45) is updated with 2 riders + a giveaway.
I've just launched a monthly giveaway, this month you can win a Rocketluge Go Fast Sports tshirt, a hat, and energy drinks.
Go to the englidh version by clicking on the english flag.
See you
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On 4/30/2002
Andy
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Thanks guys. Some things to try in a big parking lot!
Andy
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On 4/30/2002 PSR
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HC,try these two things; First,bend Sideways at the waist,bringing your inside shoulder forward(keep it and your elbow OFF the tar!).This puts body mass well inside of the turn,and shifts a bit of weight forward as well. 2nd,with your big toes turned just a bit inwards,put your feet out for braking,BUT,put more pressure on the outside foot.When doing this,let your inside foot glide,and let that knee bend a bit more(Not Too much-not more than 60* from straight)but keep that foot hunting for the inside of the turn.Putting foot pressure on the outer foot seems wrong at first,kind of counter-intuitive,but it works pretty well as long as your foot is still more-or-less in front of the sled. As for pre-braking or hard braking for a corner,try a slight arch in the back(keep a hand on the sled!!)to increase pressure momentarily.Beware of unweighting the front wheels,as that can cause it's own set of problems. BTW,over on the 'luge' page,Chaput put up some nice photos of 'the pack' going through a sweeper.Look at the various brakng/body moves those riders use.That might help put my words in a better light..
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On 4/30/2002 hc
wrote in from
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maybe the other guys here can elaborate.
check the darren lott's book, first.
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On 4/30/2002 Andy wrote in from 206.210.xxx.xxx:
Hi,
Now that I have made my own purpose-built buttboard (my buddy wanted one), I have been really enjoying that aspect of the sport of skateboarding. So now we are trying to learn to turn better, as opposed to just bombing and high speed sweepers.
Can anyone give me some insight into the technique used to break and turn at the same time? I seem to want to break on the inside of the turn (with the inside leg that is), but this seems to make me go straight. I can't quite figure out how to keep the turn going while my feet are pushing off of the ground. I either give up on the breaking and try to make the turn outright, or end up trying to stop so I don't rail the curb I'm headed towards.
I'm sure some of you could get me up the learning curve a lot faster and safer than I could get there myself.
Thanks for the help!!
Andy
PS. Check out my board if you like. It is almost complete graphically butt rideable just the same.
http://communities.msn.com/AlienX2002/home.htm
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On 4/22/2002
David Fielden
wrote in from
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Here is some more information on the Oklahoma Talimena Scenic Byway Race on June 14th, 15th and 16th.
This is a great technical road, nicknamed "Crash Course" by the Oklahoma locals. This course is 1.13 miles long with an average grade of 11%, and a maximum grade of 16%. Racers will start at an elevation of 1,971 feet, dropping 564 feet to 1,407 feet at the finish. There is an up-hill breaking area after the finish. The course has several very steep sections gaining speeds in the mid to upper 60's (mph) with a knarly chicane and a series of sharp turns you have to break for.
This course is also registered on www.gravityDB.com
This is the link to the MSN TerraServer Topographical image of the course
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.asp?S=12&T=2&X=434&Y=4803&Z=15&W=2
This is the link to the MSN TerraServer Aerial Photograph of the course
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.asp?S=12&T=1&X=434&Y=4803&Z=15&W=2
To the left you can see the Winding Stair "primitive" camping area with solar heated showers, And to the right you can see the intersection with Hwy 259 leading to Poteau, Ok. The staging area and starting line will be near the Winding Stair campgrounds.
All racers flying in from out of state should fly to Fort Smith Arkansas Regional Airport. It is a 44 min. drive from the airport to Poteau. Or you can make the 3 hour drive from Tulsa, Oklahoma City or Dallas Texas.
If you are camping, but want electric hookups and electrically heated water in the showers, you should drive to Cedar Lake Campgrounds, about 5-7 miles away from the course.
Check out the link below
http://www.fs.fed.us/oonf/oklahoma/horse/cleqcg.html
or you can reserve a campsite at
http://www.reserveusa.com/nrrs/ok/ced3/ (get a site near the equestrian camp, they are nice)
Or check Dave Auld's site for more info on the race and info on Poteau Hotels (Poteau is about a 30 min. drive from the Hwy 259 intersection)
http://www.auldovertheroad.com/lugeevents/lugeevent2002_talimina.htm
The Riders Party is going to be awesome! A true Oklahoma experience for those who have never been to this great state.
For more info or questions contact Rusty Riley
or e-mail me at David_fki@hotmail.com
Hope to see y'all there
David Fielden
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On 4/8/2002 E.K.
wrote in from
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Opps!... sorry hit the wrong button.
Anyways... I have been trying to figure out what makes dirtluging worth my time. I have been searching out the best combo to get this side of buttboarding the respect it "may" deserve... I have been pretty bummed out after putting some cash for dirt wheels and heavy-duty trucks (all from mountainboardz.com, thank you)and installing them on my buttboard. This all started when I read the chapter on "Dirtluging" from my copy of the Survival Luge Manual. Could not find a desent place to ride until this past weekend and all disillusions diappeared. I found a place where you dirtboarders would crap your pants! When I saw this place I thought I was dreaming. It's an golf course that was closed down (owners went bankrupted) and it sits today. Though the greens are now brown, the hills are smooth. And talk about paved paths! Miles and miles of golf cart asphalt paths to bomd on! The 12th tee-off is righteous. The grade has to be at least 12%! And a path comes right down it too! Talk about giving a choice, pick your poison: street or grass/dirt or both? Oh, by pure iggnorance I found out that going from grass to a paved way jumps you into hyperspeed. Scared the spit out of me! With a "oh, s#@!" I lean back on the grass and slowed abit and ended up into a jump (survived... lucky dumb-s#@!) catching air. Well I bet all who reads this call bull-s#@! so hopefully I wiil be dropping some pics in later to prove my thrill. Thanks Darren Lott for the chapter on dirt luging in his book. Almost dropped the idea but I guess I had to prove you wrong and came up with another side to buttboarding. Laters.
ek
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On 4/8/2002
E.K.
wrote in from
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Here's some fun stuff I experienced this past weekend.
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On 4/1/2002
Steve Pearl
wrote in from
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E.K.
Sorry you did not get a response to the Dinosaur Point location.
It is located in California approximately 24 miles east of Gilroy which is about 75 miles south of San Francisco. We'll send you a package of info.
Steve
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On 4/1/2002
Steve Pearl
wrote in from
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Combined results of bbs and email surveys to "Is There Interest in Time Trail Event(s) @ Dinosaur Point?"
I wish to thank all who took the time to respond and for the valuable suggestions that were made.
The results listed below are a combination of "unique" responses from the bbs survey and the email survey to the question "Is there any interest in Time Trial Event(s) at Dinosaur Point?"
Total unique responses 36
yes.........29
no.......... 2
maybe....... 1
other....... 4
total 36
Even though over 80% of respondents wish this type of event(s), the number does not justify a commitment on Wild Fro Racing LLC part to put on this type of program without further consideration.
Thank you again.
Steve Pearl
Wild Fro Racing LLC
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On 3/29/2002
hc
wrote in from
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1 hr south of san jose.
www.wildfro.com
a fairly straight fast run.
speaking of time trial, i believe every race starts out with a time trial for quailifying.
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On 3/28/2002
E.K.
wrote in from
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I didn't get an answer as to where's Dinosaur Point? I'm the buttboarder from Utah and I would like to get involved, either racing or spectator. I still would like to see a time-trials format within our sport. The weather here in Utah is getting righteous and I have started scouting out for more places to ride. Lots of hills around residential areas but not "safe" to risk riding.
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On 3/28/2002
Steve Pearl
wrote in from
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3/31/02 is Easter Sunday...No Riding/Training @ Dinosaur Point.
I have to apologize for scheduling Easter Sunday 3/31/02 at Dinosaur Point.
There will be no riding or training @ Dinosaur Point on Easter Sunday.
Again, sorry for the scheduling error.
Steve
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On 3/27/2002
Chloe Beckett
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I would just like to say Stuart Bradburn is my 2nd cousin and ive only just found out about all this buttboarding and that he was into it.
chloe
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On 3/27/2002
Steve Pearl
wrote in from
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Results of "Interest in Time Trials @ Dinosaur Point"
First thanks to all of you that responded.
We received 10 "yes", and one "maybe". there were no "no" responses.
The number of replys, even though overwellingly "yes" is not a strong enough response to allow us to commit to "Time Trial" event(s) at Dinosaur Point.
In the near future we will "test the waters" again.
Thank you for your replys and comments.
Steve
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On 3/25/2002
Miko
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Hey Mario... If you use 8mm thin machine nuts on your 8mm axles, they're going to look nearly identical anyway. I'm pretty sure they DON'T measure them... (shhh... mum's the word!) Just show them standard bearings and Randall hardware and go skate!
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On 3/25/2002 Mario
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Thanks Dave. For those that don't want to wade through the message board, it looks like the event will be postponed until May 3-5. Though I would keep your ear to the ground (or the message boards Dave mentioned in the prev post) as it looks like IGSA isn't very stable.
Damn, and I just got my brand new one-piece leathers three days ago!
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On 3/25/2002 Dave
wrote in from
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Mario,
Read the post by Marcus on streetluge.net or streetluge.com
Dave
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On 3/25/2002
Mario
wrote in from
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The Barrett race on April 5-7th. If it was cancelled I haven't heard about that yet.
As for the legality of the trucks, scroll down and you'll see that some other people have said it is illegal to mix and match. If it's not an issue until I start winning, then it's not an issue, yet. But soon, very, very soon...
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On 3/25/2002
Dave
wrote in from
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Mario,
The IGSA rules have never stated that mixing baseplates and hangars from different trucks is illegal. "They" have never stated that putting custom axels in your trucks was illegal. "They" will not care unless you win a bunch of races on that board.
What Barret Race?
The one that was recently cancelled/postponed?
Dave
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On 3/25/2002 Mario
wrote in from
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Silly rules! I hadn't realized putting R2 hangars on 35 degree baseplates was illegal. That's exactly the setup I run on my buttboard. What s#@!e is that? Next I'll be hearing that you can't replace the bushings! Or replace the kingpin! I had a skate shop (Skatewerks, NJ) replace my R2 axles with chrome-moly. I emailed IGSA (Bob Ozman) to ask them if this was legal and never got a reply. If that's illegal I won't be going to Barrett. At $150 entry fee, I really can't afford to replace my trucks with a new set or R2s.
If someone knows about the legality of switching axles, please speak up. (No they aren't any wider, yes, they use the same damn bearings.)
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On 3/25/2002
Paul K
wrote in from
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Hi all,
I'm not a regular poster on the Buttboard/Luge forums, i just though you might check
www.doctordanger.com
Although this should be in "crashing" its probably more relevant here
There is a tale of buttboarder mashing both ankles in a crash.
Read and enjoy/wince ( whichever is relevant )
Paul K
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