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Xtreme SS
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On 12/4/2000
Ben
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I have a set just laying around - I think they're too slow for kicking across flats.
I did notice that they come with ABEC 5s from Xtreme. If it were significant downhill, yes, but I think they're too slow for all-arounding.
What I want is sustained glide. Not accelleration, but sustain with grip.
Xtreme SS slicks are my favorite rain wheel, but at 75A with a rounded contact patch I think they're too slow.
I don't know that the Powerboard wheels are going to be fast (lot of urethane, fat "tire") but I'm curious.
Also, are there bearings I can't wreck in the rain?
I think the reason the Turbo is so fast is that it has the thinnest "tire".
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BIG sticky wheels
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On 12/4/2000
roger
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Ben,
If you are looking for big sticky wheels why not get the XTreme S/S?
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Powerboard wheels
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On 12/4/2000
Ben
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These are available individually from Powerboard dealers for $22.00 apiece (front wheels).
The back wheels with the ring gear cost more, but you wouldn't want them on a non-motorized skateboard anyway. They're available in day-glo orange, purple, red and black.
They take the larger bearing. What is this bearing? R8 or something? I'm guessing a 3/8ths axle (like 15" Gullwing trucks). Can't one use adapters to fit these wheels to regular truck axles?
Otherwise stated, can I go there? M-80s on the Pumpkin are bliss, believe me, but I can get them to chatter and baby wants a new pair of shoes.
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76mm turbo spacers are 12mm
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On 12/4/2000
roger
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Exkate Turbos use larger than normal 12mm spacers. Be sure to get a set of these when you place your order! Otherwise they are very hard to find and using a 10mm with two speedwashers to make 12mm is a royal pita.
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76mm turbo spacers
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On 12/4/2000
burns
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i was wondering what size spacers fit exkate's 76mm turbos. i'm anxious to try them out.
burns
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M-80s
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On 12/4/2000 todcar
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I put some on my 60" deck and these things have unbelievable grip. I could barely slide them - took tons of effort. Pretty damn fast too but not that much faster than turbos or 76 mm Kryptos. If you want traction, these are your wheels.
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powerboard wheels
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On 12/3/2000 Rooney
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the xskate powerboard wheel hubs are much lrger plus run larger bearings and some have large ring gear molded as part of hub.
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Mystery wheels
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On 12/3/2000 Lindsay
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On the weekend I took the wheels off a mate's Apolloflex "banana board" and fitted them to my girlfriend's pintail. We were ripping with these, and I'm wondering if anyone here had heard of them...they were
1. bright green
2. harder than 78a
3. 3' wide, 68mm diameter, flat tread
4. had "Juice" written on them.
5. off-center hubs
Having such wide wheels on 215 indies gave majorly amplified carving and at one point I caught the wobs had to slide into a ditch on my bum
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Mystery Wheels
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On 12/3/2000
Chris Chaput
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Meila, whats the hub look like? Does it have the same "spoke-like" hub? Are the wheels red? The only thing that I can think of is the hub that is used on the Powerboard (electric) and I'm not sure if the hub is any different. Those wheels are HUGE and imagine the hubs are too.
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Andy
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On 12/3/2000 DT
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Andy check out the Gravity Super G 73mm 80a (black) its a really good all around wheel, very fast too. You can buy them online at www.solidskate.com.
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just need a little help!
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On 12/2/2000
andy
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hi all, i recently got a sector 9 phenix deck, its long but also ollyable (a kinda hybrid) so im kinda stuck as to what wheels i should get, at the moment i have some old worn down santa cruz 94a on it.
i mainly use it for cruising/transport/downhill, but it also gets jumped about a bit.... any recomendations???
im looking forsomething about 70mm..
thanks
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chris's cherries
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On 12/2/2000 meila
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chris.... i'm certain the cherry and the turbo run the same hubs..... it's this other wheel i'm looking at (maybe an m-80?) that is slightly wider than the cherry bomb, same diameter but the hub is BIGGER. this is my query? you say the cherries and the m-80's run the same hub. then what the hell are these with the big hubs?????? sure like to know. i like 'em lots and will probably be in the market for more if i knew what they were for SURE.
later
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eXkate wheels
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On 12/1/2000
Chris Chaput
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Meila, I'm not sure what you are looking at or how you are measuring. eXkate outsources its hubs to a plastics manufacturer and I believe they have only two different hubs that look alike, the smaller one for their 65mm Hurricanes and the larger one for the Turbos, Cherry Bombs and M-80's. The larger hub is 2" in diameter measured on the outside face of the wheel. Here is a picture of a Turbo and Cherry Bomb being measured: http://www.chrischaput.com/wheels/exkate.jpg
If you don't believe me, call eXkate at (562) 634-8492 and ask for Charles, Larry, Sandy, Jason or Louie. Ask them if they use the same hub for all three. I don't make this stuff up. I go to their factory and poke around and ask alot of questions and beg and wheel and deal and think about how cool it would be to have all of the toys that Louie puts together. Besides the electric skateboards for which the torsion trucks were designed, you could see the electric luge, the electric go-karts and the electric dragster and the HUGE luge that was made for Shaquille O'Neal.
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cherry bomb / m80
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On 12/1/2000 meila
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what's up with this cherry bomb / m80 same hub stuff? i'm sitting here with a set of calipers and two excate wheels that look very similar.... they are both the same outside diameter and the one that is essentially skinnier has a smaller hub / taller tire. what's up????? chris keeps saying they all run the same hub but i'm sitting here with two side by side and they are NOT the same hub....
can anyone clear this up for me???? i was fortunate enough to come across these two sets of wheels but i'm not completely sure what they are. they are both excate and they're approx 82mm tall.
help
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blade wheels
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On 11/30/2000
hugh r
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In anticipation of receiving a kwiksplit set up in a few days, I purchased a couple of sets of 80mm roller hockey wheels. Thankfully the local rink has a two-dollar bin, so the outlay was slim.
I picked up some Labeda's in 77a, and some Sensor's in 73a.
I "conditioned" them down to 75mm increasing the contact patch to a skinny half inch.
To do this I sacrificed a coulple of bearings (filled them with shoe go so they won't spin. Mounted them in the wheel... secured them with a carriage bolt and placed them into a viced drill motor.
Using a sanding block and various grit sand paper, I was able to shape them to the desired size. (this technique would also work on coned skateboard wheels)
Pics and procedures on my site... HR
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M-80's
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On 11/30/2000
Chris Chaput
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The extra 1/4" of urethane extends beyond the outside edge of the hub providing a larger contact patch, a more flexible outer edge and more traction. Remember though, the outside edge of these wheels are both beveled and radiused putting the contact patch (the area of wheel that actually contacts the ground) about 5/16" in from the outer edge. This means that the contact patch is entirely within, and supported by, the hub.
Streetlugers love them as do lovers of "supersized" equipment. When you first see them for the first time there's a kind of Dolly Parton effect, "oh my god, look at the size of those things" ;-)
Let's review. The 76mm Turbo, the 82mm Cherry Bomb and the 82mm M-80 all use identical hubs. The Cherry Bomb is a tall Turbo and the M-80 is a wide Cherry Bomb. Red and Black are my favorite colors, only the dye is different. Class dismissed.
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M80
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On 11/30/2000 Herbn
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I ordered them,but forgot to ask,how are they widened?,does the urithane just stick out,un supported from the core,does it wrap around the "rim" of the core,all on the outside or even?
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BareBack Dominator
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On 11/30/2000
stonelove
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Did anyone ever try the BareBack Dominator with dirtwheelz and ride it down on the grass?
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Exkate wheels: M-80, Cherry Bomb, Turbo
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On 11/29/2000
Cap'n Misinfo (Ben)
wrote in from
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Let's change that post of mine to read "we now *feel like* we know that Cherry Bombs have a smaller Turbo-derived core."
...which is the same one in all of the Exkate wheels as far as I can tell and which Chris already said.
Which is contrary to...
M-80 vs
Cherry Bomb On 11/11/00 DT wrote in from 24.4.xxx.xxx:
I went riding at GMR today with Bob Pererya and Sean Mallard. Sean
designed the Cherry Bomb and Bob the M-80. Both are good wheels, but differ slightly.
The Cherry Bomb shares the Turbo hub and is 82mm, while the M-80 has a larger hub and
is wider to make up for the lack of urethane.
But if you compare them, sure 'nough they're all 2" by 2" cores: Turbo and M-80 and CB. Turbos are by far the best deal, hands down.
I still like freakish-large gear like the jumbo-camber Pumpkin and the "urethane-LARGE" M-80s, and everyone so far who rides my little fleet likes the M-80s and the Pumpkin far and away the best. It's not about mass-market appeal or price points for me; it's all a steal compared to any other board sport. And I just want to see the evolution continue.
Thanks to Kaylee "The Man" Tejeda I now have two sets of Exkate spacers for those kickin' Turbos again - what a brother!!
I remember the glow-green Turbos best as midnight "Shortboard Interceptors". And I do appreciate all the perspectives offered.
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Rock kick'n
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On 11/29/2000 Herbn
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I've kicked rocks big enough to chip my truck,not a major chip,but not just a scratch.This was at night,the wheels had little to do with it.They were aluminators,red.
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big ones
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On 11/29/2000
hugh r
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While it is true that the turbos do out accelerate the cherry bombs... the biggest benifit of the cherrys (to me anyways) is their ability to "kick out" rocks.
One guy the other day at the dump said something about kicking out a squirrel with his! (Or was it running over a squirrel... or maybe that some guy who didn't even show up was a squirrel!) HR
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exkate
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On 11/29/2000 meila
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r u sure they all run the same hubs??????.......
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eXkate wheels
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On 11/28/2000
Chris Chaput
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The M-80, Cherry Bomb and Turbo use identical hubs. The "spoked" part of the hub is put face down in the mold and if it isn't forced down making a perfect "water tight" contact with the bottom, a thin layer of urethane can partially cover the outside of the hub. This is the "molding ring" and you can sand it off. The other side of the hub at the top of the mold has the excess urethane cut off on a speed lathe.
I've been using the red and black wheels whose formula's only difference is the color and amount of powdered dye that is added. The Turbo has become my preferred "all around" wheel because it is quick as well as fast. The Cherry Bomb is fast and is still my choice for faster, longer hills where ultimate rolling speed and fewer RPM's count more than quickness. The M-80 is a Cherry Bomb with 1/4" added to the outside. I've limited its use to streetluge, and only when more traction is necessary. Otherwise it's too much like a steamroller and tends to run into every little rock and pebble and they can take a long time to get rolling again on a skateboard after slowing.
The price point on the Turbos is hard to resist. I highly recommend them for those who "aren't sure" and don't want to spend any more money than they have to.
If Bob Ozman and/or any Power Paw guys are listening, I'd love to try/test/sell/market/endorse/promote your products but I'd need at least a price list and available stock to get started, hint, HINT.
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why
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On 11/28/2000
Hamm
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Ben, take one look at your world famous Pumpkin. While you may think its the cat's meow, its too radical for general consumption. Same with the wheels you are suggesting. Your asking wheel manufacturers to make an expensive wheel that no one will buy. In fact, I've noticed a trend of downhillers moving away from Cherry's and back toward 76mm Turbos and Kryptos. Take a look at 95% of the decks on the market, you could'nt use the wheels you are suggesting with these decks because you'd get wheel bite like a mutha......
Dave
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M80s
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On 11/28/2000 Herbn
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Then again,i just ordered my set, and i know Chris c.is partial to Cherrys.I gotta get a set of those bigger aluminators also.
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